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Bigger fuck up: Losing Barry or losing Suh?

Which fuck up is worse?

  • Barry

    Votes: 22 68.8%
  • Suh

    Votes: 5 15.6%
  • Equally fucked

    Votes: 5 15.6%

  • Total voters
    32
  • Poll closed .

RobBase

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...and using that money to fill multiple spots on the defensive side of the ball.

with guys like KVB, Jason Jones, Chris Houston, Glover Quin and Stephen Tulloch. Round and round we go.
 

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Suh will haunt the Lions for years

Unless Suh starts putting up numbers like he did in his rookie year -- He isn't going to be haunting anyone but the team who signs him to a long term contract if they offer him what he is asking for.
 

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You just can't help but be a total chode when someone doesn't love the Lions like you do. Can't wait for you to follow Mayhew and Lewand out of Detroit since you love them so much. You'll be the biggest Sabercat fan in San Jose.


Are you going to follow Suh? :hope:

Hell, you can even follow Dennard when he leaves... ohh wait nevermind
 

RobBase

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No, I said DEION SANDERS. He left after his initial contract with Atlanta. He was the best CB and hit the FA market, and he wasn't old.

And he did that 20 years ago. Proving my point that.......

Guys like Suh almost never reach the open market after their first contract.

Thanks again, bro. :suds:
 

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Unless Suh starts putting up numbers like he did in his rookie year -- He isn't going to be haunting anyone but the team who signs him to a long term contract if they offer him what he is asking for.

Well he won't have loser at life Martin Mayhew and drunk POS Tom Lewand surrounding him with shitty players so I'm not worried about it.

Seriously LOL at you guys thinking this staff is somehow smarter than everyone in the NFL who will be lining up to sign this guy the second he walks out our door.
 

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It was a sad day in the Lions nation when Barry retired. Suh isn't worth the bs.
 

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And he did that 20 years ago. Proving my point that.......



Thanks again, bro. :suds:

Doesn't matter how long ago it was, it happened. And he was just the first one that came to mind.

Who was the last guy on his level to jet from the team who drafted him the first chance he could? It happens when players get old, not when their in their prime.
This is what you originally asked. I don't know the LAST guy to do it, but Deion sure did. I don't know the rest, don't care to look. You claimed it only happens when guys are old, I showed an example that it doesn't.
 

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Point is guys like Suh never reach free agency. That's history talking. Only the Lions are shitty enough to let this happen.

Reggie
Deion
Bryce Paup
Shannon Sharpe
Curtis Martin




Drew Brees.
 

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"Can't wait for the Lions to make the playoffs this year. Can't wait for Mayhew and Drunk Tom to save their jobs once we make the playoffs. They're good. Can't wait until Suh is gone. Fairley too. Can't wait to sign 2 new DT's with all the money we'll save without Suh and Fairley. Our CB's are fine."

- Mayhew Lovers

 
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It was a sad day in the Lions nation when Barry retired. Suh isn't worth the bs.

Easy for a Patriots fan to say.
 

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with guys like KVB, Jason Jones, Chris Houston, Glover Quin and Stephen Tulloch. Round and round we go.

Detroit HAS to try and fill holes on the team and they have to do so with the players available in the cap space they have to spend. Detroit spends more on their top 3 contracts than any team in the NFL. By doing so -- they have to fill starting positions with players they can afford.

That being said. Tulloch and Quin have been solid for Detroit. KVB played well for the Lions his 1st two years. His last year, he had slowed down a step or two and for a player whose success depends on a high motor -- that was the end of his time with Detroit.

We got Houston for next to nothing and while he isn't a #1 CB, he was forced into that role because Detroit can't afford to bring one in thru FA and haven't hit on any draft picks (though Slay has potential).

I don't even know what to say about Jason Jones, as he didn't even get to play much at all last year.
 

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Reggie
Deion
Bryce Paup
Shannon Sharpe
Curtis Martin




Drew Brees.
Drew Brees was hurt and nothing great in Sandy Eggo. (They love drafting QBs. We took Jeff Backus instead of Brees.) And he wanted to be a Lion via FA. Millen taught Mayhew the ropes.
 

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Seriously LOL at you guys thinking this staff is somehow smarter than everyone in the NFL who will be lining up to sign this guy the second he walks out our door.

no one KNOWS what Suh is asking to be paid. IF he is asking to be paid as the highest paid defensive player in the NFL -- it will be a very short line to sign him and he won't be going to one of the top teams.

as much as we love Suh -- he still plays DT and he has had trouble against the run, which is why basically every expert lists Gerald McCoy as the best DT in the NFL right now.

in the end -- you have to produce, whether you are being doubled or not. Suh has averaged a shade under 6 sacks and 40 tackles since his rookie year of 60 tackles and 10.5 sacks. i'd be standing next to you screaming the Lions need to back up the Brinks truck if Suh was putting up numbers like his rookie year. he hasn't though.

he hasn't done anything to tell me he deserves much more than Geno Atkins received. Atkins is facing the same double teams and has outproduced Suh in less games, as he tore his ACL last year.

if it gets out the Lions weren't willing to give Suh 11 or 12 million a year -- yes -- I would be utterly disgusted with our front office. if it is Suh asking for 15 or 16 million -- I show him the door, as NO defensive tackle is worth that kind of money.
 

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Drew Brees was hurt and nothing great in Sandy Eggo.

I was going to type the same thing. The Saints hit the lottery when they signed Brees.
 

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No, your reading comprehension seems to be lacking. I said DEION SANDERS. He left after his initial contract with Atlanta. He was the best CB and hit the FA market, and he wasn't old.

Lol- "You aren't paying attention to me."

Quote of the year so far. Puts a lot of this into perspective, hey?
 

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no one KNOWS what Suh is asking to be paid. IF he is asking to be paid as the highest paid defensive player in the NFL -- it will be a very short line to sign him and he won't be going to one of the top teams.

as much as we love Suh -- he still plays DT and he has had trouble against the run, which is why basically every expert lists Gerald McCoy as the best DT in the NFL right now.

in the end -- you have to produce, whether you are being doubled or not. Suh has averaged a shade under 6 sacks and 40 tackles since his rookie year of 60 tackles and 10.5 sacks. i'd be standing next to you screaming the Lions need to back up the Brinks truck if Suh was putting up numbers like his rookie year. he hasn't though.

he hasn't done anything to tell me he deserves much more than Geno Atkins received. Atkins is facing the same double teams and has outproduced Suh in less games, as he tore his ACL last year.

if it gets out the Lions weren't willing to give Suh 11 or 12 million a year -- yes -- I would be utterly disgusted with our front office. if it is Suh asking for 15 or 16 million -- I show him the door, as NO defensive tackle is worth that kind of money.

Suh is obviously a better DT than McCoy. The DT position isn't just about sacks. QB pressures is an under appreciated stat. How has he done in that category? A defense will scheme away from a dominant force like Suh.
 
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