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49ers vs GB Game Day Thread: 4:25pm EST

Robotech

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Think about what you just posted and get back to me as to why Kap might not be the issue. ( Remember that the Seahawks have kept near the top with RW and the OL he has had)

Kap is terrible right now. I've never said otherwise. I haven't done the research to compare the offensive line grades of Seattle and San Francisco. Maybe you can present the grades. RW is a near great QB who is elusive. Kap is neither, so he will never be good behind a bad o-line.
 

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Wilson's line is terrible. Wilson is not terrible.

Pretty elementary stuff if you ask me.
 

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Kap is terrible right now. I've never said otherwise. I haven't done the research to compare the offensive line grades of Seattle and San Francisco. Maybe you can present the grades. RW is a near great QB who is elusive. Kap is neither, so he will never be good behind a bad o-line.
From the bolden on your post there is no need for any stats.
 

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From the bolden on your post there is no need for any stats.

Earlier you said that other teams had done well with a similar offensive line. I have an open mind to that assertion. Show me the facts.

Kaep is not good. I'm not trying to say otherwise. I just wanted to see you provide more support for what you said earlier.
 

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Earlier you said that other teams had done well with a similar offensive line. I have an open mind to that assertion. Show me the facts.

Kaep is not good. I'm not trying to say otherwise. I just wanted to see you provide more support for what you said earlier.

Seahawks.
 

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kilgore says he feels good. week 7 return looking good.
 

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what is your definition of worked?
top 5 oline for 3-4 years making it to the super bowl and 3 NFC championship games. have u guys forgot about those years. then we let 1 walk and 1 retired. hence bad oline now.
 

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top 5 oline for 3-4 years making it to the super bowl and 3 NFC championship games. have u guys forgot about those years. then we let 1 walk and 1 retired. hence bad oline now.

And we lost those games due to sub-par to average qb play and lack of talent at the skill positions. Your o-line can give you all the time in the world but if your qb is rifling pass into the ground like he is going hunting for gophers on a golf course you are going to lose.
 

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i blame Kap but overall its the a Oline. we have the worst Oline in the league. no QB has ever had a winning record with the worst Oline. Kap is #3 to blame. 1st oline and then coaching staff
In order of ineptitude, I'd say:
1 Kaepernick
2. Coaching Staff
3. O Line
 

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UOTE="purguy12, post: 7310174, member: 4276"]not true. no QB ever had a winning record with last rank Oline. No QB made playoffs with bottom 5 Oline rank. Its all about Oline and then QB.[/QUOTE]
Qb is the most important position on the field, hands down. The problem for the 49ers is that they have the league's worst QB. Its a death sentence.
 

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Seahawks.

Are we talking about last year's Seahawks line?

If your point is that we should draft someone like Russell Wilson, then yes we should. He's one of the best QBs in the game.
 

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Are we talking about last year's Seahawks line?

If your point is that we should draft someone like Russell Wilson, then yes we should. He's one of the best QBs in the game.

Yes. Last year's Seahawks.

My point is nothing more than to provide you with what you asked for in your quote:

"Earlier you said that other teams had done well with a similar offensive line. I have an open mind to that assertion. Show me the facts."

In that quote, you asked to be shown the facts. Sooo...Seahawks. There you go.
 

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And we lost those games due to sub-par to average qb play and lack of talent at the skill positions. Your o-line can give you all the time in the world but if your qb is rifling pass into the ground like he is going hunting for gophers on a golf course you are going to lose.
disagree 100% with QB play. kap was one of the main reasons. just stop it. if u hate him thats fine but make yourself a joke with those comments. im on board replacing him but thise 2 years he played great in the playoffs just ask GB, Atlanta and raves.
 

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Are we talking about last year's Seahawks line?

If your point is that we should draft someone like Russell Wilson, then yes we should. He's one of the best QBs in the game.
look at wilson with a bad oline he is avg now. he cant carry an offense. yes he is better then Kap but he isnt great with out help. D carried that team and running game.
 

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Yes. Last year's Seahawks.

My point is nothing more than to provide you with what you asked for in your quote:

"Earlier you said that other teams had done well with a similar offensive line. I have an open mind to that assertion. Show me the facts."

Last year's Seahawks offensive was ranked 19th by PFF. Another poster said that we're dead last so far this season.
 

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tough to play with out an Oline. Kap was pressured 70% of the time. no QB would do well with this Oline. it is what it is. Front office screwed up. they screwed up this whole team.
He's pressured so often because he is way too slow to read and understand what a defense is doing. The good QBs are good enough to know where they are going pre-snap based on what the D is showing. Ours hasn't a clue pre-snap.
 
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