2022 NBA Offseason thread

[Mecca]

Might have more movement soon.

Need to get these rosters finalized before my fantasy drafts begin.

 

[Mecca]

I honestly don’t see how Davis can be considered a top 75 guy, injuries or not.

Dame should not have been their either.

Gmafb

 

[tlance]

I honestly don’t see how Davis can be considered a top 75 guy, injuries or not.

Depends on how you make your list.

The peak of Anthony Davis was short lived (assuming it is in the past), but it was absolutely better than the peaks of a lot of players on that list.

His longevity and list of meaningful accomplishments come up short though.

 

[msgkings322]

Dame should not have been their either.

Gmafb

Who would you replace AD and Dame with?

 

[thunderc]

Dame should not have been their either.

Gmafb

I would put Dame there before Davis though.

 

[Mecca]

Who would you replace AD and Dame with?

Howard, Pau Gasol, Mcgrady, Alex English?

Seriously, I love Dame.

If you stopped his career today would he have had a better career than Tony Parker?

How about Klay Thompson?

No.

None of those guys are on that list.

So, he shouldn't be either......yet.

 

[Mecca]

@msgkings322 ....see the addition of Klay that I.added to my post

 

[msgkings322]

@msgkings322 ....see the addition of Klay that I.added to my post

That's who I was thinking of, of course

But that's my question, if you take 2 off you have 73. Which 2 replace them? I'd go with Klay and Pau but I'm biased on Klay

These are obviously the bottom end of the 75

 

[trojanfan12]

I think that is a little unfair to Russ.

He has had a fantastic career by any reasonable standard.

Just looking more and more like an Allen Iverson style ending.

And he was never as good as most thought he was at his peak.

He also gets the distinction of being the one guy that couldn't play next to Lebron. lol

 

[Mecca]

That's who I was thinking of, of course

But that's my question, if you take 2 off you have 73. Which 2 replace them? I'd go with Klay and Pau but I'm biased on Klay

These are obviously the bottom end of the 75

I would go with your two.

Howard is.deserving.

But, I have disliked him for the majority of his career.

So, it's hard to let go of that if there is another LEGITIMATE option.

There are several...lol

As for Dame and Klay, it's not as clear cut as I originally thought, statistically.

Dame leads in most of those categories.

* not shooting % *

But, only 1 guy played defense and it's the same one that has 4 rings.

So, yeah....

Klay over Dame.

 

[Mecca]

He also gets the distinction of being the one guy that couldn't play next to Lebron. lol

......or KD.

.......or Harden.

.......or George.

........or Beal.

......or * insert next team he torpedoes because he still wants to be the old Russ.

 

[msgkings322]

I would go with your too.

Howard is.deserving.

But, I have disliked him for the majority of his career.

So, it's hard to let go of that if there is another LEGITIMATE option.

There are several...lol

As for Dame and Klay, it's not as clear cut as I originally thought, statistically.

Dame leads in most of those categories.

* not shooting % *

But, only 1 guy played defense and it's the same one that has 4 rings.

So, yeah....

Klay over Dame.

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Yeah neither is so obviously better. Lists like these always have those few at the end that are borderline vs some other borderline guy

 

[tlance]

Howard, Pau Gasol, Mcgrady, Alex English?

Seriously, I love Dame.

If you stopped his career today would he have had a better career than Tony Parker?

How about Klay Thompson?

No.

None of those guys are on that list.

So, he shouldn't be either......yet.

I love Klay Thompson.

But is really better than AD or Dame?

Not even close.

He might have had a better career because of the rings. But he isn’t a better player.

 

[The Q]

I love Klay Thompson.

But is really better than AD or Dame?

Not even close.

He might have had a better career because of the rings. But he isn’t a better player.

That is the problem with ringzzzzzz culture

 

[Mecca]

I love Klay Thompson.

But is really better than AD or Dame?

Not even close.

He might have had a better career because of the rings. But he isn’t a better player.

Dame is a better scorer.

We don't know what Klay could have been, pre-injury, as the #1 option.

The man is a top 5 shooter of all time.

Burning down the nets would not have been a problem.

But, he was also a good defender who took on the oppositions best backcourt player, on both sides of the ball.

So, no.

I said what I said.

Klay has had the better career.

Klay was the better all around player.

This is Tim Duncan vs. Karl Malone using midgets.

How many of us are taking Pedo-Karl as the better player?

Probably zero.

 

[Mecca]

That is the problem with ringzzzzzz culture

But, stats culture is equally as flawed.

That's why Westbrook stans believe the Lakers are the toxic entity because 19, 7 and 7 is a terrific stat line for a pg.

Doesn't really stand up to the smell test unless you are a casual.

It wasn't all Russ' fault.

They tried to make him something he's not.

You can't make a hoe a housewife.

 

[msgkings322]

Dame is a better scorer.

We don't know what Klay could have been, pre-injury, as the #1 option.

The man is a top 5 shooter of all time.

Burning down the nets would not have been a problem.

But, he was also a good defender who took on the oppositions best backcourt player, on both sides of the ball.

So, no.

I said what I said.

Klay has had the better career.

Klay was the better all around player.

This is Tim Duncan vs. Karl Malone using midgets.

How many of us are taking Pedo-Karl as the better player?

Probably zero.

Like I said above with the borderline guys there's no 'right answer', you can make a good case for all of them

 

[tlance]

Dame is a better scorer.

We don't know what Klay could have been, pre-injury, as the #1 option.

The man is a top 5 shooter of all time.

Burning down the nets would not have been a problem.

But, he was also a good defender who took on the oppositions best backcourt player, on both sides of the ball.

So, no.

I said what I said.

Klay has had the better career.

Klay was the better all around player.

This is Tim Duncan vs. Karl Malone using midgets.

How many of us are taking Pedo-Karl as the better player?

Probably zero.

Strongly disagree there.

Again, I love Klay. He is the ideal complimentary player. Does (or did) everything well, doesn’t dominate the ball and can fit with ANYONE.

He was a top 15 player in his peak and his impact on teams is easy to see.

But sorry, you take all player off their teams and have the GMs do a redraft.

0 GMs are drafting peak Klay over peak AD and Lillard. AD and Lillard were MVP candidates at their peaks. It is just a different level.

It is a really easy call too.

Put Klay in NO and AD in GS and we aren’t having this conversation.

 

[DJ]

Hey Gigi aka @SMOKEY95 how are you today?

 

[bksballer89]

Strongly disagree there.

Again, I love Klay. He is the ideal complimentary player. Does (or did) everything well, doesn’t dominate the ball and can fit with ANYONE.

He was a top 15 player in his peak and his impact on teams is easy to see.

But sorry, you take all player off their teams and have the GMs do a redraft.

0 GMs are drafting peak Klay over peak AD and Lillard. AD and Lillard were MVP candidates at their peaks. It is just a different level.

It is a really easy call too.

Put Klay in NO and AD in GS and we aren’t having this conversation.

WITHOUT A DOUBT