2020 NBA Offseason

[dtgold88]

The same way you feel....hope it's a close game and they compete. Titans struggle with pass defense, Browns struggle passing the ball ugggh

Not sure fair to say we struggle passing. When things are going well they just don't pass as much, as they run well and have a lead....Last 2 games at 8.9 and 9.3 yards/pass is pretty damn good. One in awful weather.

But will say the WRs nothing special with no OBJ. Landry a very good #2 but just OK #1. Then it's Hodge, Higgins, DPJ and Taylor. Ugh.

 

[Wamu]

Definitely concerned about Henry and stopping him. Guessing both teams have same approach....ball control with their elite RBs to keep ball away from other team's elite RBs.

Whichever teams runs the ball the best wins?

 

[Wamu]

also not saying we win, but reason so absurd to dismiss our 2 Ws vs. Cinci is you are right. Upsets happen....Cinci beat TN, so pretty sure we could win.

I just don't want the Browns to get whopped. Have a good showing on Sunday. Hoping for the upset. But don't bet on that.

 

[thunderc]

This is interesting. Comparing LeBron & MJ (clutch shots in the playoffs)

FG's: MJ- 5 of 11 (45.5%) & 3 buzzer beaters / LeBron- 7 of 15 (46.7%) & 5 buzzer beaters

MJ & LeBron (Finals) number of HOFers & potential future HOFers they faced.


MJ- Magic, Worthy, Drexler, Barkley, Payton, Stockton & Malone (2x)
LeBron- Duncan/Parker/Ginoblil (3x), Dirk, Kidd, KD (3x), Westbrick, Harden, Kawhi (2x), Steph/Klay/Dray (4x)

MJ is the GOAT. Only way LeBron closes that gap is by winning more rings. But LeBron's longevity & how he's all over the NBA record books can't be ignored. Only being compared to MJ is a complement in and of itself. And I can't think of another NBAer that's not only lived up to the hype. But surpassed it.

You too young to remember all the stuff on Lebron passing up last second shots? Never saw that from the goat.

 

[thunderc]

Never lost? He won a title every year in the league?

Every time he played for one he did

 

[Wamu]

Not sure fair to say we struggle passing. When things are going well they just don't pass as much, as they run well and have a lead....Last 2 games at 8.9 and 9.3 yards/pass is pretty damn good. One in awful weather.

But will say the WRs nothing special with no OBJ. Landry a very good #2 but just OK #1. Then it's Hodge, Higgins, DPJ and Taylor. Ugh.

Just imagine the dysfunction if AB would have ended up in Cleveland. It would have never happened. But it's still a funny what if. Mayfield would have had OBJ screaming at him in one ear. And AB yelling at him in the other.

 

[msgkings322]

Every time he played for one he did

He wasn't trying to win a title before 1991?

 

[thunderc]

He wasn't trying to win a title before 1991?

Lol you know what I’m saying dufus

 

[msgkings322]

You too young to remember all the stuff on Lebron passing up last second shots? Never saw that from the goat.

Other than passing off to Kerr and Paxson and others at the end of games of course

 

[msgkings322]

Lol you know what I’m saying dufus

Oh indeed I do. And what you are saying is dumb

 

[Wamu]

Other than passing off to Kerr and Paxson and others at the end of games of course

Ooppss.

 

[thunderc]

Oh indeed I do. And what you are saying is dumb

6 for 6 in the finals, nothing dumb about that

 

[Shanemansj13]

Not sure fair to say we struggle passing. When things are going well they just don't pass as much, as they run well and have a lead....Last 2 games at 8.9 and 9.3 yards/pass is pretty damn good. One in awful weather.

But will say the WRs nothing special with no OBJ. Landry a very good #2 but just OK #1. Then it's Hodge, Higgins, DPJ and Taylor. Ugh.

Yeah they just don't have the weapons, depth wise at WR. Something they need to address imo along with improving the defense and the depth all around. Landry and some guys lol.

 

[dtgold88]

You too young to remember all the stuff on Lebron passing up last second shots? Never saw that from the goat.

so you missed when he passed off to Paxson and Kerr for late shots in the Finals?

 

[Shanemansj13]

You too young to remember all the stuff on Lebron passing up last second shots? Never saw that from the goat.

And yet numbers don't lie, he is more clutch. Questions when he was younger, sure, but overall the narrative is completely overblown.

 

[dtgold88]

He wasn't trying to win a title before 1991?

to steal from Harold Ramos in Stripes he was "pacing himself".

 

[dtgold88]

6 for 6 in the finals, nothing dumb about that

nope....but dumb to ignore Lebron teams went to the Finals more often.

 

[Shanemansj13]

6 for 6 in the finals, nothing dumb about that

You stating it over and over is the other thing that is dumb. Especially the made up narractive MJ is more clutch, it just isn't true. Just bc you take more shots doesn't mean you are more clutch...Kobe statistically wasn't good but he took a high volume of shots. If you are smart, that means instead of passing to an open teammate he throws up clankers.

 

[dtgold88]

Yeah they just don't have the weapons, depth wise at WR. Something they need to address imo along with improving the defense and the depth all around. Landry and some guys lol.

Kind of addressed it with Hooper as they use TEs as much as WRs......never figured OBJ to go down. Higgins seems to be a solid WR. But, sure, wouldn't mind another in round 2-3 or FA....but as you alluded, I think more money goes to the D.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Kind of addressed it with Hooper as they use TEs as much as WRs......never figured OBJ to go down. Higgins seems to be a solid WR. But, sure, wouldn't mind another in round 2-3 or FA....but as you alluded, I think more money goes to the D.

Yeah I don't think they would need to address it in Round 1 but also might depend on how bad the OBJ injury is...still think 2-3 is a good spot. Say they pick at 20 and a gem star WR falls to him for example, wouldn't be against it.

Looking at the defense what do you think they need to address?

In my mind, a pass rusher opposite of Myles. Vernon will be gone unless he signs for a new, cheaper deal.
Interior DL depth especially if they don't sign Ogunjobi. Billings being out hurt.
CB. Depth at the position and maybe a true #2 after Ward. Can't trust Greedy at this point.