Andrew Luck signed thru 2021

[SonnyCID]

Kid's great. On Seattle he'd have 3 Super Bowls.

Sure...

Russell Wilson has the edge over Andrew Luck through first four seasons

 

[NEhomer]

Kid's great. On Seattle he'd have 3 Super Bowls.

Yeah, that's what I've heard from Wilson haters.

 

[SonnyCID]

Personally, I prefer facts to hypotheticals.

 

[TP76]

Kid's great. On Seattle he'd have 3 Super Bowls.

Conversely, you could also say - Luck would be road pizza playing behind Seattle OL.

Same subjective crap, from another slant.

 

[cdumler7]

Fair points but sooner or later, his play on the field has to reflect the expectations.

I agree he has to do more. I just think the way the Colts are being run doesn't exactly help him either. Yes they have made some moves to secure some weapons for him but like I said they have built the team once again from the outside in instead of inside out and we have seen Luck get destroyed because of that choice. Now some of the decision making on throws still is his fault. He sometimes even with a clean pocket will throw into triple coverage for some reason. Those kind of things have to get cleaned up.

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

He also gets too much criticism. His contract per year may sound high, but hell, it's not that much for 3 years, 75 million? Texans paid 60+ for Oz? LOL. Luck is a much better QB IMO, but then I am wrong most of the time, so there is that...

lol ... I think the Texans were crazy to spend what they did... But it just shows you have this league is a QB driven league and teams are always reaching for that guy ....

 

[cdumler7]

Spoken like a true football fan. NFL GMs aren't fans though.

I also understand why you are championing this rationale. It's the position you find the team you root for currently in. I'm going to need to see a Mark Sanchez caliber QB win a Super Bowl (I know, I know...Trent Dilfer...).

Show me a mediocre QB being paid say 14% of the cap that has won a Super Bowl. We have a ton of examples of teams doing this year after year yet continuing to be a mediocre team at best. They maybe make the playoffs once every 3-4 years to give a team and fans hope when the QB plays above average but otherwise they just fall right back into the old pattern again the next year.

 

[Money]

Has anyone ever made more money off a 4-game run?

This is such an intelligent post. You are 100% correct. Ozzie Newsome and Steve Bisciotti are so clueless. Dumb as a box of rocks, those two are.

 

[Uhsplit]

Kid's great. On Seattle he'd have 3 Super Bowls.

How do you back up your claim or is it just weak trolling?
Let me guess...draft status?

 

[eaglesnut]

Yeah, that's what I've heard from Wilson haters.

Wilson's fine, it's the fans that are bitches.

 

[Money]

Show me a mediocre QB being paid say 14% of the cap that has won a Super Bowl.

2015 - Peyton Manning

 

[eaglesnut]

Conversely, you could also say - Luck would be road pizza playing behind Seattle OL.

Same subjective crap, from another slant.

They've both had terrible lines. Only Wilson had a great running back and defense.

 

[SonnyCID]

"Andrew Luck is 31st in the NFL in completion % since 2012 because of his defense" - retards like eaglesnut

 

[TP76]

They've both had terrible lines. Only Wilson had a great running back and defense.

and indeed Luck was road pizza last year...

It's a circular argument EN, subjective and equally unprovable (whichever side of the roof you're on)

 

[SonnyCID]

and indeed Luck was road pizza last year...

It's a circular argument EN, subjective and equally unprovable (whichever side of the roof you're on)

Stats can be deceiving, but they don't lie. Especially when there's a cavernous disparity between whatever you're comparing.

 

[flyerhawk]

Show me a mediocre QB being paid say 14% of the cap that has won a Super Bowl.

Eli Manning says hi.

 

[flyerhawk]

They've both had terrible lines. Only Wilson had a great running back and defense.

Wilson didn't have a great RB last year. And he ended up with his best statistical season of his career.

 

[SonnyCID]

Eli Manning says hi.

Actually Manning accounted for 11.5% of the Giants cap in 2011.

Can't find anything for 2007, but considering he was on his rookie deal (6/54), I doubt it was anywhere near 14% of the cap.

 

[flyerhawk]

Actually Manning accounted for 11.5% of the Giants cap in 2011.

Can't find anything for 2007, but considering he was on his rookie deal (6/54), I doubt it was anywhere near 14% of the cap.

I was referring to 2011. I don't think there is a huge difference between 11.5% and 14%.

And honestly I am only half serious as I think the 2011 team was arguably the luckiest team to ever win a Super Bowl.

 

[cdumler7]

I was referring to 2011. I don't think there is a huge difference between 11.5% and 14%.

And honestly I am only half serious as I think the 2011 team was arguably the luckiest team to ever win a Super Bowl.

Well the NFL has shown that 14% mark is the deal breaker even with the elite QB's in this league. I think Manning this past year is the only QB to be making 14% or more of the cap and actually win a Super Bowl. So while it doesn't seem like much it does seem to be a significant number. Now in today's NFL that 2.5% equals around $4 million in actual cap money so no big deal but that is still at least a quality depth guy and depending on the position maybe a decent starter.