2025 Draft Talk

[MrS]

One thing I would like to point out is the play of Russell Wilson. Everyone said he was cooked because his game relied on his legs and he couldn't run anymore. They said that he made the OL look bad. But then he starts playing for a competent OL with a very good D and he looks night and day better.

QB is the most important single position in football. But too many fans tend to dismiss the importance of the rest of the team and think that a QB can turn around a team on his own.

He is also counting almost 0 against their cap

 

[flyerhawk]

He is also counting almost 0 against their cap

True

 

[Screamin12th]

How can someone say they know who Geno is then defend them with SUCH PASSION?

Geno is
SUB average in field vision
SUB average in play recognition
SUB average in reading defenses.
SUB Average in progression
SUB average at throwing to the open guy ( lol )
SUB Average in Time to throw
Above average arm strength
Above average accuracy

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

How can someone say they know who Geno is then defend them with SUCH PASSION?

Geno is
SUB average in field vision
SUB average in play recognition
SUB average in reading defenses.
SUB Average in progression
SUB average at throwing to the open guy ( lol )
SUB Average in Time to throw
Above average arm strength
Above average accuracy

 

[Screamin12th]

lol and i was being nice. I could talk about his turn over issues, or how he tends to always commit those turnovers at the WORST possible time. Then there is the fact he never looks off his intended reciever (locks in on them from the snap ) 90% of the time drawing the defense there. Or he takes sacks when he should have and very easily COULD HAVE thrown the ball away. Or that he refuses to use his legs when the option is there. He could REALLY help himself if 3 or 4 times a game he rushes for those open yards and possible first downs.

 

[Screamin12th]

We get to see some of the better college QB's go at it for the rest of the college playoffs. Who is everyone going to key in on? Ewers had a bad game in my eyes this past week. I still have not seen a QB i would spend a 1st or 2nd on honestly. This group is sad and its hard to even see players with "promise" oh well. QB is SUPER thin on actual talent, Linebackers is also thin on bodies. I have seen some talented TE and RB this season but nothing im excited about or that i would use a 1st or 2nd on. DE/pass rushers looks thick but we have those type guys in spades on this team. Bryant is getting better and better playing as safety and Love is just doing his thing but we could afford an upgrade if the option is there. The team could use a true in the box safety, these guys are hard to find that play at high levels but there are options here in the 2025 draft. CB is deep on this team but also not out of the question for some depth here but thats 4-6th round type guys.

I still think you need to dump salary so try as best as you can to trade DK. BUT! If they do then they need to spend a pick on a WR in the 1st or 2nd rounds but the cap savings and possible value in my eyes makes this an intriguing option. There are some talented WR's that for sure. The players that will be available change drastically depending on where we pick. The Seahawks could land anywhere between like 15 and well 32 but thats highly unlikely lol but still could be more than a 10 spot difference.

Oline is possible but JS and the FO have proven they cant pick Olineman. The amount of money the Hawks are spending on the IDL is a little high ( 2nd highest paid position group on the team ) So drafting another IDL seems like a reach at best if i had to take a guess. With the WR group being the Highest paid group on the team it goes with out saying something is going to happen there.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

We get to see some of the better college QB's go at it for the rest of the college playoffs. Who is everyone going to key in on? Ewers had a bad game in my eyes this past week. I still have not seen a QB i would spend a 1st or 2nd on honestly. This group is sad and its hard to even see players with "promise" oh well. QB is SUPER thin on actual talent, Linebackers is also thin on bodies. I have seen some talented TE and RB this season but nothing im excited about or that i would use a 1st or 2nd on. DE/pass rushers looks thick but we have those type guys in spades on this team. Bryant is getting better and better playing as safety and Love is just doing his thing but we could afford an upgrade if the option is there. The team could use a true in the box safety, these guys are hard to find that play at high levels but there are options here in the 2025 draft. CB is deep on this team but also not out of the question for some depth here but thats 4-6th round type guys.

I still think you need to dump salary so try as best as you can to trade DK. BUT! If they do then they need to spend a pick on a WR in the 1st or 2nd rounds but the cap savings and possible value in my eyes makes this an intriguing option. There are some talented WR's that for sure. The players that will be available change drastically depending on where we pick. The Seahawks could land anywhere between like 15 and well 32 but thats highly unlikely lol but still could be more than a 10 spot difference.

Oline is possible but JS and the FO have proven they cant pick Olineman. The amount of money the Hawks are spending on the IDL is a little high ( 2nd highest paid position group on the team ) So drafting another IDL seems like a reach at best if i had to take a guess. With the WR group being the Highest paid group on the team it goes with out saying something is going to happen there.

This group of QBs is awful. It doesn't even have a Matt Stafford guy who was one of the few highlights of the last worst draft class I can remember (2009, before one of the best draft classes since everyone declared when they did the rookie pay restructure a year later lol).

I'd probably take a flyer on Ewers in the 3rd.... if he's there. His throwing motion is eerily similar to Rodgers and Schneider has some link to him (and does have a track record of drafting good QBs). I'm not saying Ewers is going to be the next Rodgers btw - just saying their throwing motions are similar. 1st and 2nd should be spent on guard, DL - which have SOME decent prospects in the first couple rounds.

Ewers IMO also needs a year+ to sit if he ever does go anywhere in the NFL in terms of starting. He's got the right throw, the athleticism needed to be an elite pocket QB, but his footwork/decision making needs a large amount of help. You CAN teach those things, but it takes some time.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

As noted a weak draft for QBs but some teams are going to draft a QB any how I would bet, Jets, Browns, Raiders, Giants, Saints, are a few teams in need at QB and they all will be drafting ahead of the Seahawks and there are other teams that could be interested in drafting a QB like the Titans or Cowboys or Rams. So I'd be surprised if the Seahawks draft a QB in 2025, not a lot to choose from and a slew of teams in need of a QB drafting ahead of the Seahawks. Not being in position to draft a quality QB is going to be a on going problem for the Seahawks as I feel they'll be drafting at pick 20 or later for the foreseeable future and there will always be teams in need of a QB drafting ahead of them. Moving up from pick 5 would of been expensive as heck, moving up from 20 or later would/will be much more expensive if it could even be done in this QB hunger league which means the Seahawks will be using failed retreads at QB going forward most likely. This is what the Seahawks signed up for when they didn't make a move up in the draft while they were close enough to make it feasible.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

As noted a weak draft for QBs but some teams are going to draft a QB any how I would bet, Jets, Browns, Raiders, Giants, Saints, are a few teams in need at QB and they all will be drafting ahead of the Seahawks and there are other teams that could be interested in drafting a QB like the Titans or Cowboys or Rams. So I'd be surprised if the Seahawks draft a QB in 2025, not a lot to choose from and a slew of teams in need of a QB drafting ahead of the Seahawks. Not being in position to draft a quality QB is going to be a on going problem for the Seahawks as I feel they'll be drafting at pick 20 or later for the foreseeable future and there will always be teams in need of a QB drafting ahead of them. Moving up from pick 5 would of been expensive as heck, moving up from 20 or later would/will be much more expensive if it could even be done in this QB hunger league which means the Seahawks will be using failed retreads at QB going forward most likely. This is what the Seahawks signed up for when they didn't make a move up in the draft while they were close enough to make it feasible.

Agreed with everything you're saying....

That said, it's going to be interesting going forward. I know the cap keeps going up and people keep saying, "BUT THE CAP IS GOING UP!" but at some point IMO with QBs it's gonna hit a breaking point. At what point does it just become easier to sign a decent QB to the team and spend money elsewhere?

We just saw: Lawrence, Watson, Jones, Prescott, Tua (decent QB but is one concussion away from a wheelchair)... I guess Jackson is still decent but one leg injury basically wrecks his game.

It's the same reason I really don't want to sign DK to a huge deal. I think the QB market is gonna fall out. The good news is IMO I think Seattle is coming into that fallout at exactly the right time. I don't think anyone is going to pay big for QBs this offseason.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I don't think anyone is going to pay big for QBs this offseason

Sam Darnold will get paid and there isn't another attractive QB (many don't think Darnold is attractive) in the market.



I think the Seahawks march out the same QBs they have now in 2025. Likely try to do something with Geno's contract to make him more affordable in 2025.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Sam Darnold will get paid and there isn't another attractive QB (many don't think Darnold is attractive) in the market.

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I think the Seahawks march out the same QBs they have now in 2025. Likely try to do something with Geno's contract to make him more affordable in 2025.

Really Harold? You couldn't clip out Dalton with your screenshot? Now we have to deal with chaney... .......................

 

[JMR]

I think there are going to be some QB names on the market beyond just Sam Darnold who will be attractive to multiple teams. If the Vikings pay Darnold, Daniel Jones is going somewhere. Say what you want about Jones, but there is no reason to think he can't have an arc like Darnold in a better situation than what he had in NY.

Russell Wilson is not under contract for 2025 and is currently a starter playing well for a contender. If Pittsburgh gives him a deal, it probably means Justin Fields is out there. If other formerly highly touted QBs can be successful once they find themselves in better situations than where they were drafted by the dregs of the league, then why can't Fields?

Is it out of the question that Atlanta might ditch Cousins? It wouldn't be an unprecedented dead cap move, and they just drafted Penix really high. The way things are going there, Penix might even start a game or 2 before the end of the season.

No motivation to go the mat over any specific names, but it's inevitable that there will be multiple "attractive" free agent QBs on the market this off-season. Still possible Geno Smith could be one of them.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

 

[MrS]

some teams are going to draft a QB any how I would bet, Jets, Browns, Raiders, Giants, Saints, are a few teams in need at QB and they all will be drafting ahead of the Seahawks

some people will be surprised when Qbs like nussmeier and allar go in the top half of round 1.
But it wont really be that surprising with so many poorly run teams desperate for QBs.

We get to see some of the better college QB's go at it for the rest of the college playoffs. Who is everyone going to key in on?

Allar, he made some impressive throws against oregon and some bad ones too but he has the tools. I know you think its crazy, but i think he goes in round 1 and not at the bottom of it.

 

[Anointed One]

I don't buy into the "Weak Draft Class" talk... Remember in 2017, when P. Mahomes draft was considered weak? They felt he was a reach at #10... D. Watson was #12... 2018 draft class wasn't considered to very good either... J. Allen, L. Jackson, turned out to be pretty good... B. Mayfield has shown life as well of late...

Remember how 2007 QB draft was supposed to be phenomenal? J. Russel and B. Quinn turned out to be duds...

Point is, you pick the right QB to fit into your system, you're going to be good to go... We got RW in the 3rd and he wasn't considered to be a franchise QB by any means but he fit our system very well, obviously...

 

[MrS]

Jalen milroe will not enter the draft, qb pickings get slimmer.

 

[MrS]

About 19 minutes in rob staton says he thinks seahawks will draft drew allar, in round 2. I think he goes higher than that.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

some people will be surprised when Qbs like nussmeier and allar go in the top half of round 1.
But it wont really be that surprising with so many poorly run teams desperate for QBs.


Allar, he made some impressive throws against oregon and some bad ones too but he has the tools. I know you think its crazy, but i think he goes in round 1 and not at the bottom of it.

Unless he wins the Natty, I don't think he forgoes his senior year.

 

[MrS]

this guy would be a good piece to our DL:

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Rating: 85.1 Rank: #23 Forty: 5.10 <p> Deone Walker brings an impressive blend of size, power, and agility to the table, making him a standout defensive lineman prospect. His ability to...

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6'6 345

 

[Screamin12th]

I don't buy into the "Weak Draft Class" talk... Remember in 2017, when P. Mahomes draft was considered weak? They felt he was a reach at #10... D. Watson was #12... 2018 draft class wasn't considered to very good either... J. Allen, L. Jackson, turned out to be pretty good... B. Mayfield has shown life as well of late...

Remember how 2007 QB draft was supposed to be phenomenal? J. Russel and B. Quinn turned out to be duds...

Point is, you pick the right QB to fit into your system, you're going to be good to go... We got RW in the 3rd and he wasn't considered to be a franchise QB by any means but he fit our system very well, obviously...

so really one guy doing something and its not a weak class? What about the other guys? Kizer, Webb, Beathard, Dobbs, Peterman, Kaaya, Kelly, Trubisky? That was a shit class that got a super star out of it. Watson was servicable with flashes. NOTHING after those two worth mentioning Yes this was a shit class.

Mahomes never got #1 buzz hype but was always looked at as a top 8-15 pick thats not a reach. Nothing in his callege career said he would turn into "This guy". Andy Reid is a big reason he has become a special player. Mahomes had a stellar final season in college we all saw it but he was a 63-65% guy. If he was in this draft and NO ONE knew he would be who he is now he would still be the #1 pick. Easy

Not like the His college team did much though. Andy Reid made this guy better.

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