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Cowherd: just admit you're critical of Lebron because you're worried he's better than Jordan

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Ok then we go back to same thing everyone says. Lebron needs 6 rings. Losses don't matter whether they are in the 1st round, conference finals or Finals. Rings is one of the main factors out of many factors IMO

well, considering his current age i HIGHLY doubt he'll get to six rings anyhow. still, when the dust settles and he hangs 'em up why wouldn't the losses count against him...?
 

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Phil Jackson ranks a guy who played for him above LeBron? C'mon. Phil Jackson is not a neutral party here. Neither is Jordan.
I think both are more qualified then anyone in here. Who is the average person going to believe = and both are well qualified to give their opinions objectively
 

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But I am more than willing to objectively read what the criteria is the LeBron fans uses to determine that LeBron is better then Jordan. Passing, free throws, jump shots, ability to get to the basket, points per game, rebounds, assists - You got to have something to hang your hat on.
 

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This is just another version of the "Robert Horry argument" and it's just as stupid. Kyrie wasn't/isn't the alpha on his team...Lebron was/is. Curry and Westbrook were the alpha's on their teams.

So, the only thing you shit on was yourself. Enjoy.

No they weren't

Curry wasn't the finals mvp

Durant was the alpha when westbrick lost in the finals. enjoy
 
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well, considering his current age i HIGHLY doubt he'll get to six rings anyhow. still, when the dust settles and he hangs 'em up why wouldn't the losses count against him...?

Well one loss he dragged a d-leauge team to the finals..jordan just lost before the finals, should we count all his losses before the finals?

His other loss Kyrie and Love went down...So he really only has 2 losses that i count against him

Finals wins is a team stat anyways. You could have a player that is better with 0 rings vs a player who has 8 rings.
 

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I think they would say they'd have rather won the CCGs and lost each SB. I don't understand why this is even a debate. So back to the NBA, putting aside MJ and LeBron, it's simply a fact that getting to the Finals (and losing) is better than not getting to the Finals. How anyone can think otherwise is mind-boggling.

Their hate for lebron doesn't let them think clear.

Lebron making the finals half his career is somehow a knock, but jordan losing before the finals multiple times is a benefit...I guess that makes sense somehow lol
 

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I think they would say they'd have rather won the CCGs and lost each SB. I don't understand why this is even a debate. So back to the NBA, putting aside MJ and LeBron, it's simply a fact that getting to the Finals (and losing) is better than not getting to the Finals. How anyone can think otherwise is mind-boggling.
That is an assumption.
 

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Ask last year's Warriors how many shits they give about the number of wins without the ring.

Or the Patriots from several years back.

The further you go the better you are...Regardless if you win the ring

Lebron dragged a d-league team in 07 to the finals...This shows how good an individual player is vs how good a team is.
 

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The further you go the better you are...Regardless if you win the ring

Lebron dragged a d-league team in 07 to the finals...This shows how good an individual player is vs how good a team is.
Not true. You can be the second best team in the league and lose in the CCG if you lose to the eventual champion.
 

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That 3 isn't even close to what Lebron has right now. It's crazy to think they will call the Cavs a super team (which I don't think they are) when they have two guys who play average defense at best. Now they are better offensively than the guys MJ had but defense wins championships and you can't get two better defensive beasts than Rodman and Pip.

Jordans team won 55 games without him lol

There is a million factors anyways in comparing players...What was the competition of the players in the era? What teams were they beating? How long did their career last? How good was your teams supporting cast without you?

At the end of the day many people think lebron will eventually pass jordan. That is what the video above is talking about.
 

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Jordans team won 55 games without him lol

There is a million factors anyways in comparing players...What was the competition of the players in the era? What teams were they beating? How long did their career last? How good was your teams supporting cast without you?

At the end of the day many people think lebron will eventually pass jordan. That is what the video above is talking about.



lmfao, you and the rest of Cleveland isn't many people's opinion that is worth a damn.

And Collin Cowherd is the Trump to Skip Bayless's Clinton, they're the two biggest clowns in journalism and the fact that you hold his word to any type of standard shows what type of simple minded moron you are (we all already knew though).
 

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But I am more than willing to objectively read what the criteria is the LeBron fans uses to determine that LeBron is better then Jordan. Passing, free throws, jump shots, ability to get to the basket, points per game, rebounds, assists - You got to have something to hang your hat on.
Passing/Assists and probably rebounds, that's about it.


They really aren't even the same type of player, LeBron is more like a Magic 2.0, which is why I think he's going to eventually, if he hasn't already, pass Magic.
 

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Really? Better than losing in the CCG.

So your question is, is it better to lose in the championship game (the Super Bowl) than in the conference championship game?

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To be fair, both Pippen and Phil saved MJ from being Gervin 2.0. And there's no shame in that.

Beating a 73 win team and leading the team in every statistic is nothing and beating a dynasty spurs team is nothing and facing them again with an added durant team of 4 superstars. Beating a John Starks-led team to make the Finals is legendary and facing the great sonics , portland trailblazers or karl malones Utah jazz is the stuff of legends!
 
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