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Brady about to double Elway’s career TD total

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Since you must have missed it the first time, I'll rewrite it - it wasn't just one good year. The final 6 seasons of his career were all REMARKABLY better than the first 10. So why is that? Did he just suddenly figure out how to be a good qb in the NFL after 10 season?
Same answer. Some years are better than others. Improvement? Circumstances? Got off drugs?
 

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Actually I'm afraid that you are missing the point. You're so obsessed with comparing Elway to Eli that can't see the point I'm driving at. The final 6 seasons of his career, Elway was a remarkably better qb statistically. So why is that? Did it just take him 10 years to figure out how to be a qb in the NFL?
Your Bronco blinders aren't allowing you to see the forrest thru the trees. His numbers are not drastically different.

So again without becoming redundant. Some players do take longer to develop and figure things out. I'm not going to go research every game, who was on the team at the time, who they faced/injured, SoS...

They all play into it.

Elway was good to very good. He was not great. He's compared to Eli because they are one in the same.

So I and others continue to answer you tap dancing questions.

How about you answer mine? Was Eli great?
Do you consider him overrated?
 

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Your Bronco blinders aren't allowing you to see the forrest thru the trees. His numbers are not drastically different.

So again without becoming redundant. Some players do take longer to develop and figure things out. I'm not going to go research every game, who was on the team at the time, who they faced/injured, SoS...

They all play into it.

Elway was good to very good. He was not great. He's compared to Eli because they are one in the same.

So I and others continue to answer you tap dancing questions.

How about you answer mine? Was Eli great?
Do you consider him overrated?
I'll help you out here. The first ten years of Elway's career, the Broncos were coached by Dan Reeves. First year without Reeves, Elway has a career year. And every year post Reeves is better than any year with Reeves. Couple this with the fact that Reeves fired Mike Shanahan because he was drawing up plays with Elway without Reeves' knowledge, and you reach the obvious conclusion that Reeves was holding Elway back.
 

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Same answer. Some years are better than others. Improvement? Circumstances? Got off drugs?
Dan Reeves got fired. And the Broncos brought in coaches that actually utilized their Hall of Fame talent at qb, and bam, Elway's numbers spike across the board.
 

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Dan Reeves got fired. And the Broncos brought in coaches that actually utilized their Hall of Fame talent at qb, and bam, Elway's numbers spike across the board.
This is spiking in Denver-ese I guess? Sorry I throw the bs flag on your proclamation.Screenshot_20211019-134808_Chrome.jpg

Now are you going to answer my questions or keep spinning this same broken record?
 

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This is spiking in Denver-ese I guess? Sorry I throw the bs flag on your proclamation.View attachment 281792

Now are you going to answer my questions or keep spinning this same broken record?

Elway's stats with Reeves vs after Reeves

YearsComp%Yards/seasonTDINTRat
1983-199254.73,02215815773.8
1993-199860.03,5431426988.9
 

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Elway's stats with Reeves vs after Reeves

YearsComp%Yards/seasonTDINTRat
1983-199254.73,02215815773.8
1993-199860.03,5431426988.9
So you still won't answer my questions?

If you man up and answer? Which I doubt you will because it will kill your narrative. I will point out the flaws in your continued blind homer Elwayvision.
 

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So you still won't answer my questions?

If you man up and answer? Which I doubt you will because it will kill your narrative. I will point out the flaws in your continued blind homer Elwayvision.
What question? Is Eli overrated? No, I think he's pretty fairly rated. Is Eli comparable to Elway? No, not even close, and no one worth considering honestly holds that opinion.

If there's another question I missed go ahead and point it out to me.
 

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Well,
Andy Dalton about to double Jim Zorn and Trent Dilfer's TD totals!
 

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I'll help you out here. The first ten years of Elway's career, the Broncos were coached by Dan Reeves. First year without Reeves, Elway has a career year. And every year post Reeves is better than any year with Reeves. Couple this with the fact that Reeves fired Mike Shanahan because he was drawing up plays with Elway without Reeves' knowledge, and you reach the obvious conclusion that Reeves was holding Elway back.
5+5 =25?
 

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Like, I was on the Elway was overrated bandwagon forever and even I can admit arguing Elway is equivalent Eli is sketchy as hell in context.
 

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I guess since it destroys your argument I can understand why you'd choose to ignore it.
Wrong again.
I watched Elway play. He is overrated.
Cherry picking a bunch of stats won't change my mind.

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Wrong again.
I watched Elway play. He is overrated.
Cherry picking a bunch of stats won't change my mind.

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Add "cherry picking" to the list of things you don't understand.
 

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Elway is Matt Stafford with cheating.......
 
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