AL Central Discussion

[WiggyRuss]

Guess I say that and there's some drama around him now.

Apparently he cleaned out his locker last night. But also hasn't been demoted yet. So no one is sure what exactly happened.

Personally I think you all should put Martinez at short. We've already talked about how his bat looks for potential development. But he's a pretty dog shit centerfielder. I wouldn't keep him there right now.

put Gimenez at SS its his natural position and hes amazing defensively

 

[mr.hockey4242]

put Gimenez at SS its his natural position and hes amazing defensively

I keep seeing people say that for Gimenez eventually but I think that's a bold move to take a platinum glover and move to another position. Sure, Im guessing he'd crush it at SS too. But he's already a sure thing super star defensively at 2B

And considering his bat is going backwards into the depths of trash, idk if you wanna mess with his asset.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Well,

Still mostly playing like ass. And blew numerous chances to lose yesterday and barely win today.

But 2/3 vs Philly. While have massive injury issues. A bullpen day. A rookie. And facing their top 3 starters. Works.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Guards need to make some deals

How long can Gaddis and Clase keep going like this? Right now they have about 90 combined innings for a sub 1 ERA. That is just absurd.

Easily best closer/setup combo in the league---- but they at least need a 1 decent starter and 1 decent bat--- with all the talent flooding into the minor league system from the draft- and having the youngest roster in the league already- they should be able to afford to trade from the top part of their minor leagues.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Good news: Royce and Miranda expected back for Tigers.

Bad news: Correa not even traveling on road trip.

Up in the air: Buxton beaned yesterday. Listed as a contusion. But who knows with that guy.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Guardians fans are banned from calling Gavin Williams any sort of top arm of the future for at least 2 months

3 run homer to javy Baez.

He’s lucky he’s not immediately sent to AA imo

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Holy shit haha

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Holy shit haha

The bait is elite

 

[mr.hockey4242]

The bait is elite

I mean that’s an insane discrepancy

 

[Fountain City Blues]

I mean that’s an insane discrepancy

You can find tail end discrepancies with a lot of players. 90% of the time it is noise. Distribution curves can get janky at the ends, but it’s not a conspiracy per se.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

You can find tail end discrepancies with a lot of players. 90% of the time it is noise. Distribution curves can get janky at the ends, but it’s not a conspiracy per se.

I’m just saying this goes beyond a discrepancy it’s wild

At home he’s Barry Bonds

On the road he’s significantly worse than career Michael Cuddyer

 

[Fountain City Blues]

I’m just saying this goes beyond a discrepancy it’s wild

At home he’s Barry Bonds

On the road he’s significantly worse than career Michael Cuddyer

Not really for a single season. You’re seeing causation that doesn’t exist, imo. Unless Kauffman Stadium suddenly has this god-tier batter’s eye and it only invoked itself this year and for Royals hitters, idk what the there is in this case.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Not really for a single season. You’re seeing causation that doesn’t exist, imo. Unless Kauffman Stadium suddenly has this god-tier batter’s eye and it only invoked itself this year and for Royals hitters, idk what the there is in this case.

Well I mean, the insinuation made online would be the Astros very clearly found a way just for them. Not some mutual batters eye.

As for me, I just said the splits are crazy. Which they objectively are. Not sure how you’re even attempting to argue otherwise.

Whether Witt(or the royals) are cheating isn’t relevant to the fact it’s an absurd split. Maybe it might just mean he’s gonna choke when it matters in a huge road game.

But it’s a bat shit split to have 4 months in. And rightfully can raise questions.

Don’t be offended. Id do cartwheels if Christian Vazquez could have a .1200 OPs at home for the rest of the year while his road numbers hold firm. Bring on the questions.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Well I mean, the insinuation made online would be the Astros very clearly found a way just for them. Not some mutual batters eye.

As for me, I just said the splits are crazy. Which they objectively are. Not sure how you’re even attempting to argue otherwise.

Whether Witt(or the royals) are cheating isn’t relevant to the fact it’s an absurd split. Maybe it might just mean he’s gonna choke when it matters in a huge road game.

But it’s a bat shit split to have 4 months in. And rightfully can raise questions.

Don’t be offended. Id do cartwheels if Christian Vazquez could have a .1200 OPs at home for the rest of the year while his road numbers hold firm. Bring on the questions.

Idk, it just unremarkable the way I think about it. Like, if someone wants to think Witt is a Cuddyer level player on the road, that’s fine by me. Not Barry Bonds at home either. You can find idiosyncratic splits like that all the time. Just hard for me to have a hot take about besides “probably a nothing burger” without a predicate.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Idk, it just unremarkable the way I think about it. Like, if someone wants to think Witt is a Cuddyer level player on the road, that’s fine by me. Not Barry Bonds at home either. You can find idiosyncratic splits like that all the time. Just hard for me to have a hot take about besides “probably a nothing burger” without a predicate.

By all means go ahead and find me splits comparable to Witts on the Guardians, twins or tigers.

Again, its not that there is a difference between something like home and away. Its by how obnoxiously much. And its already been posted how its also a team wide Royals thing.

A guy having a .1200 OPS at home and a .740 OPS on the road over the course of 4 months is definitely not a "all the time" split.

Also, he's a considerably worse Cuddyer on the road. That's how staggering it is.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Pablo Lopez has an ERA over 4.8

His career ERA is 4.00

Pablo Lopez is a good pitcher- but the talk of him being an ace is just not backed up by anything. Pablo Lopez is not an ace.

 

[VikingFan2k2]

By all means go ahead and find me splits comparable to Witts on the Guardians, twins or tigers.

Again, its not that there is a difference between something like home and away. Its by how obnoxiously much. And its already been posted how its also a team wide Royals thing.

A guy having a .1200 OPS at home and a .740 OPS on the road over the course of 4 months is definitely not a "all the time" split.

Also, he's a considerably worse Cuddyer on the road. That's how staggering it is.

Cuddyer did win a batting title. Even enhanced by playing in Colorado, that is still impressive in the twilight of his career.

 

[VikingFan2k2]

Pablo Lopez has an ERA over 4.8

His career ERA is 4.00

Pablo Lopez is a good pitcher- but the talk of him being an ace is just not backed up by anything. Pablo Lopez is not an ace.

He's the closest thing to an Ace that the Twins will get without drafting one (and we've been largely lousy at drafting good pitchers this century).

The team ownership won't commit big money to elite pitching. They view it as too much of a risk due to potential injuries.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Pablo Lopez has an ERA over 4.8

His career ERA is 4.00

Pablo Lopez is a good pitcher- but the talk of him being an ace is just not backed up by anything. Pablo Lopez is not an ace.

I mean, he's been frustrating as hell this year. But this is pretty par the course of you just blindly saying things with no context.

His career ERA is impacted by having a 5.19 as a 23 year old

Since then he's consistently been well under 4 until this year. Where he has a 3.68 FIP and killer advanced metrics across the board

He's also proven to show up in the post season.

Is he a healthy Gerrit Cole ace? No. Would he start game 1 for the Guardians? Yes. Supported by a long track record.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

By all means go ahead and find me splits comparable to Witts on the Guardians, twins or tigers.

Again, its not that there is a difference between something like home and away. Its by how obnoxiously much. And its already been posted how its also a team wide Royals thing.

A guy having a .1200 OPS at home and a .740 OPS on the road over the course of 4 months is definitely not a "all the time" split.

Also, he's a considerably worse Cuddyer on the road. That's how staggering it is.

Jordan Westburg:

147 wRC+ at home
109 wRC+ on the road

Again, you're conflating the tail end of distribution curves with some unusual or discrete thing. There is no such thing besides these are good hitters.