2024 Trade Deadline

[tzill]

Exactly why we should be sellers. Its a sellers market like I've never seen.

 

[LHG]

This is the Pirates' owner, and it is June 22nd, so I take this with a big grain of salt:

Pirates Owner Bob Nutting Discusses Deadline Outlook

The race for the final two Wild Card spots in the National League is quickly becoming a dogfight, and the …

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[LHG]

Giants Chairman Discusses Deadline, Signings, "Inconsistent" First Half

With a 40-44 record, the Giants sit in fourth place in the NL West but also still within striking distance …

www.mlbtraderumors.com

 

[calsnowskier]

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@msgkings322 ??

 

[LHG]

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@msgkings322 ??

I hear the White Sox are willing to trade all the furnishings in their stadium, along with every rostered player and any fans that could fetch money in return.

 

[msgkings322]

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@msgkings322 ??

I don’t follow them very closely but he’s their legit best established pitcher and they are probably dealing him. Not sure pitching is where we should spend our assets in this seller’s market. Let other teams overpay for something we supposedly have enough of when healthy. Would love to get Luis Robert obviously

 

[calsnowskier]

I bring him up because I saw an article linking him to the Giants.

I agree that going after an Ace-typepitcher probably doesn’t make a lot of sense, though.

 

[LHG]

I don’t follow them very closely but he’s their legit best established pitcher and they are probably dealing him. Not sure pitching is where we should spend our assets in this seller’s market. Let other teams overpay for something we supposedly have enough of when healthy. Would love to get Luis Robert obviously

Crotchet will net them a big return. I agree with you, the Giants shouldn't invest there (but the counter argument would be that the Giants need starting pitching because only Webb seems to stay healthy).
I don't know what to think about Robert's likelihood of being traded this year. The White Sox seem hell bent on gutting their roster. But Robert is clearly having a down year, lowering his trade value. Do the White Sox stand ground and not reduce the asking price? Will a team give in to that asking price? Or will the White Sox stand pat and not deal him, considering he has years of control left?

 

[msgkings322]

Crotchet will net them a big return. I agree with you, the Giants shouldn't invest there (but the counter argument would be that the Giants need starting pitching because only Webb seems to stay healthy).
I don't know what to think about Robert's likelihood of being traded this year. The White Sox seem hell bent on gutting their roster. But Robert is clearly having a down year, lowering his trade value. Do the White Sox stand ground and not reduce the asking price? Will a team give in to that asking price? Or will the White Sox stand pat and not deal him, considering he has years of control left?

 

[LHG]

Considering his injuries and his lack of production this year, I'm be concerned about the Giants paying the full price the White Sox likely would want. However, if they are willing to reduce the return considering his troubles, it may be a good get for the Giants. Still not sure, even in that market, we would want to do what it takes to get that trade completed. Other teams would easily outbid and the Giants shouldn't give the full asking price (and then some) if another team wants to overpay.

 

[msgkings322]

Considering his injuries and his lack of production this year, I'm be concerned about the Giants paying the full price the White Sox likely would want. However, if they are willing to reduce the return considering his troubles, it may be a good get for the Giants. Still not sure, even in that market, we would want to do what it takes to get that trade completed. Other teams would easily outbid and the Giants shouldn't give the full asking price (and then some) if another team wants to overpay.

Yes, Giants will have to pay up in this market for a bat, even if it's not that one. Hopefully they make a good deal for someone, I don't want them to stand pat.

 

[LHG]

Yes, Giants will have to pay up in this market for a bat, even if it's not that one. Hopefully they make a good deal for someone, I don't want them to stand pat.

I'm in the middle between you and tzill. I think its too early to decide to sell but I'm not convinced the team should buy either. Based on that MLBTR article I posted, I get the feeling that the team's ownership is in the same mode of thought (but Johnson did say that he defers to FZ on that).

 

[msgkings322]

I'm in the middle between you and tzill. I think its too early to decide to sell but I'm not convinced the team should buy either. Based on that MLBTR article I posted, I get the feeling that the team's ownership is in the same mode of thought (but Johnson did say that he defers to FZ on that).

Well sure, the next few weeks if they keep playing like they did 2 weeks ago and can't get healthy no reason to be buyers. If they play like the last week and are right there in the wild card hunt then, they should buy. Decisions don't have to be made yet.

 

[SF11704]

Well sure, the next few weeks if they keep playing like they did 2 weeks ago and can't get healthy no reason to be buyers. If they play like the last week and are right there in the wild card hunt then, they should buy. Decisions don't have to be made yet.

The next 6 games are on the road and against very good teams. This should shed some light on just where the Giants are hraded. 3-3 would be acceptable. Anything less wouldn't be a show stopper ... but it would make you stop and wonder..

 

[sf1giantfan]

The next 6 games are on the road and against very good teams. This should shed some light on just where the Giants are hraded. 3-3 would be acceptable. Anything less wouldn't be a show stopper ... but it would make you stop and wonder..

How about 2-4, with the losses being close and having bad calls by umps?

 

[tzill]

The next 6 games are on the road and against very good teams. This should shed some light on just where the Giants are hraded. 3-3 would be acceptable. Anything less wouldn't be a show stopper ... but it would make you stop and wonder..

I've been thinking about this. They are 3 games below .500 and need to climb over three teams to get the third WC. They are going on the road vs. two division leaders.

3-3 would be, IMO a very good trip.
2-4 I'd expect. That would leave them 5 games below .500 with a week to the ASB. 6 games at home vs. Toronto and the Twins, ASB, 7 game roadie in Denver and LA, then 4 at home vs. the Rox. I could see them at .500 at the deadline...sitting just out of the WC. I could see a strategy of standing pat.

A lot depends upon how Snell, Harry, Ray and Cobb look by then. If I squint really hard I can kinda see contending for a playoff spot, but I wouldn't trade away Harry, Luci, Matos, Ramos, Whiz, Eldridge, Birdsong to shore up the hitting.

Just not the year to be buyers. OTOH, by keeping all the kids and trading Forto, Chapman, Soler, Snell we could really have something in 2025

 

[SF11704]

How about 2-4, with the losses being close and having bad calls by umps?

While I understand the reasoning ... at this stsge of the season a loss is still a loss no matter how it happened. I think ATL has the 1st WC position locked. So we have 5 or more teams fighting for the last 2 WCs. I'm guessimg you will need about 85 wins for one of those positions. That's not an easy reach for us. Not impossible, but not easy either. July will be a very interesting month for us Giant fans ...

 

[tzill]

While I understand the reasoning ... at this stsge of the season a loss is still a loss no matter how it happened. I think ATL has the 1st WC position locked. So we have 5 or more teams fighting for the last 2 WCs. I'm guessimg you will need about 85 wins for one of those positions. That's not an easy reach for us. Not impossible, but not easy either. July will be a very interesting month for us Giant fans ...

Determinative, even.

 

[LHG]

Tim Anderson is available

Marlins To Designate Tim Anderson For Assignment

The Marlins designated struggling veteran shortstop Tim Anderson for assignment on Tuesday. Read more about the move at MLB Trade Rumors.

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[calsnowskier]

He was a legit superstar 2 years ago and now can’t hold on to a job. Dude has all the talent in the world, but he has a $0.02 head.