2025 Draft Talk

[Sharkonabicycle]

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Interesting with Simmons, are you assuming Lucas is not gonna last at right tackle? I can't imagine Stutsman lasting until round 4, it's a weak draft and the LB position isn't deep, so I imagine someone will snag him earlier than he should go as a result.

 

[Screamin12th]

to get a starting Linebacker the Hawks will need to draft one in the 1st or 2nd. To get a starting Guard that can happen in the 3rd or 4th. There is some talent at the linebacker spot but they will be gone before the 2nd round ends. After those guys you got depth players at best.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

to get a starting Linebacker the Hawks will need to draft one in the 1st or 2nd. To get a starting Guard that can happen in the 3rd or 4th. There is some talent at the linebacker spot but they will be gone before the 2nd round ends. After those guys you got depth players at best.

I mean we just spent an early 3rd on a guard and he wasn't even on the active roster against the Rams, lol. Also, this draft is pretty bad (reminds me of the 2009 draft). I think the only chance of a starter is in the 1st or 2nd which is probably like a 2nd or 3rd in most drafts. Bradford was a 4th rounder.... but he's one of the worst (if not the worst) guards in the league.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Also, this draft is pretty bad

Sure seems like it. Especially in area's the Seahawks need help.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Sure seems like it. Especially in area's the Seahawks need help.

Well there's some stuff in areas we need help.

The draft is probably strongest in terms of EDGE/DT/RB (in the 2nd round)/WR. We need 2 of those 4... because I don't expect Reed or Hankins to last much longer, Jones is getting cut (just saying it now), and Nwosu may be gone... so the EDGE/DT needs addressing (again).

The center class is weak, the guard class isn't great but I think there's a lot of OTs which will get moved inside to guard, so we could try that conversion process. Tackle class is weak though so if Lucas doesn't work out, shucks. I wouldn't mind grabbing Tyler Booker (that massive guard from Bama) in the 1st round if we're drafting in the second half... That would be an immediate starter at left guard and maybe we can figure the F what to do with Haynes/Bradford by seasons end.

QB, Safety, ILB, TE are all IMO weak... and CB is so so (Johnson from Michigan is good but he'll prob. be long gone as we're already 5-5), and frankly we have enough invested in the secondary. That's probably why we made the move to get Jones and just start Knight right away, because I don't have any faith they'll find a replacement ILB in the draft. Schneider does have some liking to Ewers from what I've read, who knows. I have to wonder if they'll want to pay Geno $40M next year.

The other problem with this draft from what I've read and just watched in general, is it's just not at the talent level compared to other drafts. So what you spend a 1st on in this draft, would probably be a 2nd in other drafts. Kind of like that 2010 draft class when everyone declared before the restructure. You had guys going in the 2nd that would've gone in the 1st in other drafts (especially 2009 which was a horrible class). Anyway, not the year you want to be picking #1 overall let alone top 10 IMO.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Well there's some stuff in areas we need help.

The draft is probably strongest in terms of EDGE/DT/RB (in the 2nd round)/WR. We need 2 of those 4... because I don't expect Reed or Hankins to last much longer, Jones is getting cut (just saying it now), and Nwosu may be gone... so the EDGE/DT needs addressing (again).

The center class is weak, the guard class isn't great but I think there's a lot of OTs which will get moved inside to guard, so we could try that conversion process. Tackle class is weak though so if Lucas doesn't work out, shucks. I wouldn't mind grabbing Tyler Booker (that massive guard from Bama) in the 1st round if we're drafting in the second half... That would be an immediate starter at left guard and maybe we can figure the F what to do with Haynes/Bradford by seasons end.

QB, Safety, ILB, TE are all IMO weak... and CB is so so (Johnson from Michigan is good but he'll prob. be long gone as we're already 5-5), and frankly we have enough invested in the secondary. That's probably why we made the move to get Jones and just start Knight right away, because I don't have any faith they'll find a replacement ILB in the draft. Schneider does have some liking to Ewers from what I've read, who knows. I have to wonder if they'll want to pay Geno $40M next year.

The other problem with this draft from what I've read and just watched in general, is it's just not at the talent level compared to other drafts. So what you spend a 1st on in this draft, would probably be a 2nd in other drafts. Kind of like that 2010 draft class when everyone declared before the restructure. You had guys going in the 2nd that would've gone in the 1st in other drafts (especially 2009 which was a horrible class). Anyway, not the year you want to be picking #1 overall let alone top 10 IMO.

Well they didn't feel edge rusher was a strength in the draft but other wise they mostly agreed with you. No start able tackle this draft, most of those college tackles will be tried out at guard and they mentioned Booker but had a second round grade on him. No worthy centers, ILB looks thin . They also mentioned Ewers as the type of QB JS likes but consider him a project. Was dang depressing listening to it. Yeah they can fill less pressing needs perhaps but the OL probably isn't getting improved via the draft and ILB likely the same. The team will make cap cuts and raise some cap space but given 20 million per year type contracts for the better FA's it won't go far. 2025 the roster is likely in worse shape then this year with cap cuts and poor draft class combined with inflated costs for FA's in the market.

 

[MrS]

Drew Allar could be a potential mid to late round 1 draft pick, very intriguing player. let him sit behind Geno for one year and see what he has in year 2.

Drew Allar Quarterback Penn State | NFL Draft Profile & Scouting Report

Rating: 83.8 Rank: #7 Forty: 4.90 Allar's physical tools and arm talent make him an intriguing prospect for vertical passing attacks. His size and pocket presence project well to offenses t...

www.nfldraftbuzz.com

 

[Screamin12th]

Drew Allar could be a potential mid to late round 1 draft pick, very intriguing player. let him sit behind Geno for one year and see what he has in year 2.

Drew Allar Quarterback Penn State | NFL Draft Profile & Scouting Report

Rating: 83.8 Rank: #7 Forty: 4.90 Allar's physical tools and arm talent make him an intriguing prospect for vertical passing attacks. His size and pocket presence project well to offenses t...

www.nfldraftbuzz.com

So you think 6-8 of this years QB's will be taken before the 20th pick in the draft???

 

[MrS]

So you think 6-8 of this years QB's will be taken before the 20th pick in the draft???

Which QBs do you like?

 

[Screamin12th]

Which QBs do you like?

Oh i like Allar but not in the 1st. This is another sub par QB Draft i mean look Sanders and Ward are the top 2? yikes. Who knows maybe lots of these guys have success or none do but the talent level just seems to keep getting lower and lower.

I think Allar could be a good QB but he isn't someone you put behind a piss poor Oline. More of a pocket passer and needs time to grow. Geno wont be here next year. Allar i have seen ranked between 6-16 with grades between 18 and 83 out of 100. EIGHTEEN! lol his average grade is low 60's.

 

[Screamin12th]

Ewers is rated higher than Allar and Ewers ( ranked #5 ) is projected to be a mid to late 2nd rounder. I would take Ewers in the late 2nd round if there and If he dropped to the 3rd i would jump on it instantly. For me its all about the value of the pick.

 

[Screamin12th]

I myself would like to see a bigger strong safety taken in the mid to late first.

taken from a mock that has us taking Emmanwori.
Nick Emmanwori’s latest comp is to that of Washington Commanders safety Jeremy Chinn, but that might actually undersell the athleticism and elite traits Emmanwori brings to the table. He’s poised to light up the Combine with his testing numbers and has consistently displayed elite athleticism for South Carolina throughout 2024.

Emmanwori is a true three-down safety with the hard-hitting mindset of an old-school enforcer, reminiscent of the Legion of Boom days.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

I myself would like to see a bigger strong safety taken in the mid to late first.

taken from a mock that has us taking Emmanwori.
Nick Emmanwori’s latest comp is to that of Washington Commanders safety Jeremy Chinn, but that might actually undersell the athleticism and elite traits Emmanwori brings to the table. He’s poised to light up the Combine with his testing numbers and has consistently displayed elite athleticism for South Carolina throughout 2024.

Emmanwori is a true three-down safety with the hard-hitting mindset of an old-school enforcer, reminiscent of the Legion of Boom days.

Disagree on this one. Resign Coby for hopefully cheap (or a small prove it deal), Love is playing great this year... we don't need another fuckin' pick in the secondary. Look if we somehow win the division and are drafting in the 20s and Will Johnson falls that far because teams are stupid, then fine. Since that's not happening, keep Woolen for cheap even though his effort/tackling is terrible (D is starting to come together though, guys are chewing him out, Love beat his ass up last weekend)...

All said, go DL or Guard this draft... we need to replace Reed (or heavily limit his snaps) soon, Williams will be 31, Hankins is old and didn't do much this year... and the interior guard position is a mess. If Olu can hopefully develop into a solid starter, great, but we still have holes at guard. ILB/LBer in this draft is pathetically weak... maybe Mac can find another mid round steal like he did with Knight.

And I know Schneider doesn't like guards early, but this draft class sucks... and a lot of the 'guards' are OTs that are barely first round quality (compared to other drafts) that would switch to guard due to size limitations.

 

[Anointed One]

Disagree on this one. Resign Coby for hopefully cheap (or a small prove it deal), Love is playing great this year... we don't need another fuckin' pick in the secondary. Look if we somehow win the division and are drafting in the 20s and Will Johnson falls that far because teams are stupid, then fine. Since that's not happening, keep Woolen for cheap even though his effort/tackling is terrible (D is starting to come together though, guys are chewing him out, Love beat his ass up last weekend)...

All said, go DL or Guard this draft... we need to replace Reed (or heavily limit his snaps) soon, Williams will be 31, Hankins is old and didn't do much this year... and the interior guard position is a mess. If Olu can hopefully develop into a solid starter, great, but we still have holes at guard. ILB/LBer in this draft is pathetically weak... maybe Mac can find another mid round steal like he did with Knight.

And I know Schneider doesn't like guards early, but this draft class sucks... and a lot of the 'guards' are OTs that are barely first round quality (compared to other drafts) that would switch to guard due to size limitations.

I think we'd have a great shot at a solid tackle with our first round pick... That's where I'd like to spend our pick...

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

I think we'd have a great shot at a solid tackle with our first round pick... That's where I'd like to spend our pick...

Yah, a right tackle or even a guy that can move into guard. I don't have a lot of faith Lucas will hold up let alone get back to the form he was his rookie year... so we need insurance there as well. If he can rebound, great... then we can grab one of the many prospects in the 2025 draft and shift to guard. I don't fault Schneider for TRYING with Fant... our right tackles just couldn't stay healthy. How Bradford is still starting is beyond me. I was super pumped for Haynes but that seems like a wasted pick now. In hindsight Zinter should've been the pick.... Haynes isn't young and has played RG all his life, so the fact he's not starting pretty much makes him a career backup. Again, John had a really bad offseason. It's a miracle this team is 7-5.

Again, DL should not be ignored. Williams and especially Reed/Hankins are getting older... And with Nwosu, he may just be released, which leaves a hole at edge. Thankfully (knock on wood) Jones/Knight/Bryant have all panned out. Those are all B+ starters on the cheap (for now).

 

[MrS]

Oh i like Allar but not in the 1st. This is another sub par QB Draft i mean look Sanders and Ward are the top 2? yikes. Who knows maybe lots of these guys have success or none do but the talent level just seems to keep getting lower and lower.

I agree its a shit QB class, but i think allar works his way up and ends up going mid round 1. dude has all the attributes you want, he just hasnt quite put it together on the field consistently yet. I could see dallas, the rams or pittsburgh targeting him.

I think Allar could be a good QB but he isn't someone you put behind a piss poor Oline. More of a pocket passer and needs time to grow. Geno wont be here next year.

geno will be the qb next year its time to accept that.

Allar i have seen ranked between 6-16 with grades between 18 and 83 out of 100. EIGHTEEN! lol his average grade is low 60's.

we will have to wait and see what happens, but i wouldnt be surprised at all if he rises bigly through the process.

Ewers is rated higher than Allar and Ewers ( ranked #5 ) is projected to be a mid to late 2nd rounder. I would take Ewers in the late 2nd round if there and If he dropped to the 3rd i would jump on it instantly. For me its all about the value of the pick.

there are too many teams in the top 10 right now that need a QB and history shows teams will reach for not great QB prospects out of desperation.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

I agree its a shit QB class, but i think allar works his way up and ends up going mid round 1. dude has all the attributes you want, he just hasnt quite put it together on the field consistently yet. I could see dallas, the rams or pittsburgh targeting him.


geno will be the qb next year its time to accept that.


we will have to wait and see what happens, but i wouldnt be surprised at all if he rises bigly through the process.

there are too many teams in the top 10 right now that need a QB and history shows teams will reach for not great QB prospects out of desperation.

You have to remember Allar is working with basically a D3 type receiving core. Outside of their stud TE and solid RBs, the WRs suck. Now give him Walker and our WRs, I think he would do well here.

 

[Screamin12th]

You have to remember Allar is working with basically a D3 type receiving core. Outside of their stud TE and solid RBs, the WRs suck. Now give him Walker and our WRs, I think he would do well here.

Our skill groups would 100% help a new QB look better. These guys can carry a competent QB and have made Geno look servicable even with all his flaws.

Now is the time ... well its past time to get a young guy playing. They should have had the young guys (QB's) I dont care who they are, playing all ready. Having your QB grow with your "YOUNG" team is a good thing.

 

[cdumler7]

to get a starting Linebacker the Hawks will need to draft one in the 1st or 2nd. To get a starting Guard that can happen in the 3rd or 4th. There is some talent at the linebacker spot but they will be gone before the 2nd round ends. After those guys you got depth players at best.

LB is one of the hardest positions to draft. so much of what makes a guy successful in college doesn't translate to the NFL at the position. It is why so many of the top guys in the league are found in midround area.

Fred Warner--3rd round pick.
Demario Davis--3rd round
Zack Baun--3rd round
Bobby Wagner--Round 2
JOK--2nd round
Payton Wilson--3rd round

I could keep going...but if you look at draft trends there isn't this huge drop off from guys taken in the 1st compared to their success to a guy taken in the 3rd round and their rate of success.

 

[Screamin12th]

Linebacker is one of the thinnest position groups in this draft. Not very deep this year. A 3rd this year is back-up at best quality. Thankfully our linebackers on the team have improved with the replacements Knight and Jones.

I want SS Nick Emmanwori. This guy is the prototypical in the box SS like Kam was but faster.