2016 Non-Waiver Trade Deadline: Winners and Losers

[Villain]

Who do you got?

 

[RobToxin]

Depends but if it leads to a pennant and World Series, gotta list the Rangers as winners. On the other hand, they could be big losers if their Win Now approach doesn't win now!

 

[calsnowskier]

Depends but if it leads to a pennant and World Series, gotta list the Rangers as winners. On the other hand, they could be big losers if their Win Now approach doesn't win now!

Couldnt that be said for all active teams?

If the Giants win, they clearly won the deadline.

If the Cubs win, they clearly won the deadline.

If the Indians win, they clearly won the deadline.

If the Dodgers win, they clearly won the deadline.

If the Marlins win, they clearly won the deadline.

If the Blue Jays win, they clearly won the deadline.

...

 

[calsnowskier]

Off the top of my head....

The Yankees got a shit-ton of prospects, and IMPACT prospects.
The Brewers got some very nice pieces.
The Padres dumped a ton of salary and got some nice pieces.

I think the SELLER winner is probably the Yankees.

The BUYER winners??? Ignoring cost, I think the Rangers did a good job. The Giants added some nice pieces. The Indians got screwed by Lucroy.

 

[molsaniceman]

Couldnt that be said for all active teams?

If the Giants win, they clearly won the deadline.

If the Cubs win, they clearly won the deadline.

If the Indians win, they clearly won the deadline.

If the Dodgers win, they clearly won the deadline.

If the Marlins win, they clearly won the deadline.

If the Blue Jays win, they clearly won the deadline.

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hey red sox got abad dammit

 

[calsnowskier]

hey red sox got abad dammit

 

[RobToxin]

Couldnt that be said for all active teams?

If the Giants win, they clearly won the deadline.

If the Cubs win, they clearly won the deadline.

If the Indians win, they clearly won the deadline.

If the Dodgers win, they clearly won the deadline.

If the Marlins win, they clearly won the deadline.

If the Blue Jays win, they clearly won the deadline.

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You missing the other part of it. Sure, any team that wins it all won the deadline. But how many of them can also say they lost the deadline if they don't?

Look at what Texas gave away to get what they got.

They either win big. Or lose big.

There is no in-between for them.

 

[calsnowskier]

You missing the other part of it. Sure, any team that wins it all won the deadline. But how many of them can also say they lost the deadline if they don't?

Look at what Texas gave away to get what they got.

They either win big. Or lose big.

There is no in-between for them.

The Cubs gave up huge prospects for a rental reliever.

But I get your point. If the Giants dont win, for example, they still have all three of their purchases next year.

 

[Villain]

Couldnt that be said for all active teams?

If the Giants win, they clearly won the deadline.

If the Cubs win, they clearly won the deadline.

If the Indians win, they clearly won the deadline.

If the Dodgers win, they clearly won the deadline.

If the Marlins win, they clearly won the deadline.

If the Blue Jays win, they clearly won the deadline.

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Yes, so responses with more conviction will earn more points.

 

[calsnowskier]

Yes, so responses with more conviction will earn more points.

 

[romeo212000]

The Cubs gave up huge prospects for a rental reliever.

But I get your point. If the Giants dont win, for example, they still have all three of their purchases next year.

The rangers have two of their three next year too.

 

[fordman84]

You missing the other part of it. Sure, any team that wins it all won the deadline. But how many of them can also say they lost the deadline if they don't?

Look at what Texas gave away to get what they got.

They either win big. Or lose big.

There is no in-between for them.

I think we only got one rental in Beltran, and the guys we gave up have a high upside but there are known issues with them. I'll trade a prospect for a known commodity every single time.

 

[fordman84]

Toss up between White Sox and Phillies as the losers. Could have both had a good haul but got greedy and got nothing. Hellickson and Sale won't clear waivers, so they are stuck with them. I guess Philly gets a sandwhich pick when he leaves. ChiSox get to deal with a pissed off Sale for the rest of the year and try again in the offseason to unload him.

 

[Villain]

Toss up between White Sox and Phillies as the losers. Could have both had a good haul but got greedy and got nothing. Hellickson and Sale won't clear waivers, so they are stuck with them. I guess Philly gets a sandwhich pick when he leaves. ChiSox get to deal with a pissed off Sale for the rest of the year and try again in the offseason to unload him.

Being "stuck" with Chris Sale and Jose Quintana doesn't make you a loser.

 

[fordman84]

Being "stuck" with Chris Sale and Jose Quintana doesn't make you a loser.

When Sale doesn't want to be there, has said so and acted out...yes, it does.

 

[calsnowskier]

Review of moves since the 25th (arbitrary date, granted)...

Arizona
got Vicente Campos
lost Mike Freeman
lost Tyler Clippard
lost Josh Collmenter

Atlanta
got Travis Demeritte
got Matt Kemp
lost Hector Olivera
lost Lucas Harrell
lost Dario Alvarez


Baltimore
got Steve Pearce
got Wade Miley
lost Jonah Heim
lost Julio Borbon
lost Chaz Roe
lost Ariel Miranda

Boston
got Fernando Abad
lost Pat Light

Chicago (a)
got Charlie Tilson
lost Zach Duke

Chicago (N)
got Joe Smith
got Aroldis Chapman
lost Jesus Castillo
lost Adam Warren
lost Gleyber Torres
lost Billy McKinney
lost Rashad Crawford
lost Clayton Richard

Cincinnati
got Dilson Herrera
got Max Wotell
lost Jay Bruce

Cleveland
got Brandon Guyer
got Andrew Miller
lost Jhonleider Salinas
lost Nathan Lukes
lost Juan Uribe
lost Ben Heller
lost Clint Frazier
lost JP Feyereisen
lost Justus Sheffield
lost Joey Butler

Colorado
lost Brandon Barnes

Houston
got Guadalupe Chavez
got Yordan Alvarez
lost Scott Feldman
lost Josh Fields

KC
got Billy Butler
lost Brett Eibner

LA (A)
got Ricky Nolasco
got Alex Meyer
got Jesus Castillo
lost Hector Santiago
lost Alan Busenitz
lost Joe Smith
lost Craig Gentry
lost Daniel Nava

LA (N)
got Josh Reddick
got Rich Hill
got Jesse Chavez
got Josh Fields
lost Frankie Montas
lost Grant Holmes
lost Jharel Cotton
lost Mike Bolsinger
lost Yordan Alvarez

Miami
got Andrew Cashner
got Tayron Guerrero
lost Jarred Cosart
lost Carter Capps
lost Josh Naylor

Milwaukee
got Andrew Susac
got Phil Bickford
got Lewis Brinson
got Luis Ortiz
got PTBNL
got Adalberto Mejia
lost Eduardo Nunez
lost Will Smith
lost Jonathan Lucroy
lost Jeremy Jeffress

Minnesota
got Pat Light
got Hector Santiago
got Alan Busenitz
lost Fernando Abad
lost Ricky Nolasco
lost alex Meyer

NY (N)
got Jonathon Niese
got Jay Bruce
lost Antonio Bastardo
lost Dilson Herrera
lost Max Wotell

NY (A)
got Nick Green
got Erik Swanson
got Dillon Tate
got PTBNL (Pit)
got PTBNL (Pit)
got Adam Warren
got Gleyber Torres
got Billy McKinney
got Rashad Crawford
got Tyler Clippard
got Ben Heller
got Clint Frazier
got JP Feyereisen
got Justus Sheffield
lost Andrew Miller
lost Vicente Campos
lost Aroldis Chapman
lost Carlos Beltran
lost Ivan Nova

Oakland
got Frankie Montas
got Grant Holmes
got Jharel Cotton
got Brett Eibner
lost Billy Burns
lost Josh Reddick
lost Rich Hill

Pittsburgh
got Antonio Bastardo
got Ivan Nova
got Drew Hutchison
got Felipe Rivero
got Taylor Hearn
lost Mark Melancon
lost Jonathon Niese
lost PTBNL (NYY)
lost PTBNL (NYY)
lost Francisco Liriano
lost Harold Ramirez
lost Reese McGuire

San Diego
got Hansel Rodriguez
got Jarred Cosart
got Carter Capps
got Josh Naylor
lost Matt Kemp
lost Andrew Cashner
lost Tayron Guerrero
lost Melvin Upton Jr

San Francisco
got Will Smith
got Matt Moore
got Eduardo Nunez
lost Adalberto Mejia
lost Andrew Susac
lost Phil Bickford
lost Matt Duffy
lost Lucius Fox
lost Michael Santos

Seattle
got Mike Freeman
got Drew Storen
got Ariel Miranda
lost Wade Miley
lost Joaquin Benoit
lost Patrick Kivlehan

St Louis
got Zach Duke
lost Charlie Tilson

TB
got Jhonleider Salinas
got Nathan Lukes
got Jonah Heim
got Matt Duffy
got Lucius Fox
got Michael Santos
lost Brandon Guyer
lost Steve Pearce
lost Matt Moore

Texas
got Carlos Beltran
got Jonathan Lucroy
got Jeremy Jeffress
got Lucas Harrell
got Dario Alvarez
lost Travis Demeritte
lost Nick Green
lost Erik Swanson
lost Dillon Tate
lost Lewis Brinson
lost Luis Ortiz
lost PTBNL (Mil)
lost Bryan Holaday
lost Bobby Wilson

Toronto
got Scott Feldman
got Mike Bolsinger
got Francisco Liriano
got Harold Ramirez
got Reese McGuire
got Joaquin Benoit
got Melvin Upton Jr
lost Hansel Rodriguez
lost Drew Storen
lost Guadalupe Chavez
lost Jesse Chavez
lost Franklin Morales
lost Drew Hutchison
lost Ben Rowen

Washington
got Mark Melancon
lost Felipe Rivero
lost Taylor Hearn

 

[Erie Warrior]

I wouldn't say "lost" when talking about Juan Uribe.

 

[fordman84]

Review of moves since the 25th (arbitrary date, granted)...

Arizona
got Vicente Campos
lost Mike Freeman
lost Tyler Clippard
lost Josh Collmenter

Atlanta
got Travis Demeritte
got Matt Kemp
lost Hector Olivera
lost Lucas Harrell
lost Dario Alvarez


Baltimore
got Steve Pearce
got Wade Miley
lost Jonah Heim
lost Julio Borbon
lost Chaz Roe
lost Ariel Miranda

Boston
got Fernando Abad
lost Pat Light

Chicago (a)
got Charlie Tilson
lost Zach Duke

Chicago (N)
got Joe Smith
got Aroldis Chapman
lost Jesus Castillo
lost Adam Warren
lost Gleyber Torres
lost Billy McKinney
lost Rashad Crawford
lost Clayton Richard

Cincinnati
got Dilson Herrera
got Max Wotell
lost Jay Bruce

Cleveland
got Brandon Guyer
got Andrew Miller
lost Jhonleider Salinas
lost Nathan Lukes
lost Juan Uribe
lost Ben Heller
lost Clint Frazier
lost JP Feyereisen
lost Justus Sheffield
lost Joey Butler

Colorado
lost Brandon Barnes

Houston
got Guadalupe Chavez
got Yordan Alvarez
lost Scott Feldman
lost Josh Fields

KC
got Billy Butler
lost Brett Eibner

LA (A)
got Ricky Nolasco
got Alex Meyer
got Jesus Castillo
lost Hector Santiago
lost Alan Busenitz
lost Joe Smith
lost Craig Gentry
lost Daniel Nava

LA (N)
got Josh Reddick
got Rich Hill
got Jesse Chavez
got Josh Fields
lost Frankie Montas
lost Grant Holmes
lost Jharel Cotton
lost Mike Bolsinger
lost Yordan Alvarez

Miami
got Andrew Cashner
got Tayron Guerrero
lost Jarred Cosart
lost Carter Capps
lost Josh Naylor

Milwaukee
got Andrew Susac
got Phil Bickford
got Lewis Brinson
got Luis Ortiz
got PTBNL
got Adalberto Mejia
lost Eduardo Nunez
lost Will Smith
lost Jonathan Lucroy
lost Jeremy Jeffress

Minnesota
got Pat Light
got Hector Santiago
got Alan Busenitz
lost Fernando Abad
lost Ricky Nolasco
lost alex Meyer

NY (N)
got Jonathon Niese
got Jay Bruce
lost Antonio Bastardo
lost Dilson Herrera
lost Max Wotell

NY (A)
got Nick Green
got Erik Swanson
got Dillon Tate
got PTBNL (Pit)
got PTBNL (Pit)
got Adam Warren
got Gleyber Torres
got Billy McKinney
got Rashad Crawford
got Tyler Clippard
got Ben Heller
got Clint Frazier
got JP Feyereisen
got Justus Sheffield
lost Andrew Miller
lost Vicente Campos
lost Aroldis Chapman
lost Carlos Beltran
lost Ivan Nova

Oakland
got Frankie Montas
got Grant Holmes
got Jharel Cotton
got Brett Eibner
lost Billy Burns
lost Josh Reddick
lost Rich Hill

Pittsburgh
got Antonio Bastardo
got Ivan Nova
got Drew Hutchison
got Felipe Rivero
got Taylor Hearn
lost Mark Melancon
lost Jonathon Niese
lost PTBNL (NYY)
lost PTBNL (NYY)
lost Francisco Liriano
lost Harold Ramirez
lost Reese McGuire

San Diego
got Hansel Rodriguez
got Jarred Cosart
got Carter Capps
got Josh Naylor
lost Matt Kemp
lost Andrew Cashner
lost Tayron Guerrero
lost Melvin Upton Jr

San Francisco
got Will Smith
got Matt Moore
got Eduardo Nunez
lost Adalberto Mejia
lost Andrew Susac
lost Phil Bickford
lost Matt Duffy
lost Lucius Fox
lost Michael Santos

Seattle
got Mike Freeman
got Drew Storen
got Ariel Miranda
lost Wade Miley
lost Joaquin Benoit
lost Patrick Kivlehan

St Louis
got Zach Duke
lost Charlie Tilson

TB
got Jhonleider Salinas
got Nathan Lukes
got Jonah Heim
got Matt Duffy
got Lucius Fox
got Michael Santos
lost Brandon Guyer
lost Steve Pearce
lost Matt Moore

Texas
got Carlos Beltran
got Jonathan Lucroy
got Jeremy Jeffress
got Lucas Harrell
got Dario Alvarez
lost Travis Demeritte
lost Nick Green
lost Erik Swanson
lost Dillon Tate
lost Lewis Brinson
lost Luis Ortiz
lost PTBNL (Mil)
lost Bryan Holaday
lost Bobby Wilson

Toronto
got Scott Feldman
got Mike Bolsinger
got Francisco Liriano
got Harold Ramirez
got Reese McGuire
got Joaquin Benoit
got Melvin Upton Jr
lost Hansel Rodriguez
lost Drew Storen
lost Guadalupe Chavez
lost Jesse Chavez
lost Franklin Morales
lost Drew Hutchison
lost Ben Rowen

Washington
got Mark Melancon
lost Felipe Rivero
lost Taylor Hearn

Texas hasn't lost Holaday or Wilson yet, that I know of.

 

[romeo212000]

Texas hasn't lost Holaday or Wilson yet, that I know of.

Nope. Be interesting to see if either clear waivers.

 

[calsnowskier]

Texas hasn't lost Holaday or Wilson yet, that I know of.

I didn't do a deep investigation of each move. But if I saw a player DFA'd, with no corosponding assignment, I included him on the list.