Series Thread: 2021 NBA Finals: Milwaukee Bucks vs. Phoenix Suns

[shopson67]

How? These guys are always banged up and not getting younger

Always is a stretch. Only Kyrie really historically, and KD should be fine moving forward.

 

[msgkings322]

Almost. What Giannis has accomplished so far is incredible. But it still doesn't match Kareem's accomplishments in Milwaukee.


KAJ's numbers (6 years): 30.4 ppg, 15.3 rebs, 4.3 asts, 1.2 stls, 3.4 blks

Giannis (8 years): 20.9, 9.1, 4.5, 1.2, 1.3

Meh. It's gonna be Giannis fairly soon. Looks like he will be there all or most of his career for one thing.

 

[Wamu]

Meh. It's gonna be Giannis fairly soon. Looks like he will be there all or most of his career for one thing.

That's the way it's looking. But he hasn't surpassed Kareem's accomplishments in Milwaukee yet.

 

[msgkings322]

That's the way it's looking. But he hasn't surpassed Kareem's accomplishments in Milwaukee yet.

So buckalis was prescient

 

[Wamu]

So buckalis was prescient

Sure. If you choose to believe that Giannis is now the best Bucks player in franchise history. He should be at some point, but he's not there yet.

 

[msgkings322]

Sure. If you choose to believe that Giannis is now the best Bucks player in franchise history. He should be at some point, but he's not there yet.

No, I'm saying he was prescient, meaning he was just early in recognizing what we all will recognize at some point.

 

[shopson67]

Meh. It's gonna be Giannis fairly soon. Looks like he will be there all or most of his career for one thing.

There's no way he passes Kareem's rebound and block averages, and probably not ppg either.

 

[msgkings322]

There's no way he passes Kareem's rebound and block averages, and probably not ppg either.

And yet....

Giannis won his title in an era with far better talent, and he didn't need another all time great by his side (Oscar). And if he wins another there the debate is over.

 

[shopson67]

And yet....

Giannis won his title in an era with far better talent, and he didn't need another all time great by his side (Oscar). And if he wins another there the debate is over.

The debate is already over. KAJ is in the discussion for GOAT. Giannis is not.

 

[msgkings322]

The debate is already over. KAJ is in the discussion for GOAT. Giannis is not.

Not YET

If Giannis plays there his whole career and leads them deep into the playoffs a few more times, I'm quite sure Milwaukee fans won't even think twice on who their guy is.

 

[Wamu]

No, I'm saying he was prescient, meaning he was just early in recognizing what we all will recognize at some point.

So you're giving buckyboy credit for something that hasn't happened. Giannis should become the Bucks best player in team history. But he's not there yet.

 

[CitySushi]

The debate is already over. KAJ is in the discussion for GOAT. Giannis is not.

To be fair the argument wasn't KAJ or Giannis all time, it was best Buck. Kareem only played for the bucks for 6 seasons. He won 1 title with two other hall of famers, Oscar Robertson and Bob Dandridge on the team. He won 3 MVP's in that span to Giannis' 2, but Giannis also has a DPOY. All NBA teams are very similar.

It's not a crazy argument at this point. Kareem did more in less years, but as of now I think there is a debate to be had.

 

[msgkings322]

So you're giving buckyboy credit for something that hasn't happened. Giannis should become the Bucks best player in team history. But he's not there yet.

LOL you are a trip sometimes.

 

[trojanfan12]

To be fair the argument wasn't KAJ or Giannis all time, it was best Buck. Kareem only played for the bucks for 6 seasons. He won 1 title with two other hall of famers, Oscar Robertson and Bob Dandridge on the team. He won 3 MVP's in that span to Giannis' 2, but Giannis also has a DPOY. All NBA teams are very similar.

It's not a crazy argument at this point. Kareem did more in less years, but as of now I think there is a debate to be had.

Not to mention, Kareem won is title with the Bucks 50 years ago. There are a lot of Bucks fans that likely never saw him play and even more that never saw him play in a Bucks uniform.

 

[dtgold88]

Monty is solid imo

Solid? Probably, but so far his record has been slightly better than mediocre. Not even sure he gets to .500 by end of next season...especially if CP leaves.

 

[dtgold88]

Win percentage is not a good way to evaluate a coach. Have to take roster into proper context.

Saying he is a better coach than Bud isn’t a very high bar.

I don’t think Bud is a bad coach, just seems like a very average NBA coach. Monte Williams might be better than that.

Time will tell.

Totally agree with that first comment, but it's true of many coaches. Get them talent they might win. Don't and they wont.

 

[tlance]

Sure. If you choose to believe that Giannis is now the best Bucks player in franchise history. He should be at some point, but he's not there yet.

I am not even sure he can get there if we are being honest.

Kareem is legit in the GOAT conversation. And by far his best years were in Milwaukee. He was hands down the best player in the NBA for a decade.

Giannis has been in the conversation for best player for a few years now, but if we are being objective, I don’t see how Giannis’ accomplishments in Milwaukee are even in the ball park of Kareem’s.

 

[Wamu]

I am not even sure he can get there if we are being honest.

Kareem is legit in the GOAT conversation. And by far his best years were in Milwaukee. He was hands down the best player in the NBA for a decade.

Giannis has been in the conversation for best player for a few years now, but if we are being objective, I don’t see how Giannis’ accomplishments in Milwaukee are even in the ball park of Kareem’s.

It was meant to be a shot at buckyboy. But I agree that the Greek Freak's not up to par with what the Captain did in Milwaukee for 6 years. And that's not a knock on Giannis. Kareem's the most underappreciated superstar in league history.

And I hope Giannis plays his entire career in Milwaukee and wins more titles.

 

[Tai Chi≈Surfing]

Well tonight would've been a game 7.
But I'm happy how it all played out and ended 2 nights ago....and I'm sure the Milwaukee fans feel the same.

Giannis, Bucks celebrate 'our city' at title parade

Thousands of fans lined downtown Milwaukee streets on Thursday to catch a glimpse of their beloved Bucks in a parade to celebrate the city's first NBA championship in half a century.

www.espn.com

All in all it was a very good season imho....and as a Knicks & Warriors fan, I cant wait for the next one....which btw, begins around mid October from what I've read.

Also..the NBA draft is just 1 week from today....so good Luck, everyone.

Talk to ya later.

Peace.

 

[DJ Fieri]