College Athlete Compensation

[RoboticDreams]

Why do you have to pay them all? America is a capitalist fucking society? Why should college pay be different?

It's also a PC country or haven't you taken that into account? If the NCAA starts paying football players, you think other student athletes won't start campaigning for pay as well?

 

[jonvi]

NCAA College athletes deserve to be paid - ESPN

This article has it exactly right.

And you have still yet to answer the question I've asked you twice now. So we will try a 3rd time. These scholarships come up way short of what these kids actually need. What are yet suppose to do to get the money they need? They can't get jobs. What if mommy and daddy can't give them the money? I'd love for your job to start paying you in "training" for a job that has nothing to do with what you do now and see how much you fucking liked it.

The only reason you're pissed is because the school is making so much money..IYO. Not all schools are making money from sports.

For students on scholarship, money is not required. Their rooms are part of the deal. Food is free. Like in the Army....nothing else is required.

When everyone else at school is paid for their research and work they perform in the schools name, I'll then consider paying a kid to go out and play.

These athletes should do the same thing that every smart student athlete did in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s.

Study.

 

[RobToxin]

Why do you have to pay them all? America is a capitalist fucking society? Why should college pay be different?

Because of this thing called Title IX.

 

[Tubbs1518]

Ok and Title IX is horseshit too.

And it's obvious you didn't read the article if you think nothing is required besides what te scholarship offers. It's also obvious you've never been on scholarship.

 

[RoboticDreams]

Ok and Title IX is horseshit too.

And it's obvious you didn't read the article if you think nothing is required besides what te scholarship offers. It's also obvious you've never been on scholarship.

Free education, room and board and food. All these kids' parents or possibly them have to do is pay for clothes and a little pocket change to go to a movie once in awhile. What a horrible life they must have.

 

[Tubbs1518]

A couple of you I'm not going to both to respond to because its obvious you have no idea of some of the rules and some of the facts out there. If anyone wants to have an actual debate about it I'm more than happy to give my thoughts and have a debate.

 

[Ironbreaker]

Ok and Title IX is horseshit too.

And it's obvious you didn't read the article if you think nothing is required besides what te scholarship offers. It's also obvious you've never been on scholarship.

I've never been on scholarship. However as I remember it, the kids on scholarship were the envy of everyone else.

Acting like being on scholarship is some kind of obstacle to overcome.


Fucking priceless.

 

[Tubbs1518]

It's obvious you didn't read the article about how short they come up. Shocker.

 

[Tubbs1518]

The way I know it from being on scholarship is grants and financial aid most of the time are 100x better and don't have to be paid back either.

 

[RoboticDreams]

Why do you have to pay them all? America is a capitalist fucking society? Why should college pay be different?

I read the article. So then they should be given a "full ride" and not have to pay those ancillary costs. They don't deserve more than that.

 

[jonvi]

The way I know it from being on scholarship is grants and financial aid most of the time are 100x better and don't have to be paid back either.

Grants...yes. If you received a grant, you have a proven record on your ability to study and be a positive influence on that studies future.

Financial aid better? Really. Leaving school with tens of thousands in debt is better.

 

[RobToxin]

I agree that Title IX is horse shit.

But, it's the law.

 

[Cobrabit]

You kept asking where would they would get the extra money that the scholarship doesn't cover if they can't get a job ore have parents to pay....

Do what every other student does: apply for student loans or for academic scholarships/grants.

 

[TonyTheGator]

It's obvious you didn't read the article about how short they come up. Shocker.

I read it. So, they come up a bit short on some expenses. Here's an idea. If they don't like it, don't accept the scholarship. But, don't agree to it and cry about it later. You keep comparing this to peoples' jobs. What happens in the real world when a man agrees to work for a certain amount of money, then cries about it a week later?

 

[FSUmanager]

Hey Tubbs.

Wilbon shoots down his own idea in these two paragraphs.

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Don't get me wrong, paying players out of individual athletic department budgets is beyond impractical; it's probably not feasible. Because so many athletic departments run at a deficit, it's difficult to make the case that schools should pay regular salaries to athletes, even football players who produce more income than anybody. But it's another thing entirely for the students who play for revenue-producing teams (at UConn and the University of Tennessee, this would include the women's basketball teams) to be somehow compensated from the lucrative television/radio/Internet rights fees they make wholly possible.
It's commendable that the NCAA has paid millions into a fund for in-need athletes to cover clothing purchases, emergency travel and medical expenses. There's also a special assistance fund and a student-athlete opportunity fund. Why can't hundreds of millions of dollars be directed into those, and in turn make money much more accessible to athletes for the kinds of regular day-to-day expenses regular college students pay by working jobs that are off-limits to intercollegiate athletes?"

Maybe you should be reading the links you provide?

The one thing that you nor Wilbon have brought up is the FACT that student athletes on scholarships can still receive FEDERAL AID MONEY from grants and loans. Just like every other student in college. That can be used to cover the miniscule gap of 3k per year for items that are NOT necessary to finish school. Like spending money. Most schools cannot pay even their best athletes because they run at a deficit every year.

The NCAA Board approved a 2k stipend per year for every student athlete, but 161 colleges overturned it by vote. Here is a link for that.

NCAA official: 'continuing opposition' to $2,000 stipend - CBSSports.com

You cannot turn the NCAA football or basketball into Triple A baseball farm teams BECAUSE the majority of universities in Div 1 CANNOT COMPETE with teams like Bama, ND, USC, UF, OSU, UM, and all of those huge schools who have funds galore. Please do not fool yourself either. Every star player on every team is getting the 100 dollar handshake multiple times per year.

I have one last question. Do you have a link or anything to back up your assertion that student athletes fall in the red by 3K per year?

One last thing I forgot. IN the article you posted it does not give an amount. It is an Opinion piece by a journalist who says he feels the best athletes should be paid. Quite different than what you are stating it says.

 

[Ironbreaker]

I read it. So, they come up a bit short on some expenses. Here's an idea. If they don't like it, don't accept the scholarship. But, don't agree to it and cry about it later. You keep comparing this to peoples' jobs. What happens in the real world when a man agrees to work for a certain amount of money, then cries about it a week later?

Agreed. People don't like it and they grumble after the fact.

‘I am not being unfair to you, friend. Didn’t you agree to work for a denarius?

Yeshua on honoring your commitment without sniveling.

 

[RoboticDreams]

Agreed. People don't like it and they grumble after the fact.



Yeshua on honoring your commitment without sniveling.

English is preferred.

 

[Ironbreaker]

English is preferred.

Get over it.

 

[Tubbs1518]

I read what Wilbon said and I didn't say the money should be federal. It should come out of the 11.3 billion the NCAA is set to make off the BCS and March Madness. As he said. Take 1.3 billion off the top and use it for this.

 

[RoboticDreams]

Agreed. People don't like it and they grumble after the fact.



Yeshua on honoring your commitment without sniveling.

Get over it.

Shalom?