2013 Offseason Player Transaction Thread

[romeo212000]

Holland can pack his bags now for all I care, so sick of seeing him pitch

I'd send Perez before holland. We know what he's capable of. Not totally sold on Perez.

 

[slugger82685]

I'd send Perez before holland. We know what he's capable of. Not totally sold on Perez.

I would much rather take a risk with Perez than to keep throwing Holland out there knowing he is nothing more than a #4 pitcher and we need guys to come in that are better than that or at least give the opportunity to show they are better.

 

[Windingmywatch]

The timeline for replacing Jeter just got shortened a bit ... that's going to increase Elvis' value to TEX and make it that much more difficult to sign an extension.

 

[romeo212000]

I'm telling you guys Elvis will not resign with Texas. Not with boras as his agent. If Profar is tearing up AAA at the allstar break it may behoove us to trade Elvis this year.

 

[Hambombs]

That's what I said. "I'll speculate ... "

It's my totally unscientific impression of Greinke of a guy who isn't a big guy ... about Holland's size ... who can be emotional and can tend to yap ... seems nervous in high leverage spots. I just don't see him being effective at RBIA with the heat and the bigger market for a full season not to mention a multi year program.

He did well at LAA in 13 starts after a rough start but he was not their #1 and so wasn't under the same pressure he would be under at TEX.

As I said ... I'm speculating ... just don't feel like he's commanding enough. I always thought Felix should have had the 2009 CY. He had good peripheral numbers but got most of his wins in the ALC (logically). Had wins outside the division of course ... but King's 19 wins I think were tougher.

Thats total nonsense. Hes gone 200+ innings 4 of the last 5 years. Hes a great #2 guy but probably a #1 on some teams alos and has the potential to be a #1 guy. I dont get the not very good under pressure besides the small sample size of pitching in the playoffs. I think he can be a very good pitcher here.

 

[scotsman1948]

I'm telling you guys Elvis will not resign with Texas. Not with boras as his agent. If Profar is tearing up AAA at the allstar break it may behoove us to trade Elvis this year.

you are probably right

 

[scotsman1948]

Which would you be more willing to give up... Holland or Perez?

(not saying either would be moved this offseason... just hypothetical)

i think we give on Holland first, perhaps this off-season

 

[Windingmywatch]

Thats total nonsense. Hes gone 200+ innings 4 of the last 5 years. Hes a great #2 guy but probably a #1 on some teams alos and has the potential to be a #1 guy. I dont get the not very good under pressure besides the small sample size of pitching in the playoffs. I think he can be a very good pitcher here.

Well there you are ... you "think he can be a very good pitcher here" ... and I don't. I can live with that.

 

[Xx srs bsns xX]

Well there you are ... you "think he can be a very good pitcher here" ... and I don't. I can live with that.

FWIW, i'm on your side.... I think Grienke would not do well here.

 

[Hambombs]

Well there you are ... you "think he can be a very good pitcher here" ... and I don't. I can live with that.

I still dont get the reason. He pitched for A big market team like the Angels and was pretty good.

 

[Hambombs]

On top of that he got a good amount of groundballs this year

 

[AGZBASEBALL]

Being a Groundball Pitcher is So Important at rangers Ballpark in Arlington. Our Park is a Graveyard for Flyball Pitchers.

 

[Windingmywatch]

I still dont get the reason. He pitched for A big market team like the Angels and was pretty good.

If you consider 3.53ERA, elevated HR/9, elevated BB/9 and lower SO/BB rates from the first half w/MIL as pretty good.

 

[romeo212000]

If you consider 3.53ERA, elevated HR/9, elevated BB/9 and lower SO/BB rates from the first half w/MIL as pretty good.

Couldn't that really be attributed to switching to pitching in the tougher AL? It's probably not good to lament is elevated peripherals if you don't give is the actual numbers as well.

 

[Hambombs]

If you consider 3.53ERA, elevated HR/9, elevated BB/9 and lower SO/BB rates from the first half w/MIL as pretty good.

I think his last 6-7 starts his era was under 2?

 

[Hambombs]

Grenkie and darvish had a 6 start stretch of best eras in the league

 

[AGZBASEBALL]

Greinke would be a Nice Addition to the Rangers Rotation.

 

[scotsman1948]

I think his last 6-7 starts his era was under 2?

last 6 starts, 2.11 ERA, 42.2 IP, 32 hits, 38 SO's

 

[bone3421]

i would be "fine" with signing grienke if thats what the rangers want

i would love if they could get price/cargo/upton in a trade

they have options and they have cash that is freeing up(my,josh???)

 

[bone3421]

my dream scenario would be trading for j. upton and price and locking them up

price,yu,harrison,holland,(whoever wins 5th spot)

ian,elvis,upton,beltre.....then it depends on who we didnt trade for the rest of the line-up......olt,mitch,gentry,murphy,soto,my,martin,cruz(no particular order)