2022-2023 NBA Season Thread

[thunderc]

What does that look like then?

Well it certainly looks like more attempts than letting a great point guard walk and then signing a malcontent.

 

[msgkings322]

Are we ready to say yet that you can’t build a winner around Luka?

All we can say right now is DALLAS can't build a winner around Luka. He needs to demand to go elsewhere, Dallas should consider blowing it up.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Well it certainly looks like more attempts than letting a great point guard walk and then signing a malcontent.

That doesn’t answer my question. Who can play around him? What does it look like.

 

[shopson67]

Does that count as them using the big mle and are they hard capped?

This is an unnecessary complicated rule

I don't know the details either. It doesn't count as their MLE though, will exceed that.

 

[The Q]

I don't know the details either. It doesn't count as their MLE though, will exceed that.

It can go as high as the full mle

So that’s why I think maybe?

 

[The Q]

I don't know the details either. It doesn't count as their MLE though, will exceed that.

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Last 3 bullets make it less clear lol

 

[thunderc]

That doesn’t answer my question. Who can play around him? What does it look like.

Not a GM but the more good players he has around him he is obviously going to have to change his game a bit. I see no reason why he can’t.

 

[msgkings322]

What does that look like then?

Luka going to another team for starters.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

What does that look like then?

Start here…..

Not sure the first guy is attainable.

But, he fits a ball dominant guy like Luka better than Kyrie.

….not a Chip team.

But, a start.

 

[tlance]

As in trade Kawhi and PG? Don’t know about that one. They don’t have the value they did four years ago, and teams in general have learned from the KG/Pierce heist in 2013.

At this point, having them around holds more value than anything you could bring back.

Of course.

But they have gone absolutely nowhere with them.

At some point you have to move on and start over.

It isn’t about getting value back.

 

[HurricaneDij39]

Come on with this bullshit.

This is out of bounds.

Some of these people need to get a fucking life.

What happened?

 

[shopson67]

That doesn’t answer my question. Who can play around him? What does it look like.

I think you likely build around him like you would Lebron. 3&D players mostly, but need a secondary scorer that doesn't need the ball in his hands all the time. Strangely, Kyrie worked with Lebron, but I think he's not that same player anymore (more ball dominant now).

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

What happened?

Trolling his kids birthday post.

 

[shopson67]

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Last 3 bullets make it less clear lol

Without clearing cap, there's only a few teams that can even offer an average value over $20M this summer (Rockets, Jazz, Pacers).

 

[The Q]

I think you likely build around him like you would Lebron. 3&D players mostly, but need a secondary scorer that doesn't need the ball in his hands all the time. Strangely, Kyrie worked with Lebron, but I think he's not that same player anymore (more ball dominant now).

Ironically the nets are built pretty well to play with him

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

I think you likely build around him like you would Lebron. 3&D players mostly, but need a secondary scorer that doesn't need the ball in his hands all the time. Strangely, Kyrie worked with Lebron, but I think he's not that same player anymore (more ball dominant now).

Yep.

The Mavs other issue is their cap.

They have a shit ton of money tied up in guys like Bertans and Hardaway Jr.

Neither of which fits the bill as 3 and D.

They can generate about 25 mil in cap and are 50 mil below the tax threshold.

But, who can they sign that’s going to be better than Kyrie/Woods?

Poo Poo platter free agents this summer.

Gotta be trades.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Without clearing cap, there's only a few teams that can even offer an average value over $20M this summer (Rockets, Jazz, Pacers).

Poison pill.

That’s pretty much the way the Lakers have to go to pay him over 13 mil anyway.

12-13 mil the first 2 seasons and then it will ballon into the 20’s if they decide to match a ludicrous offer.

So, basically….Tyler Johnson.



Johnson, 24, signed the contract when the free agent signing moratorium ended on Thursday, giving the Heat until midnight on Sunday to match the offer. His contract structure is heavily back-loaded, paying him $5.6 and $5.8 million over the first two seasons, then leaping up to the $18 million and $19 million range the next two. TNT’s David Aldridge reported the deal includes a player option after the third season.

 

[shopson67]

Ironically the nets are built pretty well to play with him

Overloaded with wings. Maybe a few are available this summer? Not for Kyrie obviously, maybe for Wood? Would have to be a S&T, so that likelihood drops...

 

[shopson67]

Poison pill.

That’s pretty much the way the Lakers have to go to pay him over 13 mil anyway.

12-13 mil the first 2 seasons and then it will ballon into the 20’s if they decide to match a ludicrous offer.

So, basically….Tyler Johnson.



Johnson, 24, signed the contract when the free agent signing moratorium ended on Thursday, giving the Heat until midnight on Sunday to match the offer. His contract structure is heavily back-loaded, paying him $5.6 and $5.8 million over the first two seasons, then leaping up to the $18 million and $19 million range the next two. TNT’s David Aldridge reported the deal includes a player option after the third season.

Right, but the team making the offer needs to have cap space for the average value of the contract to make the offer in the first place. Part of the protection of the Arenas provision.

 

[bksballer89]

What does that look like then?

A star who isn't a guard and better defenders. I think his team is great if he is playing with AD or Giannis