2012 College Football / 2013 NFL Draft

[clyde_carbon]

I don't know if this is stepping on your toes, but check up on what was posted today because all these have been posted already today. Just thought maybe that would save you some time?

How did I miss it? I thought I made sure to go back and check. Thanks though.

 

[ChrisPozz]

How did I miss it? I thought I made sure to go back and check. Thanks though.

I already did it today myself in another thread. It happens. I just thought maybe I could save you some time/space.

 

[BINGO]

I think even with our needs, assuming we resign at least some of our FA's, we would jump all the way up to 12 to get Teo if he fell that far. Excess in trading to shield off rivals would likely be an extra 2014 3rd round pick or so in addition to the 2013 picks. We don't have enough extra picks, and have too many holes to trade up further than that for him. And I agree, he won't be there at 12 unless he bombs the combine. As for banks/CBS, Steelers for various reasons good and bad, flee from ballhawk prototypes and go for the more raw hands guys who make up for it in run support. Rhodes can play at the line or back in zone, and if we go CB in the 1st, it will be for him, either reach or value. No other 1st round CBs fit our (outdated) scheme.

How ironic!! On your initial post when you mentioned that Banks didn't fit the type of corners that the Steelers covet (in terms of style/scheme), the first person I thought of that fits the typical Steelers style of preference was Xavier Rhodes. I just didn't make the comment in my response to you. Anyway, he's a lot like McFadden whom you guys had drafed many years ago but with better instincts. I used to think that Rhodes was overrated, he has proven his worth I now believe he is an NFL caliber corner.

 

[BINGO]

NFL Draft Blog
DE Hunt ready to ascend the board
January, 3, 2013 4:26PM ET
By Steve Muench


SMU DE Margus Hunt (Grade: 60)

Film study of the Fresno State offensive line leading into the Mustangs' date with Fresno State in the Sheraton Hawaii Bowl led me to believe Hunt (6-foot-8⅛, 272 pounds) was poised for a big game, and he didn't disappoint.

Hunt had two sacks and harassed Bulldogs QB Derek Carr throughout SMU's 43-10 win, showing good versatility in the process. His initial quickness isn't elite, but on his two sacks, Hunt showed the ability to rip under the offensive tackle, bend back inside and deliver the big hit on the passer.

Once he established the edge, Hunt used an outside-in move to force a fumble in the backfield on a delayed run. There's also a lot to like about his pad level and hand use when he rushes between the tackles. Finally, Hunt showed above-average effort and upper-body strength fighting through multiple blocks to affect Carr.

Hunt, who hails from Estonia and is a former world junior gold medalist in the shot put and discus, could see his midround grade improve after a strong senior season, and that momentum could snowball if he tests as well as expected in pre-draft workouts.

NFL comparison: San Francisco 49ers DE Justin Smith



Georgia QB Aaron Murray* (Grade: 54)

Murray shook off a disappointing performance in the SEC title game to throw for 427 yards and five scores in a 45-31 Capital One Bowl victory against a stingy Nebraska defense.

He showed the ability to hit receivers in stride underneath, put good touch on deeper throws and created with his feet against the Cornhuskers. Still, as impressive as Murray (6-1, 212) was, his bowl showing won't help him as much as other players on this list.

His touch and accuracy are inconsistent, and Murray was bailed out by his receivers while completing just over 50 percent of his passes against Nebraska.

He is also inconsistent as a decision-maker, and the pick he threw on an early screen pass is a prime example. Finally, Murray's height hinders his ability to see the field from within the pocket, and he's not going to get any taller. He remains a midround prospect.

NFL comparison: New Orleans Saints QB Chase Daniel




Florida State RB/FB Lonnie Pryor (No grade)

Pryor benefited from his offensive linemen overwhelming an undersized Northern Illinois defensive front. He is a hybrid back who doesn't have the top-end speed to run away from pursuit at the next level like he did in the 31-10 win over the Huskies in the Discover Orange Bowl.

However, Pryor (6-0, 229) showed his versatility by making the most of his blocks as a runner, getting into position as a lead blocker and catching three passes out of the backfield. Pryor has just 99 career carries, so there isn't a lot of wear on his tires.

The way he maximized those touches shouldn't be overlooked either. He has averaged 4.8 yards per carry, rushed for 16 touchdowns with those 99 carries and found the end zone five times in his 32 career catches.

Pryor becomes an even more intriguing Day 3 sleeper when you consider his intangibles led to him being elected a team captain this season.

NFL comparison: Pittsburgh Steelers RB Jonathan Dwyer



Steve Muench
Scouts Inc.

 

[ChrisPozz]

Georgia LB Jarvis Jones to declare for the 2013 NFL Draft - CBSSports.com

 

[ChrisPozz]

Larry Holder:

I can confirm LSU CB Tharold Simon will enter the NFL Draft.

 

[clyde_carbon]

NC State CB David Amerson makes it official he'll leave for the draft.

 

[ChrisPozz]

Sign me up!!!!! One of the number of guys I've wanted to eventually help replace Frank Gore.

Les East: LSU RB Spencer Ware is leaving early for the NFL, his agent tells The Advocate.

 

[Smalls]

Joe Schad said Wisconsin OL Travis Frederick will enter the draft.

 

[ChrisPozz]

LSU P Brad Wing declared as well.

 

[BINGO]

Joe Schad said Wisconsin OL Travis Frederick will enter the draft.

He can play center or guard. I'd love to get him somehow if he falls...

 

[ChrisPozz]

Tyler Bray has made it official by signing with agent Don Yee.

 

[ChrisPozz]

Ben Volin:

TE Jordan Reed announces he's leaving Florida early for the draft. Great athlete, probably a 2-3rd round prospect

Interesting addition to this draft.

 

[ChrisPozz]

Very good facility.

Shawn Zobel: Heard Tenn WR J. Hunter, Mizz DT S. Richardson, SMU DE Margus Hunt, SE LA CB Robert Alford, Harding OLB Ty Powell working out at IMG in FLA

 

[NinerSickness]

Random draft thought:

I didn't know Margus Hunt was 25 years old & Tank Carradine was 24. I thought maybe Ansah was a lil' older 'cause he went to BYU (he's 23).

Demontre Moore, on the other hand, is only 20 (a young 20).

 

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EXPECTED TO ENTER/ENTERING THE DRAFT:
QB Tyler Bray, Tennessee
QB Jeff Tuel, Washington St.

RB Le'Veon Bell, Michigan St.
RB Giovani Bernard, North Carolina
RB Knile Davis, Arkansas
RB Stefphon Jefferson, Nevada
RB Eddie Lacy, Alabama
RB Marcus Lattimore, South Carolina
RB Trabis Ward, Tennessee St.
RB Spencer Ware, LSU
RB Cierre Wood, Notre Dame

WR Keenan Allen, California
WR Stedman Bailey, WVU
WR DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson
WR Justin Hunter, Tennessee
WR Cordarelle Patterson, Tennessee
WR Da'Rick Rogers, Tennessee Tech
WR Marquess Wilson, Washington St.
WR Robert Woods, USC

TE Jordan Reed, Florida
TE Dion Sims, Michigan St.

OL Alvin Bailey, Arkansas
OL D.J. Fluker, Alabama
OL Travis Frederick, Wisconsin
OL Taylor Lewan, Michigan
OL Justin Pugh, Syracuse

DL Sharrif Floyd, Florida
DL William Gholston, Michigan St.
DL Jonathan Hankins, Ohio St.
DL Brandon Jenkins, Florida St.
DL Joe Kruger, Utah
DL Corey Lemonier, Auburn
DL Damontre Moore, Texas A&M
DL Sheldon Richardson, Missouri
DL Akeem Spence, Illinois
DL Bjoern Werner, Florida St.

LB Jarvis Jones, Georgia
LB Kevin Minter, LSU
LB Alec Ogletree, Georgia

CB David Amerson, North Carolina St.
CB Mike Edwards, Hawaii
CB Tyrann Mathieu, LSU
CB Greg Reid, Florida St
CB Xavier Rhodes, Florida St.
CB Logan Ryan, Rutgers
CB Tharold Simon, LSU

S Matt Elam, Florida
S Eric Reid, LSU

P Brad Wing, LSU

RETURNING TO SCHOOL:
QB Derek Carr, Fresno St.
QB A.J. McCarron, Alabama
QB Logan Thomas, Virginia

RB Silas Redd, USC
RB James Sims, Kansas

WR Michael Harrison, Oklahoma St.
WR Devin Street, Pittsburgh

OL Zach Fulton, Tennessee
OL Ju'Wuan James, Tennessee
OL Antwan Lowery, Rutgers
OL Jake Matthews, Texas A&M

DL Aaron Donald, Pittsburgh
DL DeAndre Coleman, California
DL Dominique Easley, Florida
DL Ra'Shede Hageman, Minnesota
DL Louis Nix, Notre Dame

LB Anthony Barr, UCLA
LB C.J. Mosley, Alabama
LB Kyle Van Noy, BYU

S Lamarcus Joyner, FSU

 

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Who are we waiting for to (officially) declare or stay, still? Off the top of my head:

Zach Ertz
Levine Toilolo
Bradley Roby
Barkevious Mingo
Sam Montgomery
Bennie Logan
Tajh Boyd
DeAndre Hopkins
Aaron Murray
Jawan Jamison
Brandon Coleman
Luke Joeckel
Dee Milliner
Nickell Robey

 

[NinerSickness]

Some prospects who MIGHT be starting to grow on me as 3-4 DE prospects:

Devin Taylor & Sheldon Richardson. Richardson is 21, and Taylor is 23. Yes, I've ignored these prospects' ages all season until today for some reason. I might add Margus Hunt to that list, but he might get taken too high. And I didn't know he was 25.

Another randumb thought ('cause I haven't thrown enough of those out there today) is this: Is Alec Ogletree a better prospect than Manti Teo? I think he might be. Both had amazing DLs in front of 'em, but Teo honestly never impressed me as much as his hype would indicate.

 

[LeaderOCola]

How ironic!! On your initial post when you mentioned that Banks didn't fit the type of corners that the Steelers covet (in terms of style/scheme), the first person I thought of that fits the typical Steelers style of preference was Xavier Rhodes. I just didn't make the comment in my response to you. Anyway, he's a lot like McFadden whom you guys had drafed many years ago but with better instincts. I used to think that Rhodes was overrated, he has proven his worth I now believe he is an NFL caliber corner.

I agree, Rhodes is very much a starting caliber corner. He will end up a lot like Ike Taylor--- and particularly if he ends up here in our scheme. Underrated, struggling a bit against certain guys, but generally playing at a probowl level year after year but never actually picking off more than 1 or 2 a year. If he puts up better combine stats than I expect I'd be ok taking him with our pick if they think he's BPA/need there. If they don't resign Lewis, they almsot have to take him anyways.

 

[EKmane]

NFL Draft Blog
DE Hunt ready to ascend the board
January, 3, 2013 4:26PM ET
By Steve Muench


SMU DE Margus Hunt (Grade: 60) ***

Film study of the Fresno State offensive line leading into the Mustangs' date with Fresno State in the Sheraton Hawaii Bowl led me to believe Hunt (6-foot-8⅛, 272 pounds) was poised for a big game, and he didn't disappoint.

Hunt had two sacks and harassed Bulldogs QB Derek Carr throughout SMU's 43-10 win, showing good versatility in the process. His initial quickness isn't elite, but on his two sacks, Hunt showed the ability to rip under the offensive tackle, bend back inside and deliver the big hit on the passer.

Once he established the edge, Hunt used an outside-in move to force a fumble in the backfield on a delayed run. There's also a lot to like about his pad level and hand use when he rushes between the tackles. Finally, Hunt showed above-average effort and upper-body strength fighting through multiple blocks to affect Carr.

Hunt, who hails from Estonia and is a former world junior gold medalist in the shot put and discus, could see his midround grade improve after a strong senior season, and that momentum could snowball if he tests as well as expected in pre-draft workouts.

NFL comparison: San Francisco 49ers DE Justin Smith



Georgia QB Aaron Murray* (Grade: 54)

Murray shook off a disappointing performance in the SEC title game to throw for 427 yards and five scores in a 45-31 Capital One Bowl victory against a stingy Nebraska defense.

He showed the ability to hit receivers in stride underneath, put good touch on deeper throws and created with his feet against the Cornhuskers. Still, as impressive as Murray (6-1, 212) was, his bowl showing won't help him as much as other players on this list.

His touch and accuracy are inconsistent, and Murray was bailed out by his receivers while completing just over 50 percent of his passes against Nebraska.

He is also inconsistent as a decision-maker, and the pick he threw on an early screen pass is a prime example. Finally, Murray's height hinders his ability to see the field from within the pocket, and he's not going to get any taller. He remains a midround prospect.

NFL comparison: New Orleans Saints QB Chase Daniel




Florida State RB/FB Lonnie Pryor (No grade)

Pryor benefited from his offensive linemen overwhelming an undersized Northern Illinois defensive front. He is a hybrid back who doesn't have the top-end speed to run away from pursuit at the next level like he did in the 31-10 win over the Huskies in the Discover Orange Bowl.

However, Pryor (6-0, 229) showed his versatility by making the most of his blocks as a runner, getting into position as a lead blocker and catching three passes out of the backfield. Pryor has just 99 career carries, so there isn't a lot of wear on his tires.

The way he maximized those touches shouldn't be overlooked either. He has averaged 4.8 yards per carry, rushed for 16 touchdowns with those 99 carries and found the end zone five times in his 32 career catches.

Pryor becomes an even more intriguing Day 3 sleeper when you consider his intangibles led to him being elected a team captain this season.

NFL comparison: Pittsburgh Steelers RB Jonathan Dwyer



Steve Muench
Scouts Inc.

Margus Hunt vs Fresno State 2012 "Hawaii Bowl" - YouTube

I'd love to get him groomed behind Justin Smith, all while dominating the special teams.