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2020-21 The Carter Hart Era PT2(The raising of the cup)

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If these stupid democrats win the presidency we won't have hockey for at least another year.
I will agree with the first part but im not sure they can cancel hockey. We will get ready to go Jan 1st hopefully!
 

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I will agree with the first part but im not sure they can cancel hockey. We will get ready to go Jan 1st hopefully!
They can if they invoke covid lock downs. I love hockey but kind of miss seeing fans or being able to attend. On the other hand covid may well dissappear after the elections over.
 

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So anyone think the Isles are having a real hard time clearing cap space to sign Barzal? Seems clearing Boychuk off their payroll isn't going to be easy. We should make an offer lol.
 

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I'll go take shots at these guys all day long if they would let me lol. I see his point but I'm sure somewhere coaches etc could find some practice time for these guys.
 

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Elliot Desnoyers our 5th round pick is second in the Quebec league in both goals and assists.
 

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Elliot Desnoyers our 5th round pick is second in the Quebec league in both goals and assists.
He's been tearing it up. Saw lots of tweets about him over the weekend. Great start for the kid.
 

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He's been tearing it up. Saw lots of tweets about him over the weekend. Great start for the kid.
Hiow many years away do you think he will be to make it up to the big team?
 

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Hiow many years away do you think he will be to make it up to the big team?

He's got a long way to go I think. According to this article (NHL Draft Pick Probabilities) only 15% of 5th rounders play > 99 games in the NHL. So he's still got a long way to go to beat those odds at all.

But if things do go smoothly and he keeps getting better and better, I would expect this year and next year in the QMJHL. The year after with the Phantoms. And then we could start talking about being on the NHL/AHL bubble at training camp in 2023. But that's probably a best case scenario. Morgan Frost was drafted in 2017, spent '17-'18 and '18-'19 in the OHL, '19-'20 primarily in the AHL, and going into the '20-'21 season we're talking about him on the bubble. And he's a first rounder. Lindblom was also a 5th rounder, he took 3.5 years after his draft to make the NHL. His only real knock was skating though and he got that under control.

So if I were a betting man, if Desnoyers makes the NHL, I'd bet it'd be in 2024.
 

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He's got a long way to go I think. According to this article (NHL Draft Pick Probabilities) only 15% of 5th rounders play > 99 games in the NHL. So he's still got a long way to go to beat those odds at all.

But if things do go smoothly and he keeps getting better and better, I would expect this year and next year in the QMJHL. The year after with the Phantoms. And then we could start talking about being on the NHL/AHL bubble at training camp in 2023. But that's probably a best case scenario. Morgan Frost was drafted in 2017, spent '17-'18 and '18-'19 in the OHL, '19-'20 primarily in the AHL, and going into the '20-'21 season we're talking about him on the bubble. And he's a first rounder. Lindblom was also a 5th rounder, he took 3.5 years after his draft to make the NHL. His only real knock was skating though and he got that under control.

So if I were a betting man, if Desnoyers makes the NHL, I'd bet it'd be in 2024.
Btw. He will be called “Destroyer” by yours truly.
 

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He's got a long way to go I think. According to this article (NHL Draft Pick Probabilities) only 15% of 5th rounders play > 99 games in the NHL. So he's still got a long way to go to beat those odds at all.

But if things do go smoothly and he keeps getting better and better, I would expect this year and next year in the QMJHL. The year after with the Phantoms. And then we could start talking about being on the NHL/AHL bubble at training camp in 2023. But that's probably a best case scenario. Morgan Frost was drafted in 2017, spent '17-'18 and '18-'19 in the OHL, '19-'20 primarily in the AHL, and going into the '20-'21 season we're talking about him on the bubble. And he's a first rounder. Lindblom was also a 5th rounder, he took 3.5 years after his draft to make the NHL. His only real knock was skating though and he got that under control.

So if I were a betting man, if Desnoyers makes the NHL, I'd bet it'd be in 2024.
I was thinking more in terms of him sweetening the pot in a trade we might want to make. 2024 is too long for him to be added to a trade.
 

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Btw. He will be called “Destroyer” by yours truly.
Lol! That's what I wanted his name to sound like. I was very disappointed when I heard it pronounced day-noy-yay. Silly French.
 

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I was thinking more in terms of him sweetening the pot in a trade we might want to make. 2024 is too long for him to be added to a trade.

Oh for sure. I think beyond Frost, York, and Zamula; the rest of the pool is ripe for trades. Even those 3 are if the deal is right. Doesn't make a ton of sense for the Flyers to hold on to all of these guys now. The window is opening, they won't have time or space to wait for most of these guys.
 

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Lol! That's what I wanted his name to sound like. I was very disappointed when I heard it pronounced day-noy-yay. Silly French.
Your father was a hamster.........
 

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Man I think we're going to have the shortened season version.

Yep. Only makes sense really. I can't see them trying to compete against the Olympics for air time. Particularly since NBC has the rights to both. Plus it gives them an out to get back on a normal schedule and start 2021-22 like normal in Sept/Oct next year.
 

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Man I think we're going to have the shortened season version.
Im good with 72 games. We aren't missing that much and it keeps the old men Gee and Jake fresher. The problem i have with this season is with this current defense we aren't cup contenders.
 
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