Active HOFers?

[StanMarsh51]

@StanMarsh51 crying over being called an asshole and labeling that as a personal attack is one of the lamest things I have ever seen on here. Lost a little respect for you after reading that.

The whole point of this was pointing out how bad his logic is..not crying at all.


If you were following along....I claimed that homers always resort to personal attacks when they have nothing else, and he's claiming that I made a personal attack first (which I didn't). That's all that happened, as I'm merely stating it's something that homers do when someone doesn't think their hero/team is the greatest thing ever.

When I asked him what personal attack I made, he brought up a post where I basically said his argument was weak (he thinks that was a personal attack).

 

[StanMarsh51]

Morris 6'3 195 31
Santana 6'2 175 34


Enjoyed the conversation...

Translation: I'm not going to answer the question because answering truthfully kills any argument I had.

 

[Nosferatu]

Translation: I'm not going to answer the question because answering truthfully kills any argument I had.

Nah, I'm moving on because you got boring.

 

[PolarVortex]

Agreed, but what does that have to do with baseball?

Nothing to with baseball, but a player's character is supposedly one of the qualifications for the Hall.

 

[ElTexan]

WRC+ Year-end rankings by Trout

2012 1st
2013 2nd
2014 Tied 3rd - 1 point from 1st
2015 3rd
2016 1st
2017 1st
2018 1st

Are y’all gonna apologize to Mike Trout and the baseball god right the fuck now?
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Trick question. Mike Trout IS the baseball god.

 

[PolarVortex]

WRC+ Year-end rankings by Trout

2012 1st
2013 2nd
2014 Tied 3rd - 1 point from 1st
2015 3rd
2016 1st
2017 1st
2018 1st

Are y’all gonna apologize to Mike Trout and the baseball god right the fuck now?
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Trick question. Mike Trout IS the baseball god.

No apology necessary. He needs three more full seasons before he qualifies for the Hall. At that point, if his name does not surface in these types of discussions, then he will be owed an apology.

 

[DragonfromTO]

No apology necessary. He needs three more full seasons before he qualifies for the Hall. At that point, if his name does not surface in these types of discussions, then he will be owed an apology.

He only needs to play one game next season to qualify for the Hall, no?

 

[mr.hockey4242]

You call that a personal attack?

Still waiting for you to admit that Ervin Santana's 2017 was dominant, since it was just as good as Morris' 1986...

Santana 2017 - 3.28 ERA, 135 ERA+, 1.13 WHIP, 2.74 K/BB, .225 BAA, .678 OPS against
Morris 1986 --- 3.27 ERA, 127 ERA+, 1.17 WHIP, 2.72 K/BB, .229 BAA, .690 OPS against

Santana shit the bed with a 3-0 lead in a WC game...immediately.

Fuck that guy

 

[PolarVortex]

He only needs to play one game next season to qualify for the Hall, no?

Good question. I honestly don't know. Does a player simply have to have had statistics in 10 Major league seasons or does he have to show the equivalent of 10 full seasons on an MLB roster.

 

[navamind]

Greinke HOF?

I think he's an easy yes. Pretty durable for his era (over 2700 IP and has been in the top 10 in IP six times, 8 seasons with 200+), strong career numbers (ERA, ERA+, WHIP, K/BB, WAR), a lot of very good/great seasons (eight times he finished in top 10 in WAR and ERA+) with two all-time great years (2009 and 2015). Also a damn good hitter for a pitcher (.223/.263/.331, 59 OPS+, with 27 doubles and 8 home runs in 570 PA)

 

[DragonfromTO]

Good question. I honestly don't know. Does a player simply have to have had statistics in 10 Major league seasons or does he have to show the equivalent of 10 full seasons on an MLB roster.

I'm fairly certain it's the former.

 

[navamind]

Much like Jim Rice.

Rice has no business being in there either. Not going to hear me argue otherwise.

 

[navamind]

But he’s the catcher...I wouldn’t call him a power hitter but he is good at getting timely hits.

Definitely not a power hitter aside from 2012 and maybe a few other years. He was still a damn good hitter for a catcher in his peak (he did have a 114 OPS+ from 2011-16, 130 from 2011-13), but he's also had some years where he was pedestrian and some years (early career primarily) where he was lousy offensively even by catcher standards.

he has a much better case than I would have thought he did though.

 

[Nosferatu]

Rice has no business being in there either. Not going to hear me argue otherwise.

I wasn't expecting that, lolzzz

 

[wazzu31]

Joe Carter and Darryl Strawberry should get in, too.

Well ya, any player who made an impact for just 1 year or is a random WS MVP deserves it more than Harold Baines.

 

[navamind]

Joe Carter would probably be the worst HOF selection of all-time

 

[ElTexan]

He only needs to play one game next season to qualify for the Hall, no?

Correct

 

[calsnowskier]

I think he's an easy yes. Pretty durable for his era (over 2700 IP and has been in the top 10 in IP six times, 8 seasons with 200+), strong career numbers (ERA, ERA+, WHIP, K/BB, WAR), a lot of very good/great seasons (eight times he finished in top 10 in WAR and ERA+) with two all-time great years (2009 and 2015). Also a damn good hitter for a pitcher (.223/.263/.331, 59 OPS+, with 27 doubles and 8 home runs in 570 PA)

This is pretty much where I sit with him. And he passes the sniff test as well (I always viewed him as one of the elites while he was active).

 

[obxyankeefan]

Joe Carter would probably be the worst HOF selection of all-time

Top 10 yeah, but not the worst ever.

 

[broncosmitty]

Y’all gonna be mad when Lester has three more good years, getting into the CY top 5 once more, and gets into the Hall?

Not overly concerned.