2018 NBA offseason

[shopson67]

i always thought the Heat made a lot of sense for Butler.

Not sure how happy Wade will be...losing minutes for sure.

 

[shopson67]

Yeah, I said this about Jimmy Butler's trade list.

It's the anti-Durant move.

But, what it actually highlights, for me anyway, is that people will criticize you no matter what path you choose.

So, might as well take the one that makes you the happiest.

It's an anti-Durant move, but to what end? To be "the man" and get paid. Not to win necessarily, but for ego and $$$.

 

[tlance]

Reading yours and @Mecca posts, got me wondering about another motivation for him as well.

When he went to the Heat, he took a lot of criticism for going to a "stacked team". Heck, people were wanting to put an asterisk next to the titles he won with the Heat because of it.

When he returned to the Cavs, with the emergence of Kyrie and the trade for Kevin Love, he was once again criticized for going to a stacked team.

While the Lakers do have a promising young core, the one thing that can't be said is that he went to a stacked team.

I wonder if that played into his decision at all?

Was thinking the same.

And I have said before, that criticism he got for returning to Cleveland was unwarranted. Cleveland had potential to be a legit championship contender, but they were very untested. LeBron led them there.

 

[WiggyRuss]

The problem here is you trying to decide what constitutes failure for him.

Imo....losing in the Finals, losing in the conference finals is still losing.

Obviously, more Championships immediately was not his #1 priority.

But, he went to a team with the ability to add another star.

Plus, he put his Son and wife's wants and needs first.

He's winning in life. Basketball is just a game.

I mean- 2 days ago at his presser LeBron said it himself Mecca- he said that business had nothing to do with his decision and that it was pure basketball- and

he absolutely has the right to do what he thinks is best for him and his family---- what i am saying- is what i have siad from the beginning- he could have chosen multiple situations that would have been better from a winning stand point.

I mean- i agree with you- i think he picked LA for his family and for his business ventures- but LeBron very forcefully (and very butt-hurt) refuted that.

As i said- if certain things fell in plcae he could be playing in CLE wiht KI and PG and booking a ticket to a 9th straight Finals- or with Embiid and Simmons and Reddick and Fultz in Philly or with Capela and Paul and Harden in Houston.

Instead he chose to go play with Lonzo Ball and Brandon Ingram and Kyle Kuzma and Rajon Rondo in LA and he tries to frame it as a baskebtall decision which is just insulting to our intelligence.

 

[bksballer89]

I mean- 2 days ago at his presser LeBron said it himself Mecca- he said that business had nothing to do with his decision and that it was pure basketball- and

he absolutely has the right to do what he thinks is best for him and his family---- what i am saying- is what i have siad from the beginning- he could have chosen multiple situations that would have been better from a winning stand point.

I mean- i agree with you- i think he picked LA for his family and for his business ventures- but LeBron very forcefully (and very butt-hurt) refuted that.

As i said- if certain things fell in plcae he could be playing in CLE wiht KI and PG and booking a ticket to a 9th straight Finals- or with Embiid and Simmons and Reddick and Fultz in Philly or with Capela and Paul and Harden in Houston.

Instead he chose to go play with Lonzo Ball and Brandon Ingram and Kyle Kuzma and Rajon Rondo in LA and he tries to frame it as a baskebtall decision which is just insulting to our intelligence.

Good video to watch on this topic from First take yesterday @Mecca @WiggyRuss

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Instead he chose to go play with Lonzo Ball and Brandon Ingram and Kyle Kuzma and Rajon Rondo in LA and he tries to frame it as a baskebtall decision which is just insulting to our intelligence.

As opposed to sticking around in cleveland where he's going to play with a guy who doesn't know the score at the end of the game?

Yeah i'm sure that would have been the better way forward...

 

[bksballer89]

I saw that. Was thinking maybe that was their rating for the playoffs?

Still wouldn't be it. Cavs DEF RTG in the playoffs that year was 103.5

Starting to think it was a made up # by him lol

 

[WiggyRuss]

Good video to watch on this topic from First take yesterday @Mecca @WiggyRuss

thanks...ill def watch once i get home

 

[Bolts]

Kings are gonna let the Suns take their spot in the Butler trade and not get back a draft pick they need?

 

[CitySushi]

Can't wait for the season to start. My feelings summed up:

And if you don't like it:

 

[Black Adam]

As supposed to sticking around in cleveland where he's going to play with a guy who doesn't know the score at the end of the game?

Yeah i'm sure that would have been the better way forward...

J. R. is still a classic...

 

[tlance]

I mean- 2 days ago at his presser LeBron said it himself Mecca- he said that business had nothing to do with his decision and that it was pure basketball- and

he absolutely has the right to do what he thinks is best for him and his family---- what i am saying- is what i have siad from the beginning- he could have chosen multiple situations that would have been better from a winning stand point.

I mean- i agree with you- i think he picked LA for his family and for his business ventures- but LeBron very forcefully (and very butt-hurt) refuted that.

As i said- if certain things fell in plcae he could be playing in CLE wiht KI and PG and booking a ticket to a 9th straight Finals- or with Embiid and Simmons and Reddick and Fultz in Philly or with Capela and Paul and Harden in Houston.

Instead he chose to go play with Lonzo Ball and Brandon Ingram and Kyle Kuzma and Rajon Rondo in LA and he tries to frame it as a baskebtall decision which is just insulting to our intelligence.

Are you sure that joining another stacked team is best for his basketball legacy?

I honestly think otherwise. Had he chosen say Philly, it would have been championship or bust from the jump, even though they would still be a serious longshot to beat GS this year. While they would probably get a title at some point, you never know. The LBJ/Simmons fit is questionable and Embiid is one wrong step away from being out for the season. Failure to win in Philly would absolutely hurt his legacy.

In LA?

Expectations are lower than ever for LeBron. I also think he realized last season that he can still gain ground on MJ even without titles. But, he can only do that on a team with relatively low expectations. If LeBron plays 75+ games and leads the Lakers to 50 wins, he should get MVP. Maybe next summer they can sign somebody else and rejoin the championship chase. In the meantime, LeBron can go Russell Westbrook and chase that elusive MVP.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

I mean- 2 days ago at his presser LeBron said it himself Mecca- he said that business had nothing to do with his decision and that it was pure basketball- and

he absolutely has the right to do what he thinks is best for him and his family---- what i am saying- is what i have siad from the beginning- he could have chosen multiple situations that would have been better from a winning stand point.

I mean- i agree with you- i think he picked LA for his family and for his business ventures- but LeBron very forcefully (and very butt-hurt) refuted that.

As i said- if certain things fell in plcae he could be playing in CLE wiht KI and PG and booking a ticket to a 9th straight Finals- or with Embiid and Simmons and Reddick and Fultz in Philly or with Capela and Paul and Harden in Houston.

Instead he chose to go play with Lonzo Ball and Brandon Ingram and Kyle Kuzma and Rajon Rondo in LA and he tries to frame it as a baskebtall decision which is just insulting to our intelligence.

I get your point.

I don't believe his decision was just about basketball, despite what he says.

Athletes don't always tell us the truth.

Ffs, Towns just said Butler had nothing to do with him not signing his extension.

Yet, he put pen to paper as soon as Jimmy asked for a trade.

Coincidence?

Nah

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Not sure how happy Wade will be...losing minutes for sure.

They were able to coexist just fine in Chicago.

Well, with eachother anyway.

 

[trojanfan12]

I don't believe his decision was just about basketball, despite what he says.

Lebron didn't say it was only about basketball. He has said several times that his family was a huge part of the decision.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Are you sure that joining another stacked team is best for his basketball legacy?

I honestly think otherwise. Had he chosen say Philly, it would have been championship or bust from the jump, even though they would still be a serious longshot to beat GS this year. While they would probably get a title at some point, you never know. The LBJ/Simmons fit is questionable and Embiid is one wrong step away from being out for the season. Failure to win in Philly would absolutely hurt his legacy.

In LA?

Expectations are lower than ever for LeBron. I also think he realized last season that he can still gain ground on MJ even without titles. But, he can only do that on a team with relatively low expectations. If LeBron plays 75+ games and leads the Lakers to 50 wins, he should get MVP. Maybe next summer they can sign somebody else and rejoin the championship chase. In the meantime, LeBron can go Russell Westbrook and chase that elusive MVP.

i mean if he can get to the Finals or win a championship or something sure

but no one is gonna give him any kind of credit- and rightly so- for a round 1 playoff win- which is what i think most of us think is the MOST LIKELY outcome of the season - with the basement being missing the playoffs and the absolute top making it to the WCF.

you dont pass michael getting your ass bounced in the 2nd round.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Lebron didn't say it was only about basketball. He has said several times that his family was a huge part of the decision.

Lebron didn't say it was only about basketball. He has said several times that his family was a huge part of the decision.

to quote LeBron

“My decision was based solely on my family and the Lakers,”

 

[CitySushi]

Background info, Bob Fitzgerald is the tv play by play man for the Warriors and Jim Barnett is the tv analyst for the Warriors. Only facts in this video, with the last one being most accurate.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Killed at work again.

My new name is The Rain-maker.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Killed at work again.

My new name is The Rain-maker.