Big Brother

[calsnowskier]

I know this is going to be unpopular but I owe Angela an apology.

I know she won the first HOH but during that whole first week I thought she was going to be another Victoria where people would just take her along because she was a floater and worthless.

But I was wrong, she played such a great social game that everyone loved her and she was winning comps to prove that she belonged in this house.

I’ve never seen a season where one person had the veto used on them by so many different people in the house because their social game was that strong

The veto was used on her because no one thought she had a chance in hell to win and they wanted to earn her jury vote and replace her with a bigger target.

The house viewed and treated her like a Victoria, but she did actually TRY to play the game while Victoria just took a vacation and just waterskied in Derrick’s wake

 

[MilkSpiller22]

the further we go into this season the worse it gets... damn this was a weak season with a weak cast, and will be a weak winner...

I guess Chelsea is an average winner, if she wins... but if anyone else wins, it is a weak winner... if MJ was at all intelligent(which she is not) this would have been an easy season for her to win... but as is, i think everyone in the house would beat her... which is a shame... maybe not rubina, she is even worse...

 

[calsnowskier]

I just don’t give a shit about this cast or the game play. It didn’t piss me off like the Cookout season (I was THIS close to legit walking away from the show that year), but this year just sucked. 2 Jersey-shore douchebags, 2 POC alternative woman, 3 beta-boys, 2 grandparents, 3 “normal” POCs, 2 “normal” white chicks and (Lisa and Brooklyn).

 

[MilkSpiller22]

I just don’t give a shit about this cast or the game play. It didn’t piss me off like the Cookout season (I was THIS close to legit walking away from the show that year), but this year just sucked. 2 Jersey-shore douchebags, 2 POC alternative woman, 3 beta-boys, 2 grandparents, 3 “normal” POCs, 2 “normal” white chicks and (Lisa and Brooklyn).

its not about the labels.... again, the problem with this show has become that the contestants care too much about their potential future in the competitive reality circuit...

this cast was obvious on that, as nobody really came to play... You had tucker in the beginning complaining about the house not wanting to play, so he made these big moves... just to spice things up, he didnt care about his game, he just wanted to enjoy the game(which i respect)...

this entire cast were actors, and they showed it... game play was just not there this season... and the few that played the game played such an ugly game that they were obvious targets(Angela, Tucker, Quinn, Matt)

Rubina might be one of the worst players i ever saw in this game. Cant win comps, and she is dumb enough not make good strategic moves...

Cam, i am not sure what he is doing, he is so comfortable in the house that he doesnt want to make any moves for himself...

 

[calsnowskier]

Not sure what the point is of watching this season any more. Chelsie clearly DESERVES the win. The ONLY question is if the jury is butt hurt or not.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Not sure what the point is of watching this season any more. Chelsie clearly DESERVES the win. The ONLY question is if the jury is butt hurt or not.

Or if anyone is smart enough to let her go.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Not sure what the point is of watching this season any more. Chelsie clearly DESERVES the win. The ONLY question is if the jury is butt hurt or not.

But tv wise. They should really condense it more in the final few weeks. They took away Wednesdays which was smart. But still 2 episodes a week for the final 5 and on is just too much.

 

[calsnowskier]

Or if anyone is smart enough to let her go.

There is absolutely nothing indicating that that is possible.

MAYBE if Purina wins the final HOH, she may bring Mak. But the only chance she has to win is if she takes Cam. But Cam or Mak will be going home this week (unless the winner of the Veto is truly an idiot).

 

[MilkSpiller22]

There is absolutely nothing indicating that that is possible.

MAYBE if Purina wins the final HOH, she may bring Mak. But the only chance she has to win is if she takes Cam. But Cam or Mak will be going home this week (unless the winner of the Veto is truly an idiot).

Cam will get MJ out if he wins Veto, MJ, i am not so sure is smart enough to get rid of Cam...

and then it is all about the final 3 competitions...

If Cam knocks out Mac this week, and wins HOH and knocks out Chelsie, that is a surprisingly good resume, and he can beat Rubina that way...

if the final 3 is Mac, Chelsie and Cam, then Chelsie will win... and Cam SHOULD take Chelsie, as it would help his resume, even though he will lose, but he would lose to MJ as well, and i think he would rather lose to chelsea than MJ

but if Rubina makes it to the final 3 then there is a real path for someone other than Chelsie to win...

but of course Chelsea is the HUGE favourite to win...

Here are the milkian odds

Cam to win it all- only chance is for him to beat MJ in this competition=50%, eliminate MJ=70%, win HOH=33%, bring Rubina- 40%=4%
Rubina to win it all= 0%
MJ to win it all= chances to be final 3=65% chances to be final 2 not vs Chelsea=33% =21%

which gives Chelsea a 75% chance to win this....

 

[Duffman]

I just watched the Sunday episode last night and I won’t be able to watch the finale tonight but I think Cam wins veto, send Mac Home, and Chelsea wins it all after taking Rubina.

 

[calsnowskier]

I just watched the Sunday episode last night and I won’t be able to watch the finale tonight but I think Cam wins veto, send Mac Home, and Chelsea wins it all after taking Rubina.

Tonight is a recap episode. The finale is Sunday.

 

[calsnowskier]

While I hate to see Mak (again) doing Chelsie’s bidding, I see her selfish rationale for evicting Purina.

Mak probably loses to both Chelsie AND Purina. but both would bring her to the final 2, so she would be guaranteed second place.

Cam would bring Chelsie if he wins, but Mak would actually win vs Cam. But she would only make it to the finals if she wins.

Going by EV…

Eliminating Purina gets her 250k (33% of 750k)
Eliminating Cam gets her 50k (100% of 50k)

 

[calsnowskier]

As it sits, IMHO…

Chelsie would take Cam (Chelsie wins)
Mak would take Cam (Mak wins)
Cam would take Chelsie (Chelsie wins)

Chelsie has an EV of 500k
Mak has an EV of 250k
Cam has 2nd place locked (50k)

 

[MilkSpiller22]

While I hate to see Mak (again) doing Chelsie’s bidding, I see her selfish rationale for evicting Purina.

Mak probably loses to both Chelsie AND Purina. but both would bring her to the final 2, so she would be guaranteed second place.

Cam would bring Chelsie if he wins, but Mak would actually win vs Cam. But she would only make it to the finals if she wins.

Going by EV…

Eliminating Purina gets her 250k (33% of 750k)
Eliminating Cam gets her 50k (100% of 50k)

are you saying that purina would have beaten Mac, or just that mac thought she would beat her??

 

[calsnowskier]

are you saying that purina would have beaten Mac, or just that mac thought she would beat her??

I think she DEFINITELY beats Cam. And she might actually beat Purina in an actual vote, but in the fishbowl, they see Purina as already having 2 locked votes. And there is no telling how they will vote with the very limited info we, as viewers, have.

Cam has been a vote this season. Period. He hasn’t won any comps. He hasn’t driven any evictions. He hasn’t created any alliances. He made no plays. He is the male version of Veronica (though, Veronica was delusional, thinking she was actually playing).

 

[MilkSpiller22]

I think she DEFINITELY beats Cam. And she might actually beat Purina in an actual vote, but in the fishbowl, they see Purina as already having 2 locked votes. And there is no telling how they will vote with the very limited info we, as viewers, have.

Cam has been a vote this season. Period. He hasn’t won any comps. He hasn’t driven any evictions. He hasn’t created any alliances. He made no plays. He is the male version of Veronica (though, Veronica was delusional, thinking she was actually playing).

i agree about the 2 set votes... but that is only 2 votes... if she is so afraid of those votes, then she has no chance to win vs anyone... i wonder if she is smart enough to see that her only chance to win now is with Cam....

and honestly, i would probably spite vote against her too... if i had a vote, which of course i dont, i would vote Cam over Mac...

Id rather someone have no opportunity to make a big decision than one who makes the wrong decision every single time...

 

[calsnowskier]

i agree about the 2 set votes... but that is only 2 votes... if she is so afraid of those votes, then she has no chance to win vs anyone... i wonder if she is smart enough to see that her only chance to win now is with Cam....

and honestly, i would probably spite vote against her too... if i had a vote, which of course i dont, i would vote Cam over Mac...

Id rather someone have no opportunity to make a big decision than one who makes the wrong decision every single time...

Being a blind stooge for Chelsie is absolutely an argument against her. But Cam would be a worse winner than Josh.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Being a blind stooge for Chelsie is absolutely an argument against her. But Cam would be a worse winner than Josh.

didnt Cam strategize with Chelsea a lot?? as they were playing together the whole game, and were eachother's number ones since brooklyn and cedrick left

 

[calsnowskier]

didnt Cam strategize with Chelsea a lot?? as they were playing together the whole game, and were eachother's number ones since brooklyn and cedrick left

What did Cam EVER add? He was manipulated by Chelsie the whole way.

Though, those were private convos that the jury is not privy to.

 

[Old Lion]

didnt Cam strategize with Chelsea a lot?? as they were playing together the whole game, and were eachother's number ones since brooklyn and cedrick left

Here and there but not much. He was still pretty much dead weight and can finish no better than second now.

Leah screwed up the entire game by putting up T'Kor. After going through all the trouble of knocking down a 6 person alliance down to 3 she decides to flip and start putting up the other side who was not winning anything. It was a stupid move. She planned to reverse it by winning the second veto but unfortunately throws like a girl and was not able to.