Bears/Seahawks

[Butkus34]

I'm in North Dakota so I only got to see nits and pieces in the NFL Network, but one thing that stood out is Lance Briggs looked really slow.

 

[Wounded Bear]

Any chance of us dumping Tucker in the preseason and picking up Leslie Frazier?

 

[antone112]

yeah, jeez, every year we go through this.

THE PRESEASON TELLS YOU VIRTUALLY NOTHING.

Do you realize that exactly 0 of last year's 8 division winners had winning preseason records? That's right. ZERO.

In the last 3 years, of 24 division winners, there have been 4 with winning preseasons. FOUR.

Remember last year when the NY Giants rolled through preseason at 4-0 on their way to the Super Bowl? Oh wait, you don't?

Or maybe we might remember something a little closer to home. that team that beat us the last time we were in a Super Bowl, the 2006 Colts....they went 0-4.

We could go on and on about this. I'm not saying this as a homer, I criticize the Bears more than most, but whether the Bears have been good or awful in the preseason matters for exactly nothing. Zilch. Nada.

Stop drawing lessons from preseason scrimmages. They are some practices, that's all. The only thing that matters is that nobody gets injured. THAT IS IT.

I could really care less what are win/loss record is. We could have scored 34 in the second half last night it would not have changed my outlook one bit. What I do care about is the fact that we were DOMINATED in the only part of the game that featured players that will play 90% of the time. I agree the record aspect of preseason is meaningless, given the fact that starters play about 30% of the time. But you can't deny that our starters (especially on D) got their asses kicked last night. Explain to me why I should expect something different in 15 days.

 

[nebearsfan70]

I could really care less what are win/loss record is. We could have scored 34 in the second half last night it would not have changed my outlook one bit. What I do care about is the fact that we were DOMINATED in the only part of the game that featured players that will play 90% of the time. I agree the record aspect of preseason is meaningless, given the fact that starters play about 30% of the time. But you can't deny that our starters (especially on D) got their asses kicked last night. Explain to me why I should expect something different in 15 days.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[cubzzzfanincali]

Because it happens all the time. The players are playing at 75%, and you are watching vanilla game plans, and they are trying to avoid injuries, and you are watching like 3 drives and extrapolating what's going to happen, in spite of the fact that we have an avalanche of evidence that what happens in preseason has no correlation to what happens in the regular season. That's why. If they play badly the first two games of the real season, then yeah, bitch about, cool. But watching you guys get all exercised about a bad quarter of preseason play...well...let's just say I'm not joining that posse.

 

[cubzzzfanincali]

Let's put it this way...take a look at the Patriots history of preseasons.

2013 3-1
2012 1-3
2011 2-2
2010 2-2
2009 3-1
2008 0-4 (this was the team coming off 18-1, and remember Brady didn't get hurt until regular season)
2007 2-2
2006 2-2
2005 2-2
2004 1-3 (won Super Bowl)
2003 4-0 (won Super Bowl)
2002 3-1 (didn't make playoffs)
2001 3-1 (won Super Bowl)

Let me ask you, what does their preseason tell you? Does it say anything about whether Belichick is a good coach? Those teams lost many games badly in their preseasons, many of their first unit performances were terrible, the fans openly wondering if this was going to be a long hard season and that they needed wholesale turnover.

Were they right? What on Earth does it have to do with anything? It's a NFL revenue generator, causes some key injuries, and little else. You'll get no insight, no matter how badly you want to.

 

[anotheridiot]

I could really care less what are win/loss record is. We could have scored 34 in the second half last night it would not have changed my outlook one bit. What I do care about is the fact that we were DOMINATED in the only part of the game that featured players that will play 90% of the time. I agree the record aspect of preseason is meaningless, given the fact that starters play about 30% of the time. But you can't deny that our starters (especially on D) got their asses kicked last night. Explain to me why I should expect something different in 15 days.

you said what I meant, I dont care if its a parking lot pickup game, if your team cannot get up for the world champs you gotta question the want or intestinal fortitude the team has.

 

[antone112]

Let's put it this way...take a look at the Patriots history of preseasons.

2013 3-1
2012 1-3
2011 2-2
2010 2-2
2009 3-1
2008 0-4 (this was the team coming off 18-1, and remember Brady didn't get hurt until regular season)
2007 2-2
2006 2-2
2005 2-2
2004 1-3 (won Super Bowl)
2003 4-0 (won Super Bowl)
2002 3-1 (didn't make playoffs)
2001 3-1 (won Super Bowl)

Let me ask you, what does their preseason tell you? Does it say anything about whether Belichick is a good coach? Those teams lost many games badly in their preseasons, many of their first unit performances were terrible, the fans openly wondering if this was going to be a long hard season and that they needed wholesale turnover.

Were they right? What on Earth does it have to do with anything? It's a NFL revenue generator, causes some key injuries, and little else. You'll get no insight, no matter how badly you want to.

Pretty sure I mentioned that I don't care about records. I can guarantee you that they didn't look as bad as we did with starters on the field. All a winning record in preseason proves is that you invited better scubs to camp than the other teams did. Preseason isn't about the record, it's about the eyes.

 

[DaSuperfan]

As bad as the result was Friday night, I'm not going to get too low on preseason game. It was certainly disappointing to see the defense not being able to stop Seahawks offense. However, this was a preseason game afte rall. No game planning was involved and coaches typically call plays to put certain players in key situations to see how they perform. If this continually happens during the regular season then there'll be a legitimate cause for concern.

If the Bears came out and dominated the Seahawks I would still say it's only the preaseason - you can't get too high or too low based on these games. Even if it was the 3rd game of the preseason. Can anyone remember last years 3rd game of the preseason results from around the league and equate failure or success to those teams in the regular season?

 

[DaSuperfan]

Btw, how do you edit your posts?

 

[noonthirtyjoe]

I could really care less what are win/loss record is. We could have scored 34 in the second half last night it would not have changed my outlook one bit. What I do care about is the fact that we were DOMINATED in the only part of the game that featured players that will play 90% of the time. I agree the record aspect of preseason is meaningless, given the fact that starters play about 30% of the time. But you can't deny that our starters (especially on D) got their asses kicked last night. Explain to me why I should expect something different in 15 days.

Because in 15 days well game plan and blitz. Our D will get better as we play together. Most of the plays we gave up were after we flushed Wilson out of the pocket. There are only a handful of QBs better outside the pocket then in.

 

[noonthirtyjoe]

Btw, how do you edit your posts?

Edit button on bottom. But you get 5 min to use it or lose it.

 

[yutch]

It is pre season...

Yeah, I probably took it one step too far with that one. This wasn't week 17 of last year; this was a bunch of guys who just got off work, really.

But.

I'm getting this uneasy feeling that our coaches and players think we're farther along than we really are. And when I see Paea and Cutler yukking it up just as I'm thinking "This team isn't just a spit-polish away from being what it can!", it rankles. Not for any good or lasting reason, but it rankles.

 

[NCChiFan]

And when I see Paea and Cutler yukking it up just as I'm thinking "This team isn't just a spit-polish away from being what it can!", it rankles. Not for any good or lasting reason, but it rankles.

I hear you. I don't know what to think of the "yukking it up" on the sidelines also. Either they're extremely confident that what they're doing on the field is just pre season walk through, not tipping the ole hat, got really cool stuff planned or the guys were "yukking it up" when serious problems are a foot and they really need to be on top of it.

I just don't know.

 

[nebearsfan70]

Yeah, I probably took it one step too far with that one. This wasn't week 17 of last year; this was a bunch of guys who just got off work, really.

But.

I'm getting this uneasy feeling that our coaches and players think we're farther along than we really are. And when I see Paea and Cutler yukking it up just as I'm thinking "This team isn't just a spit-polish away from being what it can!", it rankles. Not for any good or lasting reason, but it rankles.

That's how I feel about the team. I just hope there is some big miracle that happens by week 1 and the Bears somehow play decent on defense.

 

[cubzzzfanincali]

Yeah, I probably took it one step too far with that one. This wasn't week 17 of last year; this was a bunch of guys who just got off work, really.

But.

I'm getting this uneasy feeling that our coaches and players think we're farther along than we really are. And when I see Paea and Cutler yukking it up just as I'm thinking "This team isn't just a spit-polish away from being what it can!", it rankles. Not for any good or lasting reason, but it rankles.

Ok as far as this goes I am with you. If you are on tv and losing badly, hey should at least be able to pretend better.

 

[Wounded Bear]

As bad as the result was Friday night, I'm not going to get too low on preseason game. It was certainly disappointing to see the defense not being able to stop Seahawks offense. However, this was a preseason game afte rall. No game planning was involved and coaches typically call plays to put certain players in key situations to see how they perform. If this continually happens during the regular season then there'll be a legitimate cause for concern.

If the Bears came out and dominated the Seahawks I would still say it's only the preaseason - you can't get too high or too low based on these games. Even if it was the 3rd game of the preseason. Can anyone remember last years 3rd game of the preseason results from around the league and equate failure or success to those teams in the regular season?

I'm kinda with antone112 on this one. I'm not looking for us to win the game. I really don't care if the Seahawks beat us 70-0.....but what does concern me is the individual play by our linebackers, how slow they react, how they are out of position and getting beaten on both pass and run plays. Our defensive backs allowing easy completions to be caught right in front of them by no-name receivers (as was the case during the Jacksonville game).

I know we didn't game plan. I know our defense is vanilla. But isn't that the case with Seattle and Jacksonville as well? Am I to believe that Seattle did game plan against us?

Listen, I get that it's preseason and I am far from running into the streets screaming "the sky is falling, the sky is falling," but I personally don't think these performances bode well for our defense, nor do I think that there will be some magical transformation that will take place in the first week for us.

First week we play Buffalo. I get the feeling that CJ Spiller is going to have his way with our defense in the same way Denard Robinson did a couple weeks back.

 

[wood20ks]

I didn`t see the game,or last two games either.

Why?........Cause preseason means nothing............Lets just see how it turns up vs Buffalo.

If your worried about the seattle game,you`d better worry about our greatest qb ever Cutler and his pick from a yard out...................if your not worried about that,then don`t worry about the rest.

just sayin.

 

[podsox]

I didn`t see the game,or last two games either.

Why?........Cause preseason means nothing............Lets just see how it turns up vs Buffalo.

If your worried about the seattle game,you`d better worry about our greatest qb ever Cutler and his pick from a yard out...................if your not worried about that,then don`t worry about the rest.

just sayin.

watching your starting d get absolutely destroyed does mean something imo

 

[Cloud]

If Cutler was on a team that let him throw for 175 yards a game, a chunk of 'em on Hail Marys, and still make the Super Bowl, he'd be a different player. Same goes for roughly every other QB in the league.

Not sure how his contract has cost us a better defense this year. Down the line, it might. But this year, we were able to sign him to an extension and invest respectably in the D.

Man this post is just oozing with stupidity.