Brady admits to being a fraud

[sonnyblack65]

Read the article, he said so himself...

You do realize Belichick is only a .500 coach w/o Brady and only went to playoffs once in 7 seasons w/o Brady. Belichick prob would have been fired after going 5-11 and 0-2 before Brady took over for an injured Bledsoe. They missed the playoffs both years Brady didn't play and have been to 11 AFCG and 6 SB's with TB. Sure it's a team effort but it's more TB than BB for the success. And thios is from a fan from 1970 that remember the 1-15 and 2-14 seasons, doormats for the first 30 years. Belichick cost NE a chance for SB the year before, making bad decisions that cost them HFA and then not kicking FG's with 6 min left on clock VS Denver in AFCG,

 

[Oldschool739]

You do realize Belichick is only a .500 coach w/o Brady and only went to playoffs once in 7 seasons w/o Brady. Belichick prob would have been fired after going 5-11 and 0-2 before Brady took over for an injured Bledsoe. They missed the playoffs both years Brady didn't play and have been to 11 AFCG and 6 SB's with TB. Sure it's a team effort but it's more TB than BB for the success. And thios is from a fan from 1970 that remember the 1-15 and 2-14 seasons, doormats for the first 30 years. Belichick cost NE a chance for SB the year before, making bad decisions that cost them HFA and then not kicking FG's with 6 min left on clock VS Denver in AFCG,

I hear you sonny, but by the same token Brady would not be the success he's been with BB and his system....BB obviously perfected his system with Brady at QB, but should have made the playoffs with Cassell under center with an 11-5 season....Jimmy 3 of 4 out of the gate....
BB just needed time to get everything in place and once he did, it was Katie bar the door, no matter who was under center....
Is Tom better than those 2, well Cassell yes, Jimmy yes at this point, but he is definitely a system qb although a very good one....
But what matters in the end are the SB's and he has the most til somebody beats it....And that's the bottom line my friend....

 

[sonnyblack65]

I hear you sonny, but by the same token Brady would not be the success he's been with BB and his system....BB obviously perfected his system with Brady at QB, but should have made the playoffs with Cassell under center with an 11-5 season....Jimmy 3 of 4 out of the gate....
BB just needed time to get everything in place and once he did, it was Katie bar the door, no matter who was under center....
Is Tom better than those 2, well Cassell yes, Jimmy yes at this point, but he is definitely a system qb although a very good one....
But what matters in the end are the SB's and he has the most til somebody beats it....And that's the bottom line my friend....

Jimmy only played 1 1/2 games before he got injured and then Brissett played 2 1/2 and was banged up too, they also scored 10 points a game less which is huge. Belichick is a defensive genius and doesn't have an offensive system, that's all on Mc Daniels. The year Cassell played he threw 29 less td's than Brady did in 07 with same team, much easier schedule and missed the playoffs, have to beat the Phins, Buff and Jets. Again it;s a team effort, need the D which they have really good ones and haven't taken a WR in the first round in Brady's tenure, having to make the Wes Welkers and Edelman's your no#1 receiver, who were return specialists first. Brady has also had the 50 td season, 5000 yard season, great td/int ration 10 4th winning drives in playoffs, 2x as many as Montana and I think Peyton has only 1. 2 years ago had the biggest comeback in SB history ( down 10 in 4th Q) and this year you know they were down 25 points late in 3rd Q and needed to make both 2 point conv, White was huge too in the comeback. Guy has ice in his veins like Montana and doesn't fold or choke under any circumstances, some QB's wilt after a hit or int. Again Belichick's system was 5-11 and 0-2 and then went to the SB and won 3 out of the next 4

 

[Oldschool739]

Jimmy only played 1 1/2 games before he got injured and then Brissett played 2 1/2 and was banged up too, they also scored 10 points a game less which is huge. Belichick is a defensive genius and doesn't have an offensive system, that's all on Mc Daniels. The year Cassell played he threw 29 less td's than Brady did in 07 with same team, much easier schedule and missed the playoffs, have to beat the Phins, Buff and Jets. Again it;s a team effort, need the D which they have really good ones and haven't taken a WR in the first round in Brady's tenure, having to make the Wes Welkers and Edelman's your no#1 receiver, who were return specialists first. Brady has also had the 50 td season, 5000 yard season, great td/int ration 10 4th winning drives in playoffs, 2x as many as Montana and I think Peyton has only 1. 2 years ago had the biggest comeback in SB history ( down 10 in 4th Q) and this year you know they were down 25 points late in 3rd Q and needed to make both 2 point conv, White was huge too in the comeback. Guy has ice in his veins like Montana and doesn't fold or choke under any circumstances, some QB's wilt after a hit or int. Again Belichick's system was 5-11 and 0-2 and then went to the SB and won 3 out of the next 4

Well you mentioned the genius behind the O , JM and Weiss was another one....But Brissett just adds to my point, BB took a backup and 3rd stringer and won 3 out of 4 games....As far a Cassell, we all know he wasn't a good qb, but BB won 11 games with him and with some stroke of bad luck missed the playoffs.....I'm still against the system that allows a 7-9 team in and blocks an 11-5 team....It just seems wrong to me.....

 

[sonnyblack65]

Well you mentioned the genius behind the O , JM and Weiss was another one....But Brissett just adds to my point, BB took a backup and 3rd stringer and won 3 out of 4 games....As far a Cassell, we all know he wasn't a good qb, but BB won 11 games with him and with some stroke of bad luck missed the playoffs.....I'm still against the system that allows a 7-9 team in and blocks an 11-5 team....It just seems wrong to me.....

They beat AZ when they missed a fg, and we know how there season went, beat Miami and Houston and then shut out at home to Buffalo to go 3-1 . They never lose to Buffalo esp at home and first shutout in 40 years .I hear what your saying but BB has won jack squat w/o Brady. As a lifelong Pat's fan, I think that Brady has been more instrumental in the NE success than BB, like a 60/40 split. My opinion also is that Ray Lewis was the guy who made the Ravens's tick ( there for both SB's) than Billick or Harbs, because they have won shit w/o him so far. Now when Brady retires in a few years, and if Belichick still coaches and wins a SB or 2 w/o him, I will eat humble pie, but imo Brady saved Belichick's job in NE. If he had another 5-11 or 4-12 season I believe Kraft would have tossed his ass and figured it was Parcell's stirring the drink in the 97 season with Bledsoe as QB in SB

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

BB is a good coach, but common, without Tom there is no way in hell they have 5 championships... He's gotta give himself more credit than that... I mean dam, every Super-Bowl win they have he's come through BIG time when it counts the most... Something about that guy where he just play's his best when chaos is around him...

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

It's funny how NOW everybody wants to believe what he says ....

He's being humble.. Do you honestly think without Tom the Pats accomplished what they have ? Not a chance..

 

[USCDoom]

Anyone that does not think Brady is, By Far, the best QB is Delusional Or has an Ulterior Motive...

Brady thinks that trying to be Humble will score Brownie Points, he does to realize #1 being Humble, in this manor, is an insult to most people... Simply state it is not his job to judge other QB vs Him, it is his Job to win games and be #1 in the End...

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

Anyone that does not think Brady is, By Far, the best QB is Delusional Or has an Ulterior Motive...

Brady thinks that trying to be Humble will score Brownie Points, he does to realize #1 being Humble, in this manor, is an insult to most people... Simply state it is not his job to judge other QB vs Him, it is his Job to win games and be #1 in the End...

Why do you feel he needs Brownie points ? Just curious ...

 

[USCDoom]

Why do you feel he needs Brownie points ? Just curious ...

Why else would he be trying to push this drivel?

I think he is, at least in this instance, trying to push an Image. That somehow he is not just Great, but can divorce himself from his own Greatness by Recognizing others people Greatness...

Problem is, this is Football, Not Life. No One, not one person with a Brain or a Want to Win would pick any other QB before Brady in any kind of draft to start a Team with every QB available.

The fact he cannot realize this and just side step it, means, to me, he has an Ulterior Motive. Trying to look even more Great. Problem is he is already the Greatest...

 

[YankeeRebel]

All Brady did was remain humble and provide the moronic trolls something to keep themselves busy with this off season. But lets address some comments and issues.

1. Brady is a system QB: This IMO is one the dumbest arguments as it relates to Brady. So a system was put together that best suits his skill sets and this is somehow a bad thing or a blemish in his success. Every team that has an actual "Franchise QB" has built a system to support his skill sets. Why people act as if this is some new phenomenon solely related to Brady boggles the mind. Is Brady a system QB? Yes, and he has been the most successful QB in the history of the game with the system, the system he operates.

2. Brady's success is directly a product of Belichick: No one will ever doubt that Belichick has had a lot to do with the overall success of the Patriots and no one should doubt the the success of Belichick is also related directly to Tom Brady. BB has cut more than 20 so called stars from his roster the one he has kept the whole time and who was never an option to cut was Tom Brady, so if greatness recognizes greatness it should be apparent to anyone with comprehension skills the Brady was the key factor to a lot of wins in NE and he has made BB arguably the greatest coach in the history of the game.

3. Remaining Humble: It's what leaders do, when you are great at something you needn't toot your own horn, it's recognized and it's respected by fellow players on the team and on other teams. Ask the Falcons about Brady's leadership.

In the end Brady is the greatest QB to ever play the game that's my opinion and one I won't debate, whether or not he is the greatest football player of all time or greatest athletes of all time is up in the air, but I really don't care about those other two he turned a once door mat of an NFL team in to arguably the best franchise in the history of the game.

 

[R.J. MacReady]

[QUOTE="boogiewithstu2007, post: 10013621, member: 5104"]He's being humble.. Do you honestly think without Tom the Pats accomplished what they have ? Not a chance..[/QUOTE]


I know. I was responding to the other buffoon who doesn't get it.

 

[R.J. MacReady]

Let me put this to bed.

Why would Tom Brady give away so much credit for his success to his coach?


Because if you just say "I am the greatest" (even if you are) you come off sounding like a douche.

.

 

[sonnyblack65]

Why else would he be trying to push this drivel?

I think he is, at least in this instance, trying to push an Image. That somehow he is not just Great, but can divorce himself from his own Greatness by Recognizing others people Greatness...

Problem is, this is Football, Not Life. No One, not one person with a Brain or a Want to Win would pick any other QB before Brady in any kind of draft to start a Team with every QB available.

The fact he cannot realize this and just side step it, means, to me, he has an Ulterior Motive. Trying to look even more Great. Problem is he is already the Greatest...

Some people are naturally humble or appreciate and worked hard to get what they have accomplished. He was drafted at 199th, 6 shit bum QB's before him and only started because of the injury to Bledsoe, They you have cocky players like Sapp who don't have 1 oz of humble in their bones, just their makeup. Find me 1 Brady interview where he takes credit for a win, all the wins are because of the team and I have heard him take blame for a loss. He knew that Butler and White were huge in the last 2SB's and that's why he is the only QB that I can remember giving away the SB MVP trucks. Also first SB team to come out as a team and has refused the Captains position to give it to younger guys

 

[black francis]

Brady is calling himself great by saying he isn't great

He just wants to sit back and listen to the debate about how great people think he is

Arrogant motherfucker.

 

[BigKen]

Honestly, I think Peyton could have had similar success in Cleveland. As it was, he carried a garbage Colts team to contention every year.

Can I have some of whatever it is that you're taking? Please?

Peyton Manning couldn't win a game in temps under 40 degrees. He would have SUCKED in Cleveland, playing next to the lake. Peyton played 15 years indoors in perfect weather, no wind, no rain, no snow. When he left the dome and played in nice weather he was fine. When he went to any city with foul weather or cold weather, he folded like a cheap tent.

The Colts had great offenses to make the most of Manning's talent. The garbage was on defense.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Brady is calling himself great by saying he isn't great

He just wants to sit back and listen to the debate about how great people think he is

Arrogant motherfucker.

LMAO Like Brady spends anytime reading this crap LOL

 

[LetsGoPats]

…but by the same token Brady would not be the success he's been with BB and his system...

"I'll take 'Wishful Conjecture' for $500, Alex"

 

[huskers1217]

If Brady wants to go down as the best ever. He should be traded to Cleveland immediately and go win

 

[huskers1217]

LMAO Like Brady spends anytime reading this crap LOL

Trust me. He does.

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