2024 NBA Offseason

[DJ Fieri]

Luka had a great playoff run.

Record setting actually.

 

[shopson67]

He had to be a little intrigued to play with Wemby

...and intrigued to get more than a vet min or TPMLE

 

[fightinfunbags]

I have no doubt it will take 3 picks to get Markkanen

I think it’s going to take more than that.

 

[shopson67]

One of the things I like the most that Presti has done is with guys like Dort, Joe and Wiggins. Joe and Wiggins were under contract cheap this year. Presti tore up the contracts and gave them both multi year deals. Same thing with Dort. A lot of trust building has taken place.

He's also getting them locked up longer ahead of FA competition and establishing solid trade chips if needed.

 

[shopson67]

They are the same as the Cavs. They will only go as far as their young players take them. We know both have stars but those #2 and #3 guys will define their fate

They are the same as the Cavs if you squint and blur your vision maybe. Thunder have far more upside and added two much needed pieces this offseason to a team that had already surpassed the Cavs.

We've already seen that the Cavs roster hasn't been ideal with Garland and Mitchell in the backcourt and Mobley/Allen down low. They had the opportunity to diversify this summer and declined. I think they've plateaued as currently constructed.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

So your franchise doesn’t exist to help the Lakers?

Surprisingly no

 

[shopson67]

I think it’s going to take more than that.

Yeah, 3 or more is the more accurate statement. Depends on the quality of the picks. Those heavily protected picks the Knicks own for example are basically 2nds. With Mark's affordable contract, the focus will be more on quality of the picks and prospects over simple salary matching.

 

[shopson67]

Am I delusional? How are you getting draft assets from finding a taker for Wiggins? That’s a negative asset.

 

[shopson67]

put those two together....Knicks are likely the team that offered 2 firsts (and they were heavily protected)

 

[DJ Fieri]

...and intrigued to get more than a vet min or TPMLE

If things go sideways get could even get flipped at the deadline. Injuries and the season doesn't go as planned.

The '25 draft is pretty damn good.

 

[DJ Fieri]

put those two together....Knicks are likely the team that offered 2 firsts (and they were heavily protected)

Or it was Danny doing what he does best.

Try to drive up trade value for his players.....LOL.

 

[shopson67]

BI is tripping

You gotta start high, but nobody is giving him that for 50-60 games per season. If he comes out and plays 70+ this season, people may reconsider somewhat.

 

[ducky]

Am I delusional? How are you getting draft assets from finding a taker for Wiggins? That’s a negative asset.

Wiggins isnt a negative asset. Not a huge positive but certainly not a negative. A wing that will play decent D and score in the 12-15 range.

And his contract now is only 3 years and $75M and it expires when he is 31 so it is not like his skills will decline much during those 3 years. That is appropriate for a decent wing.

A good example of how a near max contract signed today will start to look like a more reasonable deal a couple years from now.

 

[shopson67]

Walker Kessler for a 1st and a 2nd maybe....but no way he is worth 2 1st rounders.

Trader Danny at it again.....LOL.

One unprotected first likely gets it done.

 

[shopson67]

Surprisingly no

That's what everyone thinks, but eventually succumbs

 

[DJ Fieri]

Wiggins isnt a negative asset. Not a huge positive but certainly not a negative. A wing that will play decent D and score in the 12-15 range.

And his contract now is only 3 years and $75M and it expires when he is 31 so it is not like his skills will decline much during those 3 years. That is appropriate for a decent wing.

A good example of how a near max contract signed today will start to look like a more reasonable deal a couple years from now.

Mentally, he hasn't been locked in is the main problem.

 

[shopson67]

Wiggins isnt a negative asset. Not a huge positive but certainly not a negative. A wing that will play decent D and score in the 12-15 range.

And his contract now is only 3 years and $75M and it expires when he is 31 so it is not like his skills will decline much during those 3 years. That is appropriate for a decent wing.

A good example of how a near max contract signed today will start to look like a more reasonable deal a couple years from now.

If he's past his personal issues and can be relied upon, perhaps.

 

[fightinfunbags]

They are the same as the Cavs if you squint and blur your vision maybe. Thunder have far more upside and added two much needed pieces this offseason to a team that had already surpassed the Cavs.

We've already seen that the Cavs roster hasn't been ideal with Garland and Mitchell in the backcourt and Mobley/Allen down low. They had the opportunity to diversify this summer and declined. I think they've plateaued as currently constructed.

The summer isn’t over yet though. They needed to hire a coach and lock up Donovan Mitchell as their first priorities.

 

[shopson67]

The summer isn’t over yet though. They needed to hire a coach and lock up Donovan Mitchell as their first priorities.

Sure, but it seems they are standing pat with their top 4. A little work around the margins isn't going to make drastic improvement IMO (not at a Thunder level).

 

[DJ Fieri]

Sure, but it seems they are standing pat with their top 4. A little work around the margins isn't going to make drastic improvement IMO (not at a Thunder level).

They could always make a move at the deadline.