2020 Hawks Offseason Thread:

[seattlefan75]

i don't know if he is just a pain i think it has more to do with how it was such a weird off season. The big sticking point on his negotiations is his health and no one can bring him in and test him. Remember he had off season surgery and a team that REALLY without a doubt needs him that had him around last season and part of the offseason and had him in the training rooms doing rehab before the pandemic has not offered him much either. I am sure this fact makes other teams a little wary on signing him to a "bigger" long term contract.

Clowney is one of these players that will get you 6-8 sacks a season is disruptive in the running game and passing game but is not a superstar that he thinks he is. He is very good even great at times But not as good as he "THINKS" he is. Also many of us have said it over he is not worth 18-20+ mill per year. That's for those 14+ sack guys that are on par with Clowneys game in almost every other area... for the most part.

Not only that I am sure GMs look at him and see how every defense he has been on he hasn't really changed the dynamic of them. The Texans defense with him and JJ Watt in total was just average and the same goes for him this season in Seattle playing with Bobby Wagner. Every team has an analytics department and can see our run defense wasn't all that great, we couldn't apply pressure to the QB and lastly having a reputation as a me guy and not a leader ices all these things that would not convince a GM to shell out a ton of money.

 

[Anointed One]

Nice... Looks like our rookie, Cody Parkinson is out for 2-3 months..

Seahawks rookie TE Colby Parkinson had surgery for fracture in foot

 

[seattlefan75]

Nice... Looks like our rookie, Cody Parkinson is out for 2-3 months..

Seahawks rookie TE Colby Parkinson had surgery for fracture in foot

Well I am glad we have a lot of depth at TE Olsen seems like a good signing.

 

[blstoker]

 

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[seattlefan75]

What does this potentially mean? He will hold out for a new contract?

 

[blstoker]

What does this potentially mean? He will hold out for a new contract?

I don’t know if it means holdout but it could point to him wanting top RB money in free agency.

 

[kcden]

Good article on Jordyn Brooks' early years from ESPN:

How the 2020 draft's biggest first-round surprise made it to the NFL

I like what it seems to say about the attitude/effort we can expect from him. Think he'll be a good one.

 

[Mariners_44]

What does this potentially mean? He will hold out for a new contract?

Hopefully not, but I don’t see him lasting in Seattle beyond his rookie deal. There’s no doubt he has been a pleasant surprise and huge reason for our recent success, but the NFL doesn’t value that position like it once did; even the Seahawks considering the run heavy scheme. He will want Zeke type money which will send him to some crap team where he will eventually flail out. The Hawks will be back to patch working that position, but the money saved will go right into the D which is where it should IMO.

 

[FirebreathingMonkey]

Source: NFL shortens preseason to just two weeks as league continues to plot its 2020 strategy


Source: NFL to shorten preseason to two weeks

 

[FirebreathingMonkey]

Report: Seahawks preseason games vs Raiders, Vikings to be scrapped
Report: Seahawks preseason games vs Raiders, Vikings to be scrapped

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Report: Seahawks preseason games vs Raiders, Vikings to be scrapped
Report: Seahawks preseason games vs Raiders, Vikings to be scrapped

I just hope for the season to happen.

 

[Tapey]

 

[Podunkparte]

With all of this Antonio Brown buzz, where do you all stand on potential signings?

At first I was very low on AB, but lately I'm at:

1. Clowney
2. Everson Griffen
3a. Josh Brown
3b. Antonio Brown

I'm coming around on AB, but only if the coaching staff will then commit to an offensive strategy instead of hoping we can continually only play better in the 2nd half and make up a 10 point deficit. I'd also hope Schneider would be in communication with Goodell to know what punishment either WR faces coming back first.

Clowney remains at the top of my list because watching his highlights from last year it's clear he not only provides incredible pressure as a pass rusher, but also plays like a defacto DT with the disruption he continually causes in the run game. It's really impressive how much he affects the run in the backfield as an end rusher.

 

[Anointed One]

With all of this Antonio Brown buzz, where do you all stand on potential signings?

At first I was very low on AB, but lately I'm at:

1. Clowney
2. Everson Griffen
3a. Josh Brown
3b. Antonio Brown

I'm coming around on AB, but only if the coaching staff will then commit to an offensive strategy instead of hoping we can continually only play better in the 2nd half and make up a 10 point deficit. I'd also hope Schneider would be in communication with Goodell to know what punishment either WR faces coming back first.

Clowney remains at the top of my list because watching his highlights from last year it's clear he not only provides incredible pressure as a pass rusher, but also plays like a defacto DT with the disruption he continually causes in the run game. It's really impressive how much he affects the run in the backfield as an end rusher.

I still would like to avoid AB... For one, he's in a contract season so he's going to want/need to be as productive as possible to get a big payday the following year... IMO, if he's not targeted as much, to where he pads his numbers, he'll complain/pout and be a distraction... He's always given us the vibe that it's all about himself and the money... A very selfish player that won't get the targets/production he needs = a disaster imo...

 

[Screamin12th]

With all of this Antonio Brown buzz, where do you all stand on potential signings?

At first I was very low on AB, but lately I'm at:

1. Clowney
2. Everson Griffen
3a. Josh Brown
3b. Antonio Brown

I'm coming around on AB, but only if the coaching staff will then commit to an offensive strategy instead of hoping we can continually only play better in the 2nd half and make up a 10 point deficit. I'd also hope Schneider would be in communication with Goodell to know what punishment either WR faces coming back first.

Clowney remains at the top of my list because watching his highlights from last year it's clear he not only provides incredible pressure as a pass rusher, but also plays like a defacto DT with the disruption he continually causes in the run game. It's really impressive how much he affects the run in the backfield as an end rusher.

You know what, for someone that was supposed to be the best WR in the NFL a few years ago and that is still looking at a suspension and trouble to dance after catching a practice pass... nope it's a solid pass for me. Guy needs to take things more serious and that showed me that he isn't.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

I'd rather go for Josh Gordon. He fit in well and made some big plays and seemed like he was starting to get really going before getting shelved. I think Clowney won't be coming back so I'd rather go a different route whether it's Griffen or trade.

 

[Podunkparte]

I'd rather go for Josh Gordon. He fit in well and made some big plays and seemed like he was starting to get really going before getting shelved. I think Clowney won't be coming back so I'd rather go a different route whether it's Griffen or trade.

I'm with you on Gordon. He did look like he fit in in his limited time, and even with his weed addiction, that's not nearly as bad as some of ABs accusations. The question is will he be available or simply banned again?

So I guess another either or: Let's assume Clowney isn't coming and Gordon is banned for a year. Everson Griffen or AB? ABs talent is clearly higher than Griffens at his position, but Griffen would come with fewer headaches.

 

[seattlefan75]

I would love to sign AB and get him on the field I think the risk reward is completely worth it. After the circus with the raiders and briefly with the patriots they departed ways with him and it really didnt impact their season. The raiders were still the raiders and the patriots still had a solid season. Best case we get a pro bowl WR worst case we cut him.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

I'm with you on Gordon. He did look like he fit in in his limited time, and even with his weed addiction, that's not nearly as bad as some of ABs accusations. The question is will he be available or simply banned again?

So I guess another either or: Let's assume Clowney isn't coming and Gordon is banned for a year. Everson Griffen or AB? ABs talent is clearly higher than Griffens at his position, but Griffen would come with fewer headaches.

I would hope the FO should get a clear cut answer from the league office on when Gordon gets reinstated and how many games he may miss. It could be a low number of games or none since he missed out on the rest of the games last season.
If it's only a couple I would love to see Gordon cause his contract would be low and still probably be able to get Griffen in as well on a 1yr prove it deal. Gordon and Griffen is what I would like to see and I think that would make for a very nice finish to the off season.