2024 Trade Deadline

[msgkings322]

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Play Matos and Slater.

Matos sure. Slater? Only vs lefties

 

[sf1giantfan]

Matos sure. Slater? Only vs lefties

Slater just hit a home run against a righty, so I guess he is cured.

 

[msgkings322]

Slater just hit a home run against a righty, so I guess he is cured.

That’d be great!

 

[tzill]

Brett Wisely has made some nice improvements in terms of quality of contact compared to last year 90.4 MPH EV (85.9 MPH in 2023)
45.3% hard-hit rate (32.9% in 2023)
13.2% barrel rate (7.3% in 2023)
37.7% LA sweep spot rate (31.7% in 2023)

 

[calsnowskier]

Brett Wisely has made some nice improvements in terms of quality of contact compared to last year 90.4 MPH EV (85.9 MPH in 2023)
45.3% hard-hit rate (32.9% in 2023)
13.2% barrel rate (7.3% in 2023)
37.7% LA sweep spot rate (31.7% in 2023)

This numbers mean nothing to me. Just because he has improved does not mean he is anything real. What are those numbers in relation to the league?

And I assume “LA sweep spot” is a joke, but when you speak Greek, the accent makes jokes hard to understand.

 

[sf1giantfan]

It means another minor leaguer is upstaging the over priced major league players we have playing for us.

 

[tzill]

This numbers mean nothing to me. Just because he has improved does not mean he is anything real. What are those numbers in relation to the league?

And I assume “LA sweep spot” is a joke, but when you speak Greek, the accent makes jokes hard to understand.

I think the only point here is that he's hitting the ball harder, barreling it up better, and getting the sweet spot of the bat on the ball more frequently.

Sorry about the typo. LA SWEET spot = Launch Angle Sweet Spot.

 

[tzill]

Thairo Estrada is 2nd in baseball with +10 OAA. Only Marcus Semien and Bobby Witt Jr. (+11 OAA apiece) have a better mark in that category.

 

[calsnowskier]

Thairo Estrada is 2nd in baseball with +10 OAA. Only Marcus Semien and Bobby Witt Jr. (+11 OAA apiece) have a better mark in that category.

This is what makes me scratch my head. Estrada does not pass the eye test as being an ELITE defensive 2B. He is good, sure, but FAR from elite. Yet analytics say he is elite. And analytics said that Belt was slightly above average, but the eye test told me he was just south of JT territory.

 

[tzill]

This is what makes me scratch my head. Estrada does not pass the eye test as being an ELITE defensive 2B. He is good, sure, but FAR from elite. Yet analytics say he is elite. And analytics said that Belt was slightly above average, but the eye test told me he was just south of JT territory.

two things:

1. Estrada makes all the routine to difficult plays almost every time. He also makes some elite plays, but as you say not all the time.
2. Belt was very similar. And I believe the metrics had him well above average.

 

[calsnowskier]

two things:

1. Estrada makes all the routine to difficult plays almost every time. He also makes some elite plays, but as you say not all the time.
2. Belt was very similar. And I believe the metrics had him well above average.

Belt never recorded a BRef dWAR over 0.4, and has a career dWAR of -3.8. I have never found a defensive metric that matched my eyes, so I don’t really pay attention to them. It seems to me there is too much subjectiveness applied to defensive metrics, so I just can’t get behind them.

However, I don’t discount the possibility that my eyes are not the best gauge of MLB talent, and maybe Belt wasn’t as good as my orange-tinted glasses made him appear.

But I don’t see a GG-level defender when I see Estrada and I didn’t see one when I saw Panik either.

 

[LHG]

Belt never recorded a BRef dWAR over 0.4, and has a career dWAR of -3.8. I have never found a defensive metric that matched my eyes, so I don’t really pay attention to them. It seems to me there is too much subjectiveness applied to defensive metrics, so I just can’t get behind them.

However, I don’t discount the possibility that my eyes are not the best gauge of MLB talent, and maybe Belt wasn’t as good as my orange-tinted glasses made him appear.

But I don’t see a GG-level defender when I see Estrada and I didn’t see one when I saw Panik either.

Hey, is that someone over there on your yard?

 

[calsnowskier]

Hey, is that someone over there on your yard?

DAMNED KIDS!!!

 

[Sandisfan]

Belt never recorded a BRef dWAR over 0.4, and has a career dWAR of -3.8. I have never found a defensive metric that matched my eyes, so I don’t really pay attention to them. It seems to me there is too much subjectiveness applied to defensive metrics, so I just can’t get behind them.

However, I don’t discount the possibility that my eyes are not the best gauge of MLB talent, and maybe Belt wasn’t as good as my orange-tinted glasses made him appear.

But I don’t see a GG-level defender when I see Estrada and I didn’t see one when I saw Panik either.

That's a name I haven't heard in a long time..... He had an interesting career he was drafted high then became a bust, then did very well in the Bigs and performed at a high level, then became a bust again.

 

[calsnowskier]

That's a name I haven't heard in a long time..... He had an interesting career he was drafted high then became a bust, then did very well in the Bigs and performed at a high level, then became a bust again.

I honestly don’t really remember him ever being a bust. He advanced aggressively, but I don’t remember being overly shocked by it. He disappeared because he broke his back. That tends to effect a professional athletes career…

 

[tzill]

I honestly don’t really remember him ever being a bust. He advanced aggressively, but I don’t remember being overly shocked by it. He disappeared because he broke his back. That tends to effect a professional athletes career…

Joey Dozens was a legend and I will cut anyone who disagrees.

 

[LHG]

Joey Dozens was a legend and I will cut anyone who disagrees.

tzill whenever someone insults Susac or Panik:

 

[tzill]

Ramos currently leads all NL outfielders in WAR, according to Baseball-Reference.

 

[LHG]

Ramos currently leads all NL outfielders in WAR, according to Baseball-Reference.

He has quietly become a force in the NL. Glad it was the Giants who finally gave him a chance for regular play in MLB.

 

[Sandisfan]

There is distinct possibility that without Lee and other injuries that he would never have gotten his shot here and would have been a terrible loss to this Meh roster.

Ramos currently leads all NL outfielders in WAR, according to Baseball-Reference.

He has quietly become a force in the NL. Glad it was the Giants who finally gave him a chance for regular play in MLB.

Imagine if you will if he didn't get his Chance here and him going to a rival whether in Division or like Stl. or other hated rivals.