2013 NCAA FB Season / 2014 NFL draft

[NinerSickness]

So I don't think 56 is going to be high enough to draft Moncrief.

I also don't think the 6th & 7th round picks have much of a chance to make the team. At the same time, with all the depth in this draft I think a lot of teams will want to trade down. That's why I hope the Niners package some later picks to jump ahead of the Jets & Ravens to get Moncrief. I think he could easily replace Crabtree in 2015.

Maybe trade up with Dallas again.

 

[NinerSickness]

Hey Bingo do you still think Ha Ha & Pryor are as good of prospects as Eric Reid after the combine? 'Cause they've both cemented my dissenting opinion.

Random fact: Eric Reid's 10 yard time is the same as Bradley Roby & Jason Verrett's times at 9 & 14 more pounds respectively. Reid's time would've tied for the top 10 yard time if he were in the 2014 draft.

 

[NinerSickness]

Ok I've decided what priority #1 needs to be in this draft...

GET DOMINIQUE EASLEY IN A 49ER UNIFORM!

Why? Because the guy is out of his mind. He's the Jim Harbaugh of D-linemen. He's so friggn' manic at the line of scrimmage his enthusiasm is going to become contagious. The Niners need more of that on the team. They have a nasty attitude with JSmith, but I don't see anyone really taking that torch when he retires.

The Niners need this guy IMO. Tank doesn't strike me as a type A kind of alpha male. Dorsey could develop into that kind of guy, but he's in a contract year. RayMac is a good veteran presence, but I don't know that he's as vocal & outgoing as Easley.

If the Niners can get both Stephon Tuitt & Dominique Easley in this draft the D-line will be set for at least couple of years, and that's got to be the absolute top priority IMO. Keep the D-line strong!

 

[BINGO]

Welp, Justin Gilbert is completely out of reach right now (my #1 CB). Bradley Roby (my #2 CB) would be a nice consolation prize if we went the DB route, but he might not be there either.

Matthews, Gilbert, and Roby are three of the top guys I wanted in the first.

Gilbert is my number guy. I just think that our coaching staff can work wonders with this kid. This is total opposite of what we have experienced over the years in developing WRs. Unlike the wide receiver position, our coaches have done an amazing job in developing our young defensive backs (especially corners) since the days of Shawnte Spencer. We ought to applaud them for that imagine what they can do with a player who is already blessed with rare physical skills that warrants a first round pick? Gilbert is in my top 10 overall ranking surpassing Anthony Barr. If we could somehow land this kid, we are set for years on defense with Reid back there to help out.

 

[BINGO]

Hey Bingo do you still think Ha Ha & Pryor are as good of prospects as Eric Reid after the combine? 'Cause they've both cemented my dissenting opinion.

Random fact: Eric Reid's 10 yard time is the same as Bradley Roby & Jason Verrett's times at 9 & 14 more pounds respectively. Reid's time would've tied for the top 10 yard time if he were in the 2014 draft.

Hell yeah!!!

Calvin Pryor - DB - Cardinals

NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock said Louisville's Calvin Pryor is "a bigger version of Bob Sanders."

High praise indeed from the respected evaluator, who ranks Pryor as his top safety prospect. Though Pryor manned free safety for the Cardinals, Mayock believes he possesses the versatility to handle strong as well. Pryor "flies to the football, and he's always around the football," said Mayock. NFL.com's Daniel Jeremiah respects Pryor's physical play: "Every tape you put in, you see violent collisions."
Source: NFL.com

Feb 25 - 8:13 PM


Ha Ha Clinton-Dix - DB - Crimson Tide

NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock believes Alabama S Ha Ha Clinton-Dix is the "prototype free safety in this draft."

Clinton-Dix ranks second on Mayock's list of safety prospects, following Louisville's Calvin Pryor. The analyst said Clinton-Dix is comfortable anywhere on the field, including in the slot. "There are some teams who think he can play corner," Mayock said. Rotoworld prefers Clinton-Dix to the Louisville product.

Feb 25 - 8:50 PM

 

[michaelwarner]

So I don't think 56 is going to be high enough to draft Moncrief.

I also don't think the 6th & 7th round picks have much of a chance to make the team. At the same time, with all the depth in this draft I think a lot of teams will want to trade down. That's why I hope the Niners package some later picks to jump ahead of the Jets & Ravens to get Moncrief. I think he could easily replace Crabtree in 2015.

Maybe trade up with Dallas again.

Sick, a couple of pages back you responded to my post about moving up to get a WR by saying that you wanted to move back. Now you want to trade up? Not being combative, just trying to follow the logic.

 

[NinerSickness]

Sick, a couple of pages back you responded to my post about moving up to get a WR by saying that you wanted to move back. Now you want to trade up? Not being combative, just trying to follow the logic.

Oh I meant trade back from 30 not 56. The meat of the draft is gonna be in the mid 2nd to early 3rd IMO. Amazing value there from what I can tell right now.

 

[michaelwarner]

Oh I meant trade back from 30 not 56. The meat of the draft is gonna be in the mid 2nd to early 3rd IMO. Amazing value there from what I can tell right now.

Got it.

 

[BINGO]

Johnny Manziel - QB - Player

ESPN's Ron Jaworski wouldn't draft Texas A&M QB Johnny Manziel "in the first three rounds."

"I'm not crazy about him, to be honest with you," Jaws said of the potential No. 1 overall pick. "I've only looked at five games. I wouldn't take him in the first three rounds. That's my opinion. It's incomplete right now. But he has not done a whole lot to me." Jaws is known for his strong — and often accurate — opinions on quarterbacks, but it's surprising he'd go to the extreme of calling Manziel a day-three pick. Manziel has the potential to be one of the most dissected and over-analyzed prospects in draft history.
Source: Philly Mag: Birds 24/7

Feb 25 - 11:15 PM

 

[NinerSickness]

Johnny Manziel - QB - Player

ESPN's Ron Jaworski wouldn't draft Texas A&M QB Johnny Manziel "in the first three rounds."

"Manziel has the potential to be one of the most dissected and over-analyzed prospects in draft history.
Source: Philly Mag: Birds 24/7

Feb 25 - 11:15 PM

Huh?

Every top QB in every draft is dissected and analyzed from every angle. That's kind of an empty thing to say.

 

[NinerSickness]

I don't have many "dislikes" in this draft, but here are a few of 'em post-combine:

David Yankey
Deone Bucannon. And it's not just because of how he spells Deone .
Clinton Dix. Not as good as advertised IMO.
Darqueze Dennard. He's good, but not #2 CB off the board good IMO.
Derek Carr. Just don't think he's any good. I'd take a flyer in the later rounds, but the fact that he's being talked about as a first round pick sounds like Christian Ponder 2.0

 

[4lifer9er]

How many guys who were projected in the top-30 going into this week have fallen out of it? Seems like most of the guys who were highly regarded going into the combine performed well.

I woul feel confident in saying Rashede Hageman would qualify for this statement

random quick thought.. just came to this comparison and "may" apply..

Rashede Hageman = Calais Campbell?

inconsistent motor, high physical upside, potential early second round pick it appears

 

[4lifer9er]

Theoretical Mock draft for NFL round one... just trying to get a break down of where it could break down when it comes to our pick. I will try to be non homerist and no trades will take place

1. Houston Texans -- Jadaveon Clowney, DE SCar
2. St. Lousi Rams -- Greg Robinson, OT, Aub
3. Jacksonville Jaguars -- Teddy Bridgewater, QB Louisville
4. Cleveland Browns -- Blake Bortles, QB UCF
5. Oakland Raiders -- Sammy Watkins, WR, Clem
6. Atlanta Falcons -- Khalil Mack, DE/OLB Buffaro
7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Anthony Barr, LB, UCLA
8. Minnesota Vikings -- Johnny Manziel, QB Tx A&M
9. Buffalo Bills -- Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, S, Ala
10. Detroit Lions -- Justin Gilbert, CB, OK ST
11. Tennessee Titans -- Timmy Jernigan, DT FSU
12. New York Giants -- Jake Matthews, OT Tx A&M
13. St. Louis Rams -- Mike Evans, WR Tx A&M
14. Chicago Bears -- Aaron Donald, DT Pur
15. Pittsburgh Steelers -- Taylor Lewan, OT Mich
16. Dallas Cowboys -- Calvin Pryor, S Lou
17. Baltimore Ravens -- Zach Martin, OT ND
18. New York Jets -- Eric Ebron, TE UNC
19. Miami Dolphins -- Zack Martin, OT Stan
20. Arizona Cardinals -- Louis Nix, DT ND
21. Green Bay Packers -- Darquezze Dennard, CB MSU
22. Philadelphia Eagles -- Marqise Lee, WR USC
23. Kansas City Chiefs -- Brandin Cooks, WR ORST
24. Cincinnati Bengals -- Xavier Sua'Filo, G UCLA
25. San Diego Chargers -- Kyle Fuller, CB VT
26. Cleveland Browns -- CJ Mosley, LB Ala
27. New Orleans Saints -- Kelvin Benjamin, WR FSU
28. Carolina Panthers -- Odell Beckham JR, WR LSU
29. New England Patriots -- Kony Ealy, DE Mizzou
30. *sigh* San Francisco 49ers -- Jordan Mathews, WR Vandy
31. Denver Broncos -- Bradley Roby, CB OSU
32. Seattle Seahawks -- Jace Amaro, TE TT

Notable omissions imo include
1: Ra'Shede Hageman, DE/DT
2: Steven Tuitt, DE/DT
3: Jason Verrett, CB
4: Morgan Moses, OT
5: Dee Ford, DE/OLB Aub


I know there are some that will take umbridge with the way things broke down imo, and if there are any glaring omissions please lemme know..

Just wanna get a feel for where prospects will now be projected to go..

 

[badazzk9]

Theoretical Mock draft for NFL round one... just trying to get a break down of where it could break down when it comes to our pick. I will try to be non homerist and no trades will take place

1. Houston Texans -- Jadaveon Clowney, DE SCar
2. St. Lousi Rams -- Greg Robinson, OT, Aub
3. Jacksonville Jaguars -- Teddy Bridgewater, QB Louisville
4. Cleveland Browns -- Blake Bortles, QB UCF
5. Oakland Raiders -- Sammy Watkins, WR, Clem
6. Atlanta Falcons -- Khalil Mack, DE/OLB Buffaro
7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Anthony Barr, LB, UCLA
8. Minnesota Vikings -- Johnny Manziel, QB Tx A&M
9. Buffalo Bills -- Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, S, Ala
10. Detroit Lions -- Justin Gilbert, CB, OK ST
11. Tennessee Titans -- Timmy Jernigan, DT FSU
12. New York Giants -- Jake Matthews, OT Tx A&M
13. St. Louis Rams -- Mike Evans, WR Tx A&M
14. Chicago Bears -- Aaron Donald, DT Pur
15. Pittsburgh Steelers -- Taylor Lewan, OT Mich
16. Dallas Cowboys -- Calvin Pryor, S Lou
17. Baltimore Ravens -- Zach Martin, OT ND
18. New York Jets -- Eric Ebron, TE UNC
19. Miami Dolphins -- Zack Martin, OT Stan
20. Arizona Cardinals -- Louis Nix, DT ND
21. Green Bay Packers -- Darquezze Dennard, CB MSU
22. Philadelphia Eagles -- Marqise Lee, WR USC
23. Kansas City Chiefs -- Brandin Cooks, WR ORST
24. Cincinnati Bengals -- Xavier Sua'Filo, G UCLA
25. San Diego Chargers -- Kyle Fuller, CB VT
26. Cleveland Browns -- CJ Mosley, LB Ala
27. New Orleans Saints -- Kelvin Benjamin, WR FSU
28. Carolina Panthers -- Odell Beckham JR, WR LSU
29. New England Patriots -- Kony Ealy, DE Mizzou
30. *sigh* San Francisco 49ers -- Jordan Mathews, WR Vandy
31. Denver Broncos -- Bradley Roby, CB OSU
32. Seattle Seahawks -- Jace Amaro, TE TT

Notable omissions imo include
1: Ra'Shede Hageman, DE/DT
2: Steven Tuitt, DE/DT
3: Jason Verrett, CB
4: Morgan Moses, OT
5: Dee Ford, DE/OLB Aub


I know there are some that will take umbridge with the way things broke down imo, and if there are any glaring omissions please lemme know..

Just wanna get a feel for where prospects will now be projected to go..

I have to question that there is going to be 7 WRs in the 1st round.

 

[4lifer9er]

it's a definite possibility at least in my opinion. I think with how well they performed at this combine a lot of teams will feel confident with their floor/ceiling combination. Also with the emphasis on the passing game a lot of NFL teams could be in the mode to expand the offensive system.

I do agree it is a lot and I wouldn't necessarily feel strongly about it breaking down like this, but I feel stronger about these possibilities than I do about Cooks/Mathews/ODB/Lee being 2nd round picks.

 

[Crimsoncrew]

At this point, it's hard to see Lee going that high. His numbers weren't bad, per se, but they weren't nearly as good as lots of other guys who also have on-field production.

 

[4lifer9er]

At this point, it's hard to see Lee going that high. His numbers weren't bad, per se, but they weren't nearly as good as lots of other guys who also have on-field production.

I don't disagree, but I think Kelly would be interested in building stock in the position with pending FA's in Maclin/Cooper in the next year or two. Also, it was the year he was up in Oregon that Lee was at this best, may have partial memory...

I feel confident that Cooks/Lee will be gone within the Eagles/Chiefs picks..

 

[Yadahell]

Latest SI Mock:

30. San Francisco 49ers (12-4): Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State.

The 49ers might lose Anquan Boldin to free agency, thus leaving them shy a physical fail-safe receiver on the outside who can go snatch Colin Kaepernick’s passes from DBs. Benjamin was inconsistent for the Seminoles, yet his 6-5, 244-pound frame (matched with a 4.53 40) falls right in line with what the 49ers crave at wide receiver.

2014 NFL Mock Draft 5.0: Greg Robinson goes No. 2 to St. Louis Rams | Audibles - SI.com

 

[NinerSickness]

The bleacher report's post-combine mock:

1. Blake Bortles
2. Sammy Watkins
3. Teddy Bridgewater (at this point Baalke needs to start offering the farm for Clowney)
4. Johnny Manziel
5. Jadeveon Clowney
6. Greg Robinson
7. Jake Matthews
8. Derek Carr (HA! Christian Ponder 2.0)
9. Khalil Mack
10. Mike Evans (as if Stafford isn't spoiled enough)
11. Anthony Barr
12. Kony Ealy
13. Taylor Lewan
14. Justin Gilbert (I'd love to trade up to 14 for this guy; that's too low for him IMO).
15. Kelvin Benjamin
16. Aaron Donald
17. Eric Ebron (good pick; typical Ozzie pick)
18. Odell Beckham Jr
19. Louis Nix
20. Dee Ford (bad pick IMO)
21. HeSean Clinton-Dix
22. Calvin Pryor (Pryor is the better of these 2 IMO)
23. Ra'Shede Hageman
24. Darqueze Dennard
25. Jason Verrett
26. Marqise Lee
27. C.J. Mosley
28. Zack Martin
29. Jace Amaro
30. Brandin Cooks (Wow that would be a steal)
31. Timmy Jernigan
32. Cyrus Kouandjio (after failing physicals???)

ROUND 2... FIGHT!

33. Stephon Tuitt
34. Morgan Moses
35. Bradley Roby
36. Zach Mettenberger
37. Scott Crichton
38. Allen Robinson
39. Carlos Hyde
40. Ryan Shazier (steal at this point)
41. Xavier Su'a-Filo
42. Kyle Fuller
43. David Yankey (finally people are STARTING to come to their senses)
44. Deone Bucannon (2 of my least favourite players in the draft back to back)
45. Marcus Roberson (reach at this point)
46. Austin Seferian-Jenkins (great pick)
47. Trent Murphy (WOW! STOLE HIM!)
48. Jarvis Landry (after a 4.77??? He'd better destroy that at pro' day)
49. Kyle Van Noy
509. Jack Mewhort
51. Will Sutton
52. Jimmy Garoppolo
53. Dominique Easley
54. Bashaud Breeland
55. DeMarcus Lawrence
56. Pierre Desir - WTC???
57. Marcus Martin
58. Davante Adams
59. Martavis Bryant
60. Jordan Matthews (He's still around??? )
61 Ahmad Dixon
62. DaQuan Jones
63. Chris Borland
64. Troy Niklas

ROUND 3

65. Tre Mason
66. Shayne Skov
67. Bishop Sankey
68. Lache Seastrunk
69. Chris Smith
70. Stanley Jean-Baptiste
71. Charles Sims
72. Jackson Jeffcoat
73. Ed Reynolds
74. Antonio Richardson
75. Lamarcus Joyner
76. Terrence Brooks (2 FSU safeties in a row)
77. Ego Ferguson
78. Jimmie Ward
79. Vic Hampton
80. Billy Turner
81. Loucheiz Purifoy
82. Marcus Smith
83. Cyril Richardson
84. Kelcy Quarles
85. C.J. Fiedorowicz
86. Josh Huff
87. Cody Latimer
88. Aaron Murray
89. Brandon Thomas
90. Jeremiah Attaochu
91. Adrian Hubbard
92. Terrance Mitchell
93. Joel Bitonio
94. Josh Mauro
95. Paul Richardson
96. Jaylen Watkins

ROUND 4

97. Yawin Smallwood
98. Keith McGill
99. Arthur Lynch
100. A.J. McCarron
101. Christian Kirksey
2. Dion Bailey
3. Gabe Jackson
4. Jeremy Hill
5. Logan Thomas
6. Ka'Deem Carey
7. Weston Richburg
8. Andre Williams
9. Devonta Freeman
10. DE Kareem Martin (steal)
11. Caraun Reid
12. Robert Herron
13. Kenny Ladler
14. Anthony Johnson
15. Anthony Steen
16. Walt Aikens
17. Lamin Barrow
18. Craig Loston
19. Ja'Wuan James
20. Ross Cockrell

.......121. Donte Moncrief

22. James Hurst
23. Will Clarke
24. Marqueston Huff
25. Travis Samsonite
26. Brandon Coleman
27. E.J. Gaines (steal)
28. Bruce Ellington

ROUND 5

129. Dakota Dozier
130. Justin Ellis
31. Carl Bradford
32. Richard Rodgers
33. Trevor Reilly
34. Michael Sam
35. Chris Davis
36. Jordan Tripp
37. Jordan Zumwalt
38. Ryan Grant
39. Jared Abbrederis
40. Daniel McCullers
41. Tajh Boyd
42. De'Anthony Thomas
43. Terrance West
44. Christian Jones
45. Nevin Lawson
46. David Fales
47. George Uko
48. Crockett Gillmore
49. Rashaad Reynolds
50. DeAndre Coleman
51. Jemea Thomas
52. Telvin Smith
53. Marion Grice
54. Chris Whaaaaaaatt?
55. Brent Urban
56. Jeff Janis
57. Michael Schofield
58. Marcel Jensen
59. Aaron Lynch
60. Antone Exum

ROUND 6

161. Seantrel Henderson
62. T.J. Jones
63. James Gayle
64. Justin Britt
65. Jay Bromley
66. Bryan Stork
67. Tyler Larsen
68. Willie Snead
69. Cody Hoffman (Cid's cousin)
70. Cameron Fleming
71. Michael Campanaro
72. Jon Halapio
73. Storm Johnson
74. Ronald Powell
75. Jeff Mathews
76. Brandon Linder
77. Eathyn Manumaleuna
78. Vinnie Sunseri
79. Brett Smith
80. Jalen Saunders
81. Prince Shembo
82. Aaron Colvin
83. Wesley Johnson
84. Tom Savage
85. Ed Stinson
86. Stephen Morris
87. Deion Belue (this is more like it)
88. Cassius Marsh
89. DeDe Lattimore
90. Kevin Norwood
91. Russell Bodine
92. Connor Shaw (I'd want him here)

ROUND 7

193. Bennett Jackson
94. Isaiah Lewis
95. L'Damian Washington
96. Josh Stewart
97. Ryan Carrethers
98. Joe Don Duncan
99. Tyler Starr
200. Kadeem Edwards
201. Taylor Hart
2. Hakeem Smith
3. Kasim Edebal
4. Sean Parker
5. Morgan Breslin
6. Shaquelle Evans
7. Matt Patchan
8. Henry Josey
9. Ben Gardner
210. Anthony Fera (a kicker getting some love)
11. Matt Hazel
12. Tevin Reese
13. Zack Kerr
14. Devon Kennard
15. Calvin Barnett
16. Jay Prosch
17. Ricardo Allen
18. Shamar Stephen
19. Phillip Gaines
20. Alden Darby
21. A.C. Leonard
22. Chris Boswell
23. Bene Benwikere
224. Gator Hoskins
Mr. Irrelevant - NolanNonsense

Comp' picks not included.

 

[badazzk9]

Any interest? Cut Rodgers trade for Revis?

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