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Schefter: Source says Bradys legal team is so good "= Won't miss a game."

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Transparency is a two way street, don't you agree?


Sometimes yes.

Now why did the league release an incomplete report? Why not release all the transcripts of the interviews they did? What is the league hiding?
 

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I bet you would if you were accused of something serious and you had texts that proved you were innocent. Why wouldn't you hand your phone over in that instance?

Was tried. Didn't work. Wells had texts making it clear that Brady was complaining about the balls being OUTSIDE the approved range. He included them selectively, and spun them as supposed evidence of the exact opposite.
 

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You're right, the investigation is over, so let's see all the information. What is the league hiding?

Why do you think the league is hiding anything? They published a massive report and laid down a hefty penalty to the Pats. Just because every idiot journalist wants to put "gate" behind every scandal doesn't mean there's some greater, all encompassing conspiracy going on. You think this is somehow tied to the concussion scandal as well? Or, in idiot sports journalist terms, "concussiongate"?
 

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Except they didn't expect there to be a smoking gun on them, that's why they were allowed. I kind of baffled by the fact that the Pats need to approve anything. Fuck um. Don't turn over what is asked...the hammer is coming down.

Smoking gun?? What did you read in that report? The best they came up with was that Brady maybe had knowledge of what was going on. Probably. There was no text where Brady told anyone to deflate anything. There is no text where he said he wanted it at an illegal level. What was the "smoking gun" that you saw?
 

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Actually it may do just that.

But if the league is so confident in it's position, why not just release all the documentation related to the investitgation for everyone to look over? What are they hiding?
So you want at least a 2000 page report instead of the summary? :L Jesus people. Damn.

Every word of every interview would end up looking like one of those massive piles of shit from capital hill.

Reports aren't meant to be all inclusive. At 243 pages it wasn't exactly a brief either.
 

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tommy cold hand the cba over so i can be picked apart .. but it may be in he contract that he signed also


Maybe, but I suspect it's more to do with the CBA. Regardless of what you think about deflated footballs, I don't think the league is on very good ground, and will lose once it hits court, something they seem to be getting good at. Kind of the Cleveland Browns of Civil Courts.
 

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Actually it may do just that.

But if the league is so confident in it's position, why not just release all the documentation related to the investitgation for everyone to look over? What are they hiding?

They don't believe in doing that. Recall that none of them turned over personal devices or anything on them in the Ray Rice investigation. Now they're infuriated that Brady followed the same policy.
 

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why do you and me and everyone else that isnt involved in this need to see everything .. its really none of our concern to be honest


So we have an understanding of which side is actually telling the truth.
 

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Why do you think the league is hiding anything? They published a massive report and laid down a hefty penalty to the Pats. Just because every idiot journalist wants to put "gate" behind every scandal doesn't mean there's some greater, all encompassing conspiracy going on. You think this is somehow tied to the concussion scandal as well? Or, in idiot sports journalist terms, "concussiongate"?

They published an incomplete report, by their own admission. It would have been real simple to make the transcripts/texts/emails/notes available as an attachment to the report. They selectively released parts of the investigation. So as someone that investigates as part of his job my first thought is what are the hiding? Why not write the report then make the information it's based on part of it for review?
 

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Sometimes yes.

Now why did the league release an incomplete report? Why not release all the transcripts of the interviews they did? What is the league hiding?
You're hopeless.

I hope this goes to court and everyone - Wells, Goodell, the ball boys, Belichick, Kraft and Brady are deposed. I really don't care how it turns out. It would be better for me as a Browns fan if Brady isn't suspended against the Squeelers week 1.

Frankly, at this point, I am just here for the drama. The more information the better.
 

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Smoking gun?? What did you read in that report? The best they came up with was that Brady maybe had knowledge of what was going on. Probably. There was no text where Brady told anyone to deflate anything. There is no text where he said he wanted it at an illegal level. What was the "smoking gun" that you saw?
I was quoting the texts in another thread yesterday. Good enough for me, because anyone just using common sense could see TB was asking...no demanding the balls to be under inflated.
 

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why do you and me and everyone else that isnt involved in this need to see everything .. its really none of our concern to be honest

Oh my.
 

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So you want at least a 2000 page report instead of the summary? :L Jesus people. Damn.

Every word of every interview would end up looking like one of those massive piles of shit from capital hill.

Reports aren't meant to be all inclusive. At 243 pages it wasn't exactly a brief either.

No you write the report and release it. Then you attach the evidence to it for review for those that want to see if the report is accurate. We live in an electronic age, no trees would need to be killed to accomplish this.

What is the league hiding? Why are they afraid of people reviewing the evidence?
 

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You're hopeless.

I hope this goes to court and everyone - Wells, Goodell, the ball boys, Belichick, Kraft and Brady are deposed. I really don't care how it turns out. It would be better for me as a Browns fan if Brady isn't suspended against the Squeelers week 1.

Frankly, at this point, I am just here for the drama. The more information the better.

You're the Browns fan? I was expecting a man.
 

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You're hopeless.

I hope this goes to court and everyone - Wells, Goodell, the ball boys, Belichick, Kraft and Brady are deposed. I really don't care how it turns out. It would be better for me as a Browns fan if Brady isn't suspended against the Squeelers week 1.

Frankly, at this point, I am just here for the drama. The more information the better.
the browns aint going any where any way so it dosent matter if we lose the pats game the browns still lose anyway
 

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You're the Browns fan? I was expecting a man.
When one runs out of arguments, the name calling begins. Thanks for conceding.
You think it's easy being a Browns fan?
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