2022-2023 NBA Season Thread

[fightinfunbags]

Yep.

The Mavs other issue is their cap.

They have a shit ton of money tied up in guys like Bertans and Hardaway Jr.

Neither of which fits the bill as 3 and D.

They can generate about 25 mil in cap and are 50 mil below the tax threshold.

But, who can they sign that’s going to be better than Kyrie/Woods?

Poo Poo platter free agents this summer.

Gotta be trades.

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And what assets do they actually hold to trade?

 

[bksballer89]

He seems to focus on winning the mvp than winning the title

 

[thunderc]

He seems to focus on winning the mvp than winning the title

Eh every time I’ve seen him he has discounted that stuff and talked about winning.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

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Last 3 bullets make it less clear lol

Basically, the first 2 years will be at whatever salary slot the Lakers have available.

Example using a 50 mil contract.

If they only have 5 mil, his first 2 years would be 5 mil per = 10 mil.

His 3rd and 4th year would be at 20 mil each to get to the 50 mil mark.

They can also use any exceptions they have as the starting salary, mle etc.

There is a catch in Austin Reaves’ situation​

One key point to note about Reaves’ potential signing with the Lakers, is the Arenas Rule. As per Sportrac, what that means is the following:

“When a player is an Arenas free agent, opposing teams can still offer whatever salary they are able to give, but the incumbent team is given an avenue to match the offer. What happens in these offers is that the first-year salary for an Arenas free agent is limited to either the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level Exception (NTMLE) or what a team can match using their Early Bird exception…. That results in what is often referred to as a “poison pill” structure for a contract.”

To make that simple, should a team offer Reaves four years at $60 million, the reality is it wouldn’t be the logical $15 million per year, but rather the $11.4 million that the Lakers can offer right now. While that is of course, way more than what he’s currently earning, it’s still significantly less than what he could earn.

 

[msgkings322]

Eh every time I’ve seen him he has discounted that stuff and talked about winning.

It's nice to see him basically healthy all year

 

[Shanemansj13]

Yep.

The Mavs other issue is their cap.

They have a shit ton of money tied up in guys like Bertans and Hardaway Jr.

Neither of which fits the bill as 3 and D.

They can generate about 25 mil in cap and are 50 mil below the tax threshold.

But, who can they sign that’s going to be better than Kyrie/Woods?

Poo Poo platter free agents this summer.

Gotta be trades.

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Yep they are at $98M not counting Bullock. They need to get team(s) to take Bertans and Hardaway, not easy. If they finish bottom 10 at least they get a draft pick but they need as much cap as possible to make moves. People act like Luka is out...he is not going anywhere right now.

 

[fightinfunbags]

He seems to focus on winning the mvp than winning the title

No he doesn’t. He’s just free with his mouth in an interview. Each of those responses was given to a question that was specifically about MVP. At the same time, he should know better by now. The only way his comments aren’t going to be taken out of context is if he tells Sham, I’m not doing your interview or he says I’m not talking about MVP.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

And what assets do they actually hold to trade?

Dallas Mavericks updated draft picks after Kyrie Irving trade​

Dallas is certainly light on picks after this deal. Here is where the Mavericks' picks are headed and which ones they have left.

2023 first-round pick owed to Knicks (top ten protected)

2023 second pick owed to Oklahoma City, Boston, or Indiana

2024 first-round pick- own

2024 second-round pick owed to the Kings

2025 first-round pick- own

2025 second-round pick- own

2026 first-round pick- own

2026 second-round pick owed to Oklahoma City, Miami, or Houston

2027 first-round pick- own

2027 second-round pick owed to Brooklyn

2028 first-round pick- own

2028 second-round pick owed to the Kings

2029 first-round pick owed to the Nets

2029 second-round pick owed to Brooklyn

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Right, but the team making the offer needs to have cap space for the average value of the contract to make the offer in the first place. Part of the protection of the Arenas provision.

Absolutely correct.

 

[fightinfunbags]

It's nice to see him basically healthy all year

He’s not but relatively speaking he’s been better than most years. He doesn’t have to play on a ligament tear or with a mask because of a broken face though.

 

[shopson67]

And what assets do they actually hold to trade?

Kyrie and Woods, but either would have to be a S&T. As far as firsts, they can trade their 2027 (and/or this year's pick during the draft if in the top 10).

 

[fightinfunbags]

Dallas Mavericks updated draft picks after Kyrie Irving trade​

Dallas is certainly light on picks after this deal. Here is where the Mavericks' picks are headed and which ones they have left.

2023 first-round pick owed to Knicks (top ten protected)

2023 second pick owed to Oklahoma City, Boston, or Indiana

2024 first-round pick- own

2024 second-round pick owed to the Kings

2025 first-round pick- own

2025 second-round pick- own

2026 first-round pick- own

2026 second-round pick owed to Oklahoma City, Miami, or Houston

2027 first-round pick- own

2027 second-round pick owed to Brooklyn

2028 first-round pick- own

2028 second-round pick owed to the Kings

2029 first-round pick owed to the Nets

2029 second-round pick owed to Brooklyn

What I’m saying is that they don’t have the salary in marketable players to bring back anything that would make a difference. Their high salary pieces are pieces that no one places much value on. In fact, Bertens is likely seen as a negative asset.

 

[tlance]

All we can say right now is DALLAS can't build a winner around Luka. He needs to demand to go elsewhere, Dallas should consider blowing it up.

Luka is the 1 guy they can’t trade unless he absolutely puts his foot down and says he needs out.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

As in trade Kawhi and PG? Don’t know about that one. They don’t have the value they did four years ago, and teams in general have learned from the KG/Pierce heist in 2013.

At this point, having them around holds more value than anything you could bring back.

I would actually love to keep George.

I would love for Kawhi to WANT to go elsewhere.

The Clippers experience has run its course.

 

[shopson67]

Yep they are at $98M not counting Bullock. They need to get team(s) to take Bertans and Hardaway, not easy. If they finish bottom 10 at least they get a draft pick but they need as much cap as possible to make moves. People act like Luka is out...he is not going anywhere right now.

Luka would be the easy way to blow it up, but what a cost to pay....

 

[shopson67]

I would actually love to keep George.

I would love for Kawhi to WANT to go elsewhere.

The Clippers experience has run its course.

Trade Ks? Kawhi for Kyrie?

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

What I’m saying is that they don’t have the salary in marketable players to bring back anything that would make a difference. Their high salary pieces are pieces that no one places much value on. In fact, Bertens is likely seen as a negative asset.

They aren’t moving either without attaching assets.

The Mavs need to come to the same realization as the Lakers…

The home run swing isn’t the answer.

Even if they wanted to go that route, they couldn’t, no assets.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Trade Ks? Kawhi for Kyrie?

Fuck no.

I can’t with Kyrie the person.

Kyrie the player, sure.

Package deal though…

 

[Wamu]

Yeah, I ain't eating or drinking anything that's neon.

Remember the original Batman movie? When the Joker was dropped into that vat of waste. That's what that energy drink looked like to me.

 

[fightinfunbags]

They aren’t moving either without attaching assets.

The Mavs need to come to the same realization as the Lakers…

The home run swing isn’t the answer.

Even if they wanted to go that route, they couldn’t, no assets.

Jokic and Luka need the same deal. They need to take a page out of Larry Brown’s AI plan but for different reasons. Luka is AI in that he’s gonna pound the ball all game and do everything at that end regardless of what you put around him. So put 4 defenders around him. Jokic makes players efficient regardless of their offensive skill set. They lose something in the playoffs though not having a rim protector and presence at the 5. Put defenders around him and he makes them into useable offensive pieces.