2023 NE Patriots Draft

[YankeeRebel]

Not sure who they have on staff. It won't be Patricia. Maybe whomever they bring in? BB has had good luck drafting and finding FA Olinemen. Was it Ernie, Scar, Josh? Maybe a combo of them all?

The combine showcases athleticism. Sure it give the evaluators something else to use in their evaluation, but it doesn't hold as much weight as their collegiate career. They aren't skilled position players.

We can agree to disagree on how many OTs will go first round. I, and most pundints think 3 or less. I think maybe 2? It's just a weak class. That doesn't mean one or two mid to late rounders won't become all pros.

If I'm the GM and either Paris or Skoronski are already gone, I'm not using #14 on anyone else. Find one in FA and take a few mid round flyers.

I am not saying 4 or 5 will go first round only that their may be enough talented OTs should the need be there for a team. My concern is our need for an OT vs our draft position round two.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Exactly why more and more I feel OT at 14 is the best option. Mayer may be there but there are decent TEs to be had later and not decent OTs

So are there or aren't there talented OTs? If there is would you use #14 on anyone other than Paris or Soronski?

 

[YankeeRebel]

So are there or aren't there talented OTs? If there is would you use #14 on anyone other than Paris or Soronski?

Do you really not understand what I wrote? Or are you once again being obnoxious?

 

[BigKen]

Your very post has two OTs being taken. We have a need for OT question is IMO if what you say who do we have on staff to make that evaluation. Who do we have telling BB hey these OTs may be there in round two? How much of a risk does that become. I don't agree there is not first round OT talent I think there are three or four that could go early. Combine may shed light on this.

Here's the Patriots' Personnel Department. My guess is that they have a lot to say about every position.

Patriots unveil new-look player personnel department for the 2022 season

The team has seen some changes in this area.

www.patspulpit.com

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Do you really not understand what I wrote? Or are you once again being obnoxious?

Well you've written many things that conflict with each other.

So I'll keep it simple for you.

If the two top T are gone are you using #14 on another one?

It's quite a simple question.

 

[YankeeRebel]

I am not saying 4 or 5 will go first round only that their may be enough talented OTs should the need be there for a team. My concern is our need for an OT vs our draft position round two.

So are there or aren't there talented OTs? If there is would you use #14 on anyone other than Paris or Soronski?

Do you really not understand what I wrote? Or are you once again being obnoxious?

Well you've written many things that conflict with each other.

So I'll keep it simple for you.

If the two top T are gone are you using #14 on another one?

It's quite a simple question.

Have a nice dat.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Here's the Patriots' Personnel Department. My guess is that they have a lot to say about every position.

Patriots unveil new-look player personnel department for the 2022 season

The team has seen some changes in this area.

www.patspulpit.com

My question still remains who do we really have acessing O Line talent. Matt is gone and thank god not sure which of those names has any more knowledge then Matt did. Had we hired a true o line coach I would put faith in that. Or if the Pats could contract Scar for six months as a consultant

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Have a nice dat.

Just like I thought. You don't even know what you were arguing.

Well done we have a spot for you on the JV team.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Just like I thought. You don't even know what you were arguing.

Well done we have a spot for you on the JV team.

I showed you exactly what I typed your inability to comprehend that is not on me.

Waits for last word.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

I showed you exactly what I typed your inability to comprehend that is not on me.

Waits for last word.

I've asked a very simple question. You chose not to answer and continue to deflect. Well done

 

[Southieinnc]

Your very post has two OTs being taken. We have a need for OT question is IMO if what you say who do we have on staff to make that evaluation. Who do we have telling BB hey these OTs may be there in round two? How much of a risk does that become. I don't agree there is not first round OT talent I think there are three or four that could go early. Combine may shed light on this.

It was my opinion that there is not a lot of 1st round talent at OT - but
You are correct that 3 or 4 could go early - there is that kind of need!

 

[YankeeRebel]

It was my opinion that there is not a lot of 1st round talent at OT - but
You are correct that 3 or 4 could go early - there is that kind of need!

Yes it all depends on team needs, how the draft moves trades etc....

 

[NWPATSFAN]

It was my opinion that there is not a lot of 1st round talent at OT - but
You are correct that 3 or 4 could go early - there is that kind of need!

There is always a huge need for quality linemen and linemen in general.

But do you waste your top pick in the draft for a talent you can likely get in the 2nd or 3rd round?

There are two very good OT in this draft. Maybe 1 or 2 you'd take late in the 1st. Then they are all pretty equal. 2nd and 3rd rounders. They could blossom into quality starters.

My point being if Mayer or the top ranked DB Witherspoon are there and the two stud OTs are gone. I'm not reaching for a lesser talented OT. Worse case I trade down and take one later. But I think that would be a mistake with Mayer and Witherspoon there. I think both of these guys will be NFL studs.

 

[YankeeRebel]

There is always a huge need for quality linemen and linemen in general.

But do you waste your top pick in the draft for a talent you can likely get in the 2nd or 3rd round?

There are two very good OT in this draft. Maybe 1 or 2 you'd take late in the 1st. Then they are all pretty equal. 2nd and 3rd rounders. They could blossom into quality starters.

My point being if Mayer or the top ranked DB Witherspoon are there and the two stud OTs are gone. I'm not reaching for a lesser talented OT. Worse case I trade down and take one later. But I think that would be a mistake with Mayer and Witherspoon there. I think both of these guys will be NFL studs.

Problem is this IMO.

You can't reach for a second round talent in the first round less it be late in the first round. And you can't assume the player desired will not get snagged before you pick in the second round. It's always the same conundrum. Fortunately, BB has some draft capital this year so he could be very active if he feels a player is a must have

 

[Southieinnc]

Problem is this IMO.

You can't reach for a second round talent in the first round less it be late in the first round. And you can't assume the player desired will not get snagged before you pick in the second round. It's always the same conundrum. Fortunately, BB has some draft capital this year so he could be very active if he feels a player is a must have

I see that especially for the O-line. Lot of tweeners - good enough to draft but not good enough to reach.
I think Parrish at LT is not a reach at 14 but he may go at 13 and then what.
Some have suggested to move up to 12 but we have a lot of needs this year!

 

[cheerupcharlie]

I'm all in on Mayer at #14. The elite TE in this draft. Great pass catcher and even a better blocker. You aren't selling out the play when he's in there. Could be a pass or run.



Why settle for a so-so O-lineman with the 1st pick and then settle for a lesser TE later.



Grab that Stud TE and settle for a lesser O-lineman later.



In alot of drafts there is talk of an OT who could be the 1st overall. Not in this draft. Slight chance there won't be one in the top 10.



Get Mayer.

 

[Southieinnc]

I'm all in on Mayer at #14. The elite TE in this draft. Great pass catcher and even a better blocker. You aren't selling out the play when he's in there. Could be a pass or run.



Why settle for a so-so O-lineman with the 1st pick and then settle for a lesser TE later.



Grab that Stud TE and settle for a lesser O-lineman later.



In alot of drafts there is talk of an OT who could be the 1st overall. Not in this draft. Slight chance there won't be one in the top 10.



Get Mayer.

I'd rather have Darnell Washington but not at 14. I'd rather take Parrish at 14?

 

[YankeeRebel]

I'm all in on Mayer at #14. The elite TE in this draft. Great pass catcher and even a better blocker. You aren't selling out the play when he's in there. Could be a pass or run.



Why settle for a so-so O-lineman with the 1st pick and then settle for a lesser TE later.



Grab that Stud TE and settle for a lesser O-lineman later.



In alot of drafts there is talk of an OT who could be the 1st overall. Not in this draft. Slight chance there won't be one in the top 10.



Get Mayer.

A lot depends on how BB approaches the FA market. I agree Mayer is the TE of choice not sure he is a greater need than OT. So it depends on what OT is available at 14

 

[cheerupcharlie]

You're exactly right about free agency. That will dictate which direction we go in the draft. It's nice knowing we have options this off-season.

 

[BigKen]

Just a thought, don't tear my head off.

Bill has $68.8M to spend and the 2023 cap hasn't been set, and he hasn't trimmed any fat.

If he could land OT Orlando Brown for 3/$65M, would you be happy or pissed?

If he did land Brown and could keep Trent Brown at RT, then the line would be:

O Brown (LT) Strange (LG) Andrews? (C) Owneue (RG) T Brown (RT) ========= Good Enough?

Now BB could play around, maybe make a deal and move up and snag Mayer.

Spending a shitload for OB would just open the flood gates. Even if he offered him $25M I would be estatic.

I'd offer Jarvis Landry 3/$45M and Bill would still have $23M

So go for the jugular and offer Patrick Peterson 3/$54M

Bank the remaining 5 and any cap extra.

All of sudden go from also ran to running toward the front.