cleveland is no longer considered the indians

[gob]

Why? What’s the point? Other than to make all their fans buy new merchandise?

They've been moving away from it for years. Hence the "C" hats they have been using.

 

[SJ76]

Cleveland Clitoriseses sounds about right

 

[Wamu]

I have no problem with the name change. Just one question though. Why does Cleveland have to change their name but the K.C. Chiefs, Chicago Blackhawks and Atlanta Braves don't? The only team that gets a pass is Florida State. From what I remember they have the okay from the Seminole Tribe in Florida.

 

[BrownEyedGirl]

I have no problem with the name change. Just one question though. Why does Cleveland have to change their name but the K.C. Chiefs, Chicago Blackhawks and Atlanta Braves don't? The only team that gets a pass is Florida State. From what I remember they have the okay from the Seminole Tribe in Florida.

I don't think that they had to change it they just decided to do it on their own as a private organization. I will say now that they are doing it I could see other teams from high school to college to pro across the country doing it too. If a pro team with a century of using the name can change it then other teams may see that as a good justification.

 

[Wamu]

I don't think that they had to change it they just decided to do it on their own as a private organization. I will say now that they are doing it I could see other teams from high school to college to pro across the country doing it too. If a pro team with a century of using the name can change it then other teams may see that as a good justification.

Good point. I don't think it was a forced change now that you mention it. They were called the Spiders from 1887 to 1899. Looking up their year by year team history had no idea they were called the Naps from 1903 to 1914. Please don't use that name. I wouldn't be able to root for them anymore.

 

[gob]

Good point. I don't think it was a forced change now that you mention it. They were called the Spiders from 1887 to 1899. Looking up their year by year team history had no idea they were called the Naps from 1903 to 1914. Please don't use that name. I wouldn't be able to root for them anymore.

Who doesn't like naps?


Commie

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

I agree, And Drew Carey as the mascot.

That image might be just as offensive as Chief Wahoo

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

The Flaming Rivers

 

[nynasty]

Will be funny when they get a new name, but all the sportswriters still refer to them as "The Tribe"

 

[Hang_On_Sloopy08]

The word "Indian" is not a name that indigenous people gave to themselves but was a term labeled to them and reinforced by what would be oppressive and/or racist governments. It just reinforces and continues a label from a bad part of our history. Partner in the chants and the caricatures and it becomes pretty bad. I will say that if a local tribe unique to that area were to work with Cleveland (or any team really) to create a nickname, logo, and general atmosphere that is respectful and beneficial to that tribe's reputation and heritage then I think that would be pretty cool.

Why are you referring to them as indigenous people? I think that’s oppressive as well, they didn’t label themselves that term either. The label indigenous has inferior connotations to primal beings.

Was it racist when “indigenous people” carried out their own manifest destiny to slaughter other tribal nations or just when it’s white settlers came along? Funny how in all your wokeness you get to cherry pick history to virtual signal your moral agenda. The people here before us were far from peaceful and carried out crimes that would make our settlers blush.

 

[DefCONNOne]

Spiders

Contracted in 1899.

Try again

 

[DefCONNOne]

The word "Indian" is not a name that indigenous people gave to themselves but was a term labeled to them and reinforced by what would be oppressive and/or racist governments. It just reinforces and continues a label from a bad part of our history. Partner in the chants and the caricatures and it becomes pretty bad. I will say that if a local tribe unique to that area were to work with Cleveland (or any team really) to create a nickname, logo, and general atmosphere that is respectful and beneficial to that tribe's reputation and heritage then I think that would be pretty cool.

^^^

 

[DefCONNOne]

Good point. I don't think it was a forced change now that you mention it. They were called the Spiders from 1887 to 1899. Looking up their year by year team history had no idea they were called the Naps from 1903 to 1914. Please don't use that name. I wouldn't be able to root for them anymore.

No, they weren't. That team was contracted by the National League in 1899.

 

[The Derski]

The Charlie Sheens

 

[Mebert]

Contracted in 1899.

Try again

I am saying obtain right to the team, take the name, claim Cy Young was one of yours.

 

[Nasty_Magician]

It's gotta be the Tribe.

Or Steamers

 

[The Derski]

It's gotta be the Tribe.

Or Steamers

They said it’s not going to be the Tribe.

 

[Wamu]

No, they weren't. That team was contracted by the National League in 1899.

Really? Was going by what baseball-ref.com said. Just looked up Cleveland Spiders year by year record. Didn't look into the history of anything. Also didn't know they were called the Cleveland Blues from1887-88.

 

[The Q]

Call them the Cleveland pussies

for bowing to wokeness and cancel culture

 

[Hank Kingsley]

What about the KC Chiefs? Don't they have some sort of tomahawk chop thing too??