2020 NBA Offseason

[shopson67]

I know what you're saying. But he's one serious injury away from not getting paid. If I was him I'd take the best offer out there.

Yeah, take the best offer now. He's worth well more than $9M. He's the type of player the Lakers are missing, but have no real path to get him as a free agent.

 

[The Q]

Yeah, take the best offer now. He's worth well more than $9M. He's the type of player the Lakers are missing, but have no real path to get him as a free agent.

you do the big exception but you’re hard capped for the year.

I’m not sure how much more he’d get than the 4 year mid big mid level exception.

 

[shopson67]

You do realize the decision to exclude fans is more about protecting the fans that the players right? Players need to be protected too, but cmon man.

Thousands of fans crammed in an indoor arena during a global pandemic is a horrible idea.

Of course. Now if we can just get bikers, NFL players and politicians to agree on this, we might make some headway...

 

[Wamu]

Yeah, take the best offer now. He's worth well more than $9M. He's the type of player the Lakers are missing, but have no real path to get him as a free agent.

He made himself alotta money with with showing he put on in the bubble.

 

[shopson67]

He made himself alotta money with with showing he put on in the bubble.

As a Syracuse fan, I'm happy to see him finally put it together. I don't think he helped himself by leaving school early (as most Syracuse early entry players seem to suffer other than Melo).

 

[Wamu]

As a Syracuse fan, I'm happy to see him finally put it together. I don't think he helped himself by leaving school early (as most Syracuse early entry players seem to suffer other than Melo).

Didn't realize he played at Syracuse. For some reason I thought he was from the SEC.

 

[shopson67]

Didn't realize he played at Syracuse. For some reason I thought he was from the SEC.

 

[Wamu]

Can't remember exactly what year it was but back in the 90's my dad and I took a roadtrip to the Carrier Dome to see Syracuse play live. Also been to the DeanDome, Rupp Areana, Freedom Hall, Assembly Hall and Allen Fieldhouse.

 

[shopson67]

Can't remember exactly what year it was but back in the 90's my dad and I took a roadtrip to the Carrier Dome to see Syracuse play live. Also been to the DeanDome, Rupp Areana, Freedom Hall, Assembly Hall and Allen Fieldhouse.

We usually go to one or two Orange games a year (not a bad trip from Rochester, weather permitting). Haven't gone elsewhere for hoops (usually just East to Syracuse for the Orange or West to Buffalo for the Bills), but have seen some big teams vs the Orange. I remember seeing the Hoyas with Ewing as a kid up in row ZZ or something, a few rows from the top of the dome. We'll see if we get to go this coming year, hopefully! They finally renovated the dome.

 

[Wamu]

We usually go to one or two Orange games a year (not a bad trip from Rochester, weather permitting). Haven't gone elsewhere for hoops (usually just East to Syracuse for the Orange or West to Buffalo for the Bills), but have seen some big teams vs the Orange. I remember seeing the Hoyas with Ewing as a kid up in row ZZ or something, a few rows from the top of the dome. We'll see if we get to go this coming year, hopefully! They finally renovated the dome.

That would have been cool to see Ewing play live. Our tickets were high up as well. Almost behind the visitors basket. What an experience though. That's a unique place to watch a game.

 

[bksballer89]

 

[bksballer89]

 

[trojanfan12]

I bust on Westbrook plenty. So I have to give props when due.

Very cool of him. I hope more players have/do follow suit on this.

I'd love to see the league as a whole do something for those folks too.

 

[tlance]

is there a thread with this data?

No.

 

[tlance]

Burrow is definitely starting to get the hang. and of course there was MY dazzling QB...

tellin' ya, you NEED to be in the "Football Team's" braintrust on draft day...

Not me, LOL.

I got nothing but second hand info that a few team actually do have.

 

[tlance]

I thought you were down on Herbert or was that Tua? I know one of those Qbs drafted in round 1 you were not high on how good they'll be in the league

I said Herbert would be better than Tua.

 

[shopson67]

I said Herbert would be better than Tua.

Herbert is certainly the more standard NFL prototype QB. Remains to be seen what Tua can become, hopefully we get a look when he's ready and not rushed onto the field.

 

[dtgold88]

No.

Kind of was. here was you analysis.......

Now that most of the fantasy relevant rookies have been drafted in both the main dynasty leagues, going to post this.

Joe Burrow: Future star- this guy has an awesome combination of high floor and high ceiling. I know people will point to inexperience as a knock against him, but he flashed every imaginable skill last season, while most importantly showing an extremely advanced ability to read the field and make decisions. He will be a franchise QB and he has the upside to be a hall of famer someday.

Floor = Kirk Cousins, ceiling = more athletic Drew Brees

Tua Tagovailoa: Bust- maybe not totally from a fantasy standpoint, but he is going to struggle and will be inconsistent. Tua throws a beautiful ball, and it is easy to be enamored watching him throw strikes out of clean pockets to an all time great collegiate WR core, but the reality is that Tua struggles to make decisions when pressured, and when defenses could disguise coverages (which very rarely happened to him at the college level). He will probably make enough plays to keep his job for a few years, but when he is up for that first contract, the Dolphins are going to face that difficult decision on whether to keep him or cut bait. He might make enough plays to provide some fantasy value in between interceptions though.

Closest on field comp- Jameis Winston

Justin Herbert: Herbert has a wide range of outcomes and will need to improve his ball
Placement and accuracy to meet the high end of his expected outcome, but I believe he has the mental game to excel if he can sure up the mechanics. Herbert has a strong chance to be a low end to average franchise QB

Floor - Blaine Gabbert, ceiling = Less athletic CARSON Wentz

Jordan Love: Bust. Don’t waste your time waiting for this guy to develop. He throws a pretty ball but lacks the decision making skills to play the QB position effectively at the NFL level. Once a year scouts fall for the big armed kid who just “needs a little coaching”. Well, Love is that player this year. My bet is that you won’t see him starting very many NFL games and that the Packers will move on within a season of Rodgers’ departure, if not before.

Jalen Hurts: Not a QB. Will make a nice Taysom Hill clone though!

 

[tlance]

Kind of was. here was you analysis.......

Now that most of the fantasy relevant rookies have been drafted in both the main dynasty leagues, going to post this.

Joe Burrow: Future star- this guy has an awesome combination of high floor and high ceiling. I know people will point to inexperience as a knock against him, but he flashed every imaginable skill last season, while most importantly showing an extremely advanced ability to read the field and make decisions. He will be a franchise QB and he has the upside to be a hall of famer someday.

Floor = Kirk Cousins, ceiling = more athletic Drew Brees

Tua Tagovailoa: Bust- maybe not totally from a fantasy standpoint, but he is going to struggle and will be inconsistent. Tua throws a beautiful ball, and it is easy to be enamored watching him throw strikes out of clean pockets to an all time great collegiate WR core, but the reality is that Tua struggles to make decisions when pressured, and when defenses could disguise coverages (which very rarely happened to him at the college level). He will probably make enough plays to keep his job for a few years, but when he is up for that first contract, the Dolphins are going to face that difficult decision on whether to keep him or cut bait. He might make enough plays to provide some fantasy value in between interceptions though.

Closest on field comp- Jameis Winston

Justin Herbert: Herbert has a wide range of outcomes and will need to improve his ball
Placement and accuracy to meet the high end of his expected outcome, but I believe he has the mental game to excel if he can sure up the mechanics. Herbert has a strong chance to be a low end to average franchise QB

Floor - Blaine Gabbert, ceiling = Less athletic CARSON Wentz

Jordan Love: Bust. Don’t waste your time waiting for this guy to develop. He throws a pretty ball but lacks the decision making skills to play the QB position effectively at the NFL level. Once a year scouts fall for the big armed kid who just “needs a little coaching”. Well, Love is that player this year. My bet is that you won’t see him starting very many NFL games and that the Packers will move on within a season of Rodgers’ departure, if not before.

Jalen Hurts: Not a QB. Will make a nice Taysom Hill clone though!

Yep. That is what I posted.

That is not the data I am basing my post on. I have not posted and will not post that.

 

[dtgold88]

Yep. That is what I posted.

That is not the data I am basing my post on. I have not posted and will not post that.

I'm aware you have a source with data you rely on.

I'd add as far as overall analysis, nothing really earth shattering. #1 pick will be good. The late round picks either a bust or not a "true" QB. #6 not sure. Only one somewhat on a limb is calling Tua at #5 a bust.

Other than Tua, you could make this analysis for any QBs taken in those spots and hit way more often than not. Do you really disagree with that?