2014 Offseason

[scotsman1948]

The difference is that I have thought out how they would fit or not fit and have discussed it on here and you refuse to do anything other than to say it will work out with all three guys. Based on what JD has said it looks like Beltre will be extended at some point so where will he play in 2017? Where will Choo and Prince play then? Where does Gallo play? What about Rua, Mazara, Williams, Brinson, and Cordell? Smolinski? Where do you see those guys fitting in? What about the pitching staff. Between Holland, Yu, Perez, Chi Chi, Thompson, Oritz, Jackson, Lewis, Harrison, Martinez and Asher who is here and who is gone? If you don't have any idea about those guys then how can you say Choo and Prince have a place here long term.

Three aging players in Beltre, Choo and Fielder will not be the centerpiece in 2017 or this team will be in a whole lot more trouble than they have been in for awhile.

If and it is a big IF they do extend Beltre and attempt to move him to 1st then i foresee Fielder at DH (where he probably should be now) and unless things change drastically i still see Choo in RF in 2017. i also see Elvis, Odor and probably Alfaro & Chiniros at C with Martin in CF. i see Darvish, Holland, Perez and possibly Gallardo in the rotation. that leaves LF and 3B open and i probably would expect that Gallo & Rua fill those positions. the 5th starter position will probably be Chi Chi's to lose and the others will be in the minors except Harrison who should retire.

i say that Choo & Fielder have a place in long term because both have contracts that no other team with any sense is going to take on unless we sweeten the pot with a ton of money & prospects and i don't see JD doing that. and i've said this for quite a while but you won't accept that point. you want them gone and you will do anything to get rid of them. Name a team that would take on Prince's or Choo's remaining salary

 

[jta4437]

If we only commented on things that we make a difference about when we comment then this board would be a lonely place.

Not really, seems we get by pretty well

Plus its a little different to do it for one or two guys going forward, but you're asking for a full roster analysis for 2017, what's the sense in that? Nobody has a damn clue

 

[jta4437]

If and it is a big IF they do extend Beltre and attempt to move him to 1st then i foresee Fielder at DH (where he probably should be now) and unless things change drastically i still see Choo in RF in 2017. i also see Elvis, Odor and probably Alfaro & Chiniros at C with Martin in CF. i see Darvish, Holland, Perez and possibly Gallardo in the rotation. that leaves LF and 3B open and i probably would expect that Gallo & Rua fill those positions. the 5th starter position will probably be Chi Chi's to lose and the others will be in the minors except Harrison who should retire.

i say that Choo & Fielder have a place in long term because both have contracts that no other team with any sense is going to take on unless we sweeten the pot with a ton of money & prospects and i don't see JD doing that. and i've said this for quite a while but you won't accept that point. you want them gone and you will do anything to get rid of them. Name a team that would take on Prince's or Choo's remaining salary

Martin's contract might be up right about the time that someone like Brinson is ready to go, but Brinson has to work on the hole in his swing a la Gallo

But it's true, one or two of Beltre/Fielder/Choo is on the outside looking in if ALL the young guys pan out

Potentially we have going forward:

Mazara in a COF spot

Gallo at 1B, 3B or COF

Brinson in CF

Rua at 1B/3B/COF

Nick Williams at a COF

Profar SS/2B/3B

That's potentially 5 people for 2 COF spots (Mazara, Choo, Gallo, Rua, Williams)

2 in CF (Martin, Brinson)

4 for 3B (Beltre, Gallo, Rua, Profar)

2 for SS (Andrus & Profar)

3 for 2B (Rua, Profar, Odor)

4 for 1B (Gallo, Beltre, Fielder, Rua)

C is pretty much Alfaro or Chirinos going forward, minus FA additions or trades

That's 14 guys for 9 spots, assuming EVERYONE pans out and is ready to go for 2017 (ANd I'm only taking into consideration the ones I seeing being POTENTIALLY ready in 2017)

Is that better saddles?

 

[donaldson79]

If we're trying to project this far forward, 2017, then it should be noted AB will have be going into his 20th season in 17 I believe. That's long in the tooth for anyone. But, his days of being a spot starter at either 1st/3rd, along with DH/PH duties may still present options for both him and the team.

Choo, IMO, may be a very intriguing player come about then as well. He still could play backup to either COF spot, DH/PH/PR and maybe even pick up some duty at 1st. Due to his offensive versatility - hit for power/avg - he may still have a solid place on the team.

If I had to pick of the 3 mentioned - Choo, AB or Prince, who are getting up there in age - those 2 may have a better opportunity than Prince. Once Prince's power is gone, I suspect is avg will be toast as well. Since he can't play D now at the only position he's assigned, there's no chance he does anything more than DH in the future.

 

[romeo212000]

It's very possible Fielder could extend his career into an incredible one and become a David Ortiz type player. Of course, selling that to him is the trick.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

Rangers game in 15! First broadcast of the year!

 

[DT LUNA]

Rangers game in 15! First broadcast of the year!

Tuned in and ready to go. channel 676.

 

[romeo212000]

Wow. I didn't realize this was on fox sports.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

Good test against Greinke today.

 

[romeo212000]

Ranaudo gets out of it. Acquits himself nicely.

 

[romeo212000]

Martin watches two fastballs roll in for strikes then had to swing at that trash.

Hit the reset button Martin.

 

[romeo212000]

Ludwick has looked like trash all spring. Send him to AAA.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

It seems like every time TAG and Busby try to make a point, real-time baseball makes them hypocrites.

 

[jta4437]

Hoying busting it hard down the line, he's got some nice wheels

 

[romeo212000]

He was safe.

 

[jta4437]

Hoying was safe....

 

[DT LUNA]

Safe at 2nd

 

[romeo212000]

Greinke has that change working today.

 

[romeo212000]

Elvis, you can talk all you want about re-committing yourself and all that jazz, but so far your on field performance says otherwise. Get your fucking act together.

 

[romeo212000]

That was a nice little hanger by Ranaudo.