2013 NCAA FB Season / 2014 NFL draft

[I_am_1z]

Didn't TY leave the game early in the 2nd half?

It was the early 4th quarter

 

[CalamityX11]

It was the early 4th quarter

ah ok... damn that was one long ass 4th lol.....

 

[sjballer03]

@JoshNorris

WR drop rates:
Landry 2.5% Evans 4.3% Watkins 4.5% Cooks 4.7% A-Rob 5.4% ODB 6.45% J-Matt 7.7% Kelvin 9.7% Lee 12.3%

Lee and Kelvin have pretty high drop rates. Kap's arm is not going to help them at all.

 

[JPurthe1]

@JoshNorris

WR drop rates:
Landry 2.5% Evans 4.3% Watkins 4.5% Cooks 4.7% A-Rob 5.4% ODB 6.45% J-Matt 7.7% Kelvin 9.7% Lee 12.3%

I want Landry on my team. Mr. Velcro, acrobat, ballerina, well not the latter.

Though I still would rather wait for Moncrief or trade up for Watkins

 

[Ray_Dogg]

2nd group WR Metrics:
Peshek: WR Metrics 2.0 - Out Of The Box - Rotoworld.com

First Group:
Peshek: Top 4 WR Metrics - Out Of The Box - Rotoworld.com

 

[Yadahell]

@JoshNorris

WR drop rates:
Landry 2.5% Evans 4.3% Watkins 4.5% Cooks 4.7% A-Rob 5.4% ODB 6.45% J-Matt 7.7% Kelvin 9.7% Lee 12.3%

Not surprising that Landry leads in that category- he was Mr. Automatic when it came to converting on 3rd downs. He's also a willing blocker (although his technique needs refinement). I think he would fit in well as an understudy to Boldin (assuming he get re-singed to a reasonable 1-2 year deal). Jarvis doesn't have great burst, but he's good at selling routes and using his body to adjust to balls coming his way just like Anquan. Of course Boldin is beefier than Jarvis, but he can still put a little weight on his frame.

 

[sjballer03]

2nd group WR Metrics:
Peshek: WR Metrics 2.0 - Out Of The Box - Rotoworld.com

First Group:
Peshek: Top 4 WR Metrics - Out Of The Box - Rotoworld.com

Great info. Based on Kap's abilities/tendencies, I'd lean with Kelvin as our pick. Landry looks good as well, but we probably don't need another possession WR, unless it ends up being difficult to resign Boldin this offseason. Or if the FO is concerned about extending Crabtree in the future.

 

[CalamityX11]

Like what I see from ARob n Beckham...

that graphic really killed Cooks IMO lol...

 

[4lifer9er]

to me it just keeps affirming the need for Watkins

 

[I_am_1z]

to me it just keeps affirming the need for Watkins

How? 70.30% of the completed passes for Watkins are behind the LOS to 5 yards. That's a pretty pathetic stat if you're talking about Kaepernick needs a WR that can work downfield.

 

[CalamityX11]

Was there a metric like this for desean n tavon when they were coming out?

Be interested to see their #s predraft

 

[I_am_1z]

Was there a metric like this for desean n tavon when they were coming out?

Be interested to see their #s predraft

Tavon Austin:
Screens: 33.93%
1-5 yards: 23.21%
6-10 yards: 21.43%
11-20 yards: 14.29%
21+ yards: 7.14%

Drops rate: 4.2%

 

[sjballer03]

How? 70.30% of the completed passes for Watkins are behind the LOS to 5 yards. That's a pretty pathetic stat if you're talking about Kaepernick needs a WR that can work downfield.

This is why I'd rather not pay the price it'll take to trade up for Watkins. Kelvin and Beckham are the only ones who catch over half of their passes 11 yards or greater from the LOS. Those two seem to be the best deep threats out of the WRs analyzed.

 

[EKmane]

This is why I'd rather not pay the price it'll take to trade up for Watkins. Kelvin and Beckham are the only ones who catch over half of their passes 11 yards or greater from the LOS. Those two seem to be the best deep threats out of the WRs analyzed.

Plus Beckham brings pr/kr dynanics with him.

 

[NinerSickness]

This is why I'd rather not pay the price it'll take to trade up for Watkins.

I'd have to agree. I think Marqise Lee can do just about everything Watkins can do, and he can be had much lower. If Watkins were still there around 10 & the Niners traded up to get him, I'd be ok with that; but anything higher wouldn't maximize the efficiency of the pick(s) IMO.

Lee & Watkins are the only burners in this class IMO. I know you can find good WRs who aren't burners, but I think the Niners need a Mike Wallace or a Desean Jackson to compliment Vernon Davis & the slower, possession WRs the Niners already have.

I'd love to get a Calvin Johnson or an AJ Green who has everything, but I'm not convinced this draft has one of those guys (with the possible exception of Donte Moncrief, who I think has more potential than anyone else in the draft).

 

[clyde_carbon]

I'd have to agree. I think Marqise Lee can do just about everything Watkins can do, and he can be had much lower. If Watkins were still there around 10 & the Niners traded up to get him, I'd be ok with that; but anything higher wouldn't maximize the efficiency of the pick(s) IMO.

Lee & Watkins are the only burners in this class IMO. I know you can find good WRs who aren't burners, but I think the Niners need a Mike Wallace or a Desean Jackson to compliment Vernon Davis & the slower, possession WRs the Niners already have.

I'd love to get a Calvin Johnson or an AJ Green who has everything, but I'm not convinced this draft has one of those guys (with the possible exception of Donte Moncrief, who I think has more potential than anyone else in the draft).

Most drafts don't have a Calvin Johnson or an AJ Green type, this one included. And no, Moncrief is not it.

 

[clyde_carbon]

to me it just keeps affirming the need for Watkins

Watkins is way out of our reach, and this is a deep WR class. It would be outright stupid to trade up for him, barring an unforeseeable drop.

 

[tomikcon1971]

An unforeseeable drop.......hmmm.......

I hear Watkins is a pot smoking malcontent diva. Oh, he also has arthritic knees and glaucoma.

Pass it on........

 

[NinerSickness]

Most drafts don't have a Calvin Johnson or an AJ Green type, this one included. And no, Moncrief is not it.

Don't get me wrong: I don't think Moncrief is either. Not even remotely. But you never know; Brandon Marshall shocked the world by becoming one of the best WRs in the NFL, and I think if anyone in this draft is going to do that it's going to be Moncrief.

 

[numone9er]

Watkins is way out of our reach, and this is a deep WR class. It would be outright stupid to trade up for him, barring an unforeseeable drop.

I'm with you on this. I'd rather keep our picks and go after another guy. WR is one of the deepest positions in this draft. We would be wise to take at least 2 WR's in this draft.