2017-2018 NBA Regular Season Thread

[LAD]

Let's hope the players do too.

Some of these quick techs are ridiculous.

But, last night doesn't fall in that category.

I'm no longer willing to give Durant the benefit of the doubt because we have been here before with him.

Despite what he says, he clearly hasn't learned his lesson.

His words last time he got kicked out for the exact same thing....



Kevin Durant is apologizing to referee James Williams for behaving like a "jerk," using an expletive to describe how he acted during a victory against the Knicks on Tuesday night when the NBA Finals MVP was ejected late for a second technical.


"I wish I had handled that better obviously but it was kind of a heat-of-the-moment for me. I could be better. It was a great learning experience for me though," Durant said after practice. "... I wasn't getting picked on last night. I was being a diva last night. I've got to just own up to it. I watched it when I got home. I was wondering why he was coming at me so hard but then I watched the plays I was like, 'Yeah, I looked like a jerk out there.' It was bad. Luckily we won and we can move past it and I kind of owned up to it. I'll be better next time."

And the the same expectation of being better should fall on the part of the refs. Clearly they haven't gotten better at their jobs - which is a driver of the players' reactions. You can't have fault on one side but not the other. And ironically if they were better at not only doing their jobs (the refs) but also accepting accountability when they've made a mistake that probably would help clean this problem up in terms of their relationships with players.

We can't say "oh refs are human too" but then expect guys to accept getting beat up every night without consequence for the defender.

 

[Black Adam]

Nevitt was smooth but he didn't have Mark Madsen's dance moves.


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even da brothas were in the background sayin' "that boy got it goin' on"...

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

nah, i don't think NEWER ones are the answer...

I think the point tf12 is valid. they kinda just have to understand the situations better and temper their rulings accordingly...

in the heat of the moment easier said than done, i know...

Oh, no doubt...

The problem here is the amount of turnover all at once.

You can't have all these new refs with no veteran leadership to guide them.

The NBA really dropped the ball with that.

Look at that Toronto game.

They tossed the Coach for something a fan said.

Obviously, they need to be much better.

With that being said, the refs are human beings too.

Nobody wants to be embarrassed.

 

[LAD]

So, you want them to bring in NEWER ref's?

Maybe they can steal some from the NCAA.

How about some that have a clear understanding of how to officiate - and that realize these guys that are playing are also human? It often appears as though they double down on bad calls often - and that they're not trying to learn the game & get better with experience. It would see that this far into the season they would have a better feel for the games & how they should be officiating.

I mean, they are missing very blatant calls, play after play - which to some may seem purposeful.

 

[Wamu]

even da brothas were in the background sayin' "that boy got it goin' on"...

I'm surprised he didn't break his ankle gettin' his groove on.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

And the the same expectation of being better should fall on the part of the refs. Clearly they haven't gotten better at their jobs - which is a driver of the players' reactions. You can't have fault on one side but not the other. And ironically if they were better at not only doing their jobs (the refs) but also accepting accountability when they've made a mistake that probably would help clean this problem up in terms of their relationships with players.

We can't say "oh refs are human too" but then expect guys to accept getting beat up every night without consequence for the defender.

I agree 100%.

They have been awful and need to do better.

Durant was fouled, no dispute.

But, he earned his ejection.

That Ref was walking away when Durant let loose.

 

[LAD]

What's Tim Donaghy doing these days? I'm sure he could help fix the NBA.

Ironically, his officiating days didn't seem to be THIS obvious.

 

[Black Adam]

I'm surprised he didn't break his ankle gettin' his groove on.

lol, hey give it up for Mad Dawg. if he HAD fractured an ankle then it woulda been the offseason...

that's KINDA smart...

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

How about some that have a clear understanding of how to officiate - and that realize these guys that are playing are also human? It often appears as though they double down on bad calls often - and that they're not trying to learn the game & get better with experience. It would see that this far into the season they would have a better feel for the games & how they should be officiating.

I mean, they are missing very blatant calls, play after play - which to some may seem purposeful.

They miss blatant calls every year, not just this one.

* See the greatest shot ever by Jordan with a blatant push off

They need to get better. But, replacing them all will create the same situation we are dealing with today.

I also think they should stop putting out that L2R.

Is it supposed to make us feel better that they admit they were wrong?

 

[LAD]

I agree 100%.

They have been awful and need to do better.

Durant was fouled, no dispute.

But, he earned his ejection.

That Ref was walking away when Durant let loose.

I think the other piece to this is players feel like they can't express themselves. Hard to be yourself when you have bottled up tension.

 

[msgkings322]

Thompson being back is good news for the Warriors for sure. Durant's back as well too I believe.

OK, now it's official. This is some very subtle humor you got going on here. Props.

 

[Wamu]

Ironically, his officiating days didn't seem to be THIS obvious.

No they did not.

 

[Wamu]

lol, hey give it up for Mad Dawg. if he HAD fractured an ankle then it woulda been the offseason...

that's KINDA smart...

He got mad skillz. How is he not leading an NBA dance crew right now?

 

[LAD]

They miss blatant calls every year, not just this one.

* See the greatest shot ever by Jordan with a blatant push off

They need to get better. But, replacing them all will create the same situation we are dealing with today.

I also think they should stop putting out that L2R.

Is it supposed to make us feel better that they admit they were wrong?

I understand there will be missed calls - but this season has been riddled with them. They've missed calls they shouldn't have though. And the fact that they are repeat offenders of this is the point. How do you miss a call when someone has been slapped across the head? On a separate play JaVale went up for a layup & came out of the pack with his headband literally down around his eyes. When he gestures to the refs, they ignore him. How is that working on establishing a relationship with the players?

My only point is there is bottled up tension for these players - specifically with the refs. When they can no longer take it & it explodes the refs are responding to that with throwing them out. There has to be a better way that can relieve the pressure on both sides before there's an explosion.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

I think the other piece to this is players feel like they can't express themselves. Hard to be yourself when you have bottled up tension.

Lmfao....

Expressing yourself and saying call the foul you bitch ass mutherfucker are two very different things.

 

[msgkings322]

Lmfao....

Expressing yourself and saying call the foul you bitch ass mutherfucker are two very different things.

You both have a point. KD had every right to bitch, but that's never the way to do it.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

I understand there will be missed calls - but this season has been riddled with them. They've missed calls they shouldn't have though. And the fact that they are repeat offenders of this is the point. How do you miss a call when someone has been slapped across the head? On a separate play JaVale went up for a layup & came out of the pack with his headband literally down around his eyes. When he gestures to the refs, they ignore him. How is that working on establishing a relationship with the players?

My only point is there is bottled up tension for these players - specifically with the refs. When they can no longer take it & it explodes the refs are responding to that with throwing them out. There has to be a better way that can relieve the pressure on both sides before there's an explosion.

How about you don't curse the ref out?

LeBron gets hacked several times a game.

Has he ever responded this way?

Durant went full on Sacto Boogie Cousins.

He's wrong, missed calls and all.

He got hit on the arm, not pushed into the stands.

His response was overkill and he even said he shouldn't have gone there.

 

[LAD]

Lmfao....

Expressing yourself and saying call the foul you bitch ass mutherfucker are two very different things.

Correct, the latter is an explosion, most likely from being ignored the first few times of trying.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

You both have a point. KD had every right to bitch, but that's never the way to do it.

Exactly.

He totally got fouled.

But, he earned that ejection.

My biggest issue is that those techs are not going to get rescinded.

So, he's 2 away from a suspension.

I swear to GAWD if the Rockets win the chip because Durant gets suspended in a playoff game, I will sport a Warriors avatar FOREVER.

The Warriors are the only team that can beat them....imo

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Correct, the latter is an explosion, most likely from being ignored the first few times of trying.

Sure.

....and the Warriors paid the price for that explosion.

Luckily, you aren't playing for anything.