Active HOFers?

[jwolt92]

Yeah Gold Gloves have never been very scientific and it seems like it is hard to unseat the incumbent from the previous year(s). And sometimes it seems almost random. I was at the game where Bobby Abreu was awarded his Gold Glove. All Star voting is like that too. 1980 was Mike Schmidt's best year, but for some reason the fans decided that was the year they wanted to see Ken Reitz make his only appearance as a starter.

Oh yeah, it's just an annoying metric to even use for the HOF for some people. Rafael Palmeiro in 1999 stands out as a true WTF moment of the GG award.

 

[Cedrique]

Oh yeah, it's just an annoying metric to even use for the HOF for some people. Rafael Palmeiro in 1999 stands out as a true WTF moment of the GG award.

lol yeah I thought Abreu was bad but that is just embarrassing.

 

[calsnowskier]

Oh yeah, it's just an annoying metric to even use for the HOF for some people. Rafael Palmeiro in 1999 stands out as a true WTF moment of the GG award.

Two words for you…

Derek Fucking Jeter.

 

[calsnowskier]

Joe Panik won a GG in ‘15, and as someone who watched him play every day, he was not anything special in the field. He wasn’t bad, he just wasn’t a “golden glove”. He won that award based on his one AMAZING play in the World Series the previous year.

 

[jwolt92]

Two words for you…

Derek Fucking Jeter.

Worst best? Best worst? defensive SS of all time or just flat out bad? ARod should have been the starting SS there.

 

[navamind]

Worst best? Best worst? defensive SS of all time or just flat out bad? ARod should have been the starting SS there.

I'd just say flat out bad. He was a bad defender, but I think there were worse guys who weren't exposed as much as he was. I think Jeter was fine at fielding the balls he got to, he just didn't get to very many. Ricky Gutierrez, Yuniesky Betancourt, and Hanley Ramirez were pretty awful themselves.

 

[calsnowskier]

I'd just say flat out bad. He was a bad defender, but I think there were worse guys who weren't exposed as much as he was. I think Jeter was fine at fielding the balls he got to, he just didn't get to very many. Ricky Gutierrez, Yuniesky Betancourt, and Hanley Ramirez were pretty awful themselves.

Not being the absolute worst does not a Golden Glove make.

 

[navamind]

Not being the absolute worst does not a Golden Glove make.

Was I defending his Gold Gloves? Because I don't think he was anything close to a GG caliber defender.

 

[calsnowskier]

Was I defending his Gold Gloves? Because I don't think he was anything close to a GG caliber defender.

I wasn’t attacking. Just commenting.

 

[navamind]

I'd also say Goldschmidt should be in. His career is basically Jeff Bagwell Lite. He's already got over 60 WAR and over 35 WAA. 141 OPS+ with good defense and great base running by 1B standards.

 

[saturdaysarebetter]

I think Trout and Harper are in if they retired tomorrow. Cutch didn't have enough really good years although Cutch's overall numbers are putting him in some elite company. The other day he hit his 50th triple and became only the 12th player in MLB history to have 2,000 hits, 400 doubles, 50 triples, 300 home runs and 200 stolen bases. That group consists of: Henry Aaron, Carlos Beltran, Barry Bonds, George Brett, Joe Carter, Andre Dawson, Steve Finley, Willie Mays, Cutch, Frank Robinson, Larry Walker and Dave Winfield. That's some damn good company.

When he hit his 300th home run in April, he become only one of 15 players in MLB history to have scored 1,000 runs, had 2,000 hits, 400 doubles, hit 300 home runs, had more than 1,000 RBIs, stole 200 bases and had a lifetime batting average of .270 or better.

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[eaglesnut]

Yeah Gold Gloves have never been very scientific and it seems like it is hard to unseat the incumbent from the previous year(s). And sometimes it seems almost random. I was at the game where Bobby Abreu was awarded his Gold Glove. All Star voting is like that too. 1980 was Mike Schmidt's best year, but for some reason the fans decided that was the year they wanted to see Ken Reitz make his only appearance as a starter.

Bobby Abreu had a great arm.

Almost as great as his legendary eye at the plate.