2020 Draft & FA

[SteelersPride]

Berry had a better year, but I wouldn't call it strong. Numerous times he shanked punts for 20-30yds when they needed to pin them as deep as possible in the 4th quarter. And he continuously outkicked his coverage teams. I'm still not a fan of his.

yeah i guess youre right, but why now

 

[SteelersPride]

First I've ever heard of him being dickish. He idolized AB but mainly for the work ethic.

i never heard that either, not even a whisper

 

[SteelersPride]

Kmet is probably my favorite of the bunch from what I've seen.

I think a change of pace guy that can take a few carries here and there is a good thing. And I agree that Tomlin overused Bell. And that might be some of why Bell held out.

I think what Green Bay has been doing for three years with keeping one of their best players (Aaron Jones) on the bench just for the sake of running a committee is... well... I don't get it. I like getting your best players on the field as often as possible without wearing them down.

jamaal williams was actually drafted ahead of williams, and is largely productive with his touches, jones is very very good, but he isnt totally polished either

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

yeah i guess youre right, but why now

Probably just trying to get a jump on camp competition early. Last year's ST competition was garbage.

 

[SteelersPride]

Probably just trying to get a jump on camp competition early. Last year's ST competition was garbage.

yeah but its been for years.........i mean even take boswell. He had a GREAT season this year. He should of never had that opportunity. If that was anywhere else they would of cut his ass last year, when he cost us big time. Who the hell would of extended berry at the time they did, his stats had him around the 30th ranked punter in every metric, and we extend him........I dunno baffling. Its not all Tomlin either its Colbert too. For as good as Colbert's been, and Ive always been in the camp of "In Colbert I trust", but i question his effectiveness lately as well.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Noted. What would you do at TE?

I'll repeat my earlier thought that I'm not anti any position at this point.

I think the difference in why people are more tolerant of Connors than McDonald is all in the cap hit now. Vance will rise to over $7 mil against the cap this coming season. Conner will count just under a $1mil....so Conner and Snell are like $1.8mil combined on the '20 cap....if you can get 1200-1400 rushing yards between them...I'm okay with that production.

We have Gurley, Bell, Elliott, David Johnson, and Davonta Freeman as the big RB contracts, and all except Gurley are candidates to be released or traded this offseason. imo the NFL is evolving into 2 back league anyway so even if they did draft a RB @ 2...Snell would likely still be here as the RB2 so I think they would be pushing Connor out the door.

To correct myself...Zeke is not going anywhere in DAL yet.

 

[Bridgeburner]

jamaal williams was actually drafted ahead of williams, and is largely productive with his touches, jones is very very good, but he isnt totally polished either

Jamaal Williams just isn't as dynamic as Jones is. Williams is just another guy. I think Jones is clearly better in pretty much every facet of the game.

 

[SteelersPride]

Jamaal Williams just isn't as dynamic as Jones is. Williams is just another guy. I think Jones is clearly better in pretty much every facet of the game.

Well are you sure he's a better pass catcher? Blocker? And running routes? Bc Williams is more in on passing downs. Dynamics doesn't always equal better in all facets..........

 

[ATL96Steeler]

yeah but its been for years.........i mean even take boswell. He had a GREAT season this year. He should of never had that opportunity. If that was anywhere else they would of cut his ass last year, when he cost us big time. Who the hell would of extended berry at the time they did, his stats had him around the 30th ranked punter in every metric, and we extend him........I dunno baffling. Its not all Tomlin either its Colbert too. For as good as Colbert's been, and Ive always been in the camp of "In Colbert I trust", but i question his effectiveness lately as well.

Boswell would have gotten cut on many teams after his 2018 performance...but looking back at the numbers...because his contract was so new, the dead money would've wiped out any cap savings, so they gave him another shot.

 

[Bridgeburner]

Well are you sure he's a better pass catcher? Blocker? And running routes? Bc Williams is more in on passing downs. Dynamics doesn't always equal better in all facets..........

I think Williams is probably the better in pass protection, but other than that, yeah. I think Jones is better everywhere else.

 

[SteelersPride]

Boswell would have gotten cut on many teams after his 2018 performance...but looking back at the numbers...because his contract was so new, the dead money would've wiped out any cap savings, so they gave him another shot.

I know, I understand. But again season on the line, I see 98% of teams cutting him. I also can't see anyone else signing berry.

 

[SteelersPride]

I think Williams is probably the better in pass protection, but other than that, yeah. I think Jones is better everywhere else.

And look where Williams is mostly used. He only had 10 or more rushes 4 times all year. Two of those were in blow outs.

 

[SteelersPride]

Paul Zeise: Is coaching stability in the NFL overrated?

 

[ATL96Steeler]

I know, I understand. But again season on the line, I see 98% of teams cutting him. I also can't see anyone else signing berry.

Because of his dead money hit and no cap savings, it would have to depend on that team's cap situation so I would back off 98%, but I agree the majority would've released both of them after their performances in 2018.

 

[SteelersPride]

Because of his dead money hit and no cap savings, it would have to depend on that team's cap situation so I would back off 98%, but I agree the majority would've released both of them after their performances in 2018.

i agree on the 98% its excessive.

 

[Bridgeburner]

And look where Williams is mostly used. He only had 10 or more rushes 4 times all year. Two of those were in blow outs.

This year was better, for sure.

 

[SteelersPride]

Oh art rooney where is your head. Mason is the prodigal son apparently.

'We Feel Good About It': Steelers Team President Art Rooney II Says Steelers Don't Plan On Bringing In Another Veteran Backup QB

playoffs with mason???

 

[thedddd]

Oh art rooney where is your head. Mason is the prodigal son apparently.

'We Feel Good About It': Steelers Team President Art Rooney II Says Steelers Don't Plan On Bringing In Another Veteran Backup QB

playoffs with mason???

Don't worry Matt Canada will fix Mason Rudolph.

 

[SteelersPride]

Don't worry Matt Canada will fix Mason Rudolph.

yeah, canada has such a great track record of improving offenses, as an OC. not sure how he keeps getting jobs.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Oh art rooney where is your head. Mason is the prodigal son apparently.

'We Feel Good About It': Steelers Team President Art Rooney II Says Steelers Don't Plan On Bringing In Another Veteran Backup QB

playoffs with mason???