21-22 Season - Jekyll or Hyde ?

[lasgop8]

NHL Power Rankings: Best bargain contracts in free agency

Here are the best bargain contracts that have been signed so far this summer.

www.yahoo.com

 

[lasgop8]

Hart smiling about much more than just the money on his new contract

On Monday, Flyers goalie Carter Hart was smiling about much more than just the money on his new contract. By Jordan Hall

www.nbcsports.com

 

[purdue81]

Hart smiling about much more than just the money on his new contract

On Monday, Flyers goalie Carter Hart was smiling about much more than just the money on his new contract. By Jordan Hall

www.nbcsports.com

Rainbows, butterflies and unicorns. Sheesh

 

[awaz]

The NHL’s 10 worst contracts, 2021 edition: Drew Doughty retains his title but Sharks are coming for him

No subjectivity, just math: Ranking how much value each player brings to the table and how short of positive value they are.

theathletic.com

Based on Dom Luszczyszyn's GSVA stat which tries to look at everything. Offense, defense, play driving, luck, on ice teammates.

No Flyers. Seth Jones' new deal #4.

 

[Maverick426h]

His current salary puts him #22 among active goalies.
Next year, he's #18.
Following year, #13.

But, there will be FA goalies and teams keeping goalies that potentially lower those numbers.
If he's being paid as a middle of the pack goalie for the next 3 years, that seems fair.
It's up to him to outperform those numbers.

I think the correct comparison is to other young goalies that have just finished up their entry-level contract and have yet to really prove themselves to be elite for even a full season at the Nhl level. $4M seems like an awful lot to be paying a soon to be 23 year old goalie with 101 games played that is coming off a dreadful, partial season.

Of course his salary isn't excessive when compared to starting goalies that are proven and have track records to show that.

All of that said, this contract is clearly paying him for what we expect him to quickly become. If he miraculously doesn't improve any, this will not be a good signing for us...Lol

I do still believe in Carter Hart though, very much so. The heat is on him now however and I suspect that he wants it that way too.

 

[Maverick426h]

A great comparison to Carter Hart is Mackenzie Blackwood in NJ. His second contract is 3 years at a cap hit of $2.8M per season. We paid almost $1.2M extra per season and I'm not at all sure why, honestly.

If we had done the same for Hart, then there's enough money to keep Sanheim happy with his 3rd contract. Instead, Sanheim could now sign for two years via arbitration and then walk as an UFA. We'd much rather he sign for one season and stay a RFA, but it's out of our control now.

 

[Maverick426h]

I assume that Sanheim's deal won't be decided by arbitration because both parties probably do not want that, and for different reasons.

 

[Sparhawk]

I assume that Sanheim's deal won't be decided by arbitration because both parties probably do not want that, and for different reasons.

Is Sanheim considered expendable because of York and Zemula?
Is the idea to go to arbitration, pay him for one more season, and then let him go or try to trade him???

 

[Maverick426h]

Is Sanheim considered expendable because of York and Zemula?
Is the idea to go to arbitration, pay him for one more season, and then let him go or try to trade him???

I don't expect arbitration to actually decide his contract, it will just put the heat on him to come to an agreement with the Flyers in advance of that. If decided by arbitration, my understanding is that he will get a lot less money and the contract will only be one or two years in length, which will be decided by him. A one year contract keeps him a RFA and if it's a two year contract, he can walk afterwards. I don't think the team feels that he is expendable, we just want to bridge him or sign him long term, so we don't lose him soon.

 

[wbon22]

IMHO the only reason that Sanheim could be seen as expendable is because Fletcher has been clearing out players that Hextall brought in.
Haag, Myers, Ghost (even though he was a Homer draft pick). Also, packing the roster with vets and blocking youngsters from having a clear path to compete for a spot....

 

[lasgop8]

Mall Reinhart signed with the Panthers for 3 years 6.5 per season

 

[awaz]

Is Sanheim considered expendable because of York and Zemula?
Is the idea to go to arbitration, pay him for one more season, and then let him go or try to trade him???

I could definitely see Sanheim ending up somewhere else in the next 2-3 years because of York and Zamula. And maybe that's how Fletcher sees it too. If York in particular, pans out, he should be a top 4 NHL dman. The Flyers wouldn't have space for him, Provorov, and Sanheim. Provorov is locked in and York would be the cheapest of the 3. So Sanheim is expendable.

But not this season. And maybe not next season. So maybe that's where Fletcher sees things. The real need for Sanheim fades away after the next year or two. If they lose Sanheim, even for nothing in free agency, so be it. I suppose it's the other side of the coin to signing Sanheim longer term now and then being forced to keep him and move York down the road because you can't afford to pay 3 top 4 LHD.

So then, like Mav said, team elected arbitration puts Sanheim in a bit of a pickle. If he wants something more than 1-2 years, he's going to have to come at a bargain. Even more so now that Hart took up the surplus cap space. Maybe if he opts for that, the bargain makes it possible to have Provorov, Sanheim, and York without screwing your cap.

 

[lasgop8]

Ironman Yandle sees a ‘stud' in Hart, a win-now chance with Flyers

With an ironman streak approaching the NHL record, new Flyers defenseman Keith Yandle sees a “stud” in Carter Hart and a win-now chance in Philadelphia. By Jordan Hall

www.nbcsports.com

 

[lasgop8]

I could definitely see Sanheim ending up somewhere else in the next 2-3 years because of York and Zamula. And maybe that's how Fletcher sees it too. If York in particular, pans out, he should be a top 4 NHL dman. The Flyers wouldn't have space for him, Provorov, and Sanheim. Provorov is locked in and York would be the cheapest of the 3. So Sanheim is expendable.

But not this season. And maybe not next season. So maybe that's where Fletcher sees things. The real need for Sanheim fades away after the next year or two. If they lose Sanheim, even for nothing in free agency, so be it. I suppose it's the other side of the coin to signing Sanheim longer term now and then being forced to keep him and move York down the road because you can't afford to pay 3 top 4 LHD.

So then, like Mav said, team elected arbitration puts Sanheim in a bit of a pickle. If he wants something more than 1-2 years, he's going to have to come at a bargain. Even more so now that Hart took up the surplus cap space. Maybe if he opts for that, the bargain makes it possible to have Provorov, Sanheim, and York without screwing your cap.

Ill agree with most of this except for losing Sanheim for nothing. A player of his caliber should never be let go for nothing.

 

[mall3013]

Mall Reinhart signed with the Panthers for 3 years 6.5 per season

I think he's going to be a stud in Florida.

 

[lasgop8]

I think he's going to be a stud in Florida.

They for sure got better with this signing

 

[mall3013]

They for sure got better with this signing

I was hoping we got a package deal Reinhart and Risto. Thrilled to get Risto.

 

[lasgop8]

Disney Buys Out NHL’s Stake in Streaming Tech Platform for $350 Million

Disney is paying $350 million to the NHL to buy out the hockey league’s 10 percent stake in Disney Streaming Services, the tech platform owned by Disney that powers its streaming services. The NHL held a buyout option which it exercised on Aug. 3. Disney revealed the buyout as part of its fiscal...

www.yahoo.com

 

[awaz]

Ill agree with most of this except for losing Sanheim for nothing. A player of his caliber should never be let go for nothing.

Oh ya, obviously you don't want to lose him for nothing. But I can see the logic in risking that with a 1-2 year deal now; rather than tying up a bunch of cap and being forced into a move you don't want to make when it comes time to pay York.

When you're going for it, you're going to lose guys for nothing in free agency. Can't sell the free agents you don't plan on re-signing at the deadline because you need them for the run. Sanheim could turn into that "self rental" guy in a couple years.

 

[awaz]

Disney Buys Out NHL’s Stake in Streaming Tech Platform for $350 Million

Disney is paying $350 million to the NHL to buy out the hockey league’s 10 percent stake in Disney Streaming Services, the tech platform owned by Disney that powers its streaming services. The NHL held a buyout option which it exercised on Aug. 3. Disney revealed the buyout as part of its fiscal...

www.yahoo.com

Makes sense. ESPN+ will carry the streams now per the new media agreement. No sense in the NHL maintaining a stake when their product isn't even on it.

Will probably be more expensive than the like $70/season for a 'flyers only' package which is lame. But at least it comes with a lot more.