Ohio States schedule is weaker than Bamas??

[haydav49]

So teams aren't allowed to improve? I guess I'll just think of Ohio St as a mediocre team in 2012 since they were 6-6 in 2011.

I really don't care what you think.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

 

[Sox33OSU]

an ohio state fan made a remark about south carolina not winning any big games. and i simply pointed out that south carolina's road win against central florida >>> any team ohio state has done in the last 2 years.

I made that remark in the context of someone saying SCar has a "tendency" to win big games. I merely pointed out that a team with this "tendency" obviously has a good resume full of big wins, to which you responded with the Bama win a few years ago and then this year against Missouri. That was it. It had absolutely nothing to do with Ohio State whatsoever, but you couldn't resist the chance to troll.

 

[Sox33OSU]

So teams aren't allowed to improve? I guess I'll just think of Ohio St as a mediocre team in 2012 since they were 6-6 in 2011.

We weren't great last year, but we were orders of magnitude better than in 2011 for a variety of reasons.

Did UCF have a lameduck head coach last year who had no idea whatsoever what he was doing? No.

Did they have one of the worst statistical QBs in school history starting half of the games because said coach had no idea what he was doing? No.

Did Central Florida go out before this season and bring in one of the most decorated head coaches of the last 30 years to lead them? No.

Those are not even remotely similar comparisons.

 

[sakau2007]

LMAO, gotcha.

Auburn must be better than LSU, right? They're ranked way ahead them. Wait...

Stanford must be lightyears better than Utah, they're not even ranked. Wait...

Oklahoma State must be way better than WVU, WVU is well below .500. Wait...

Oklahoma has the same record as Texas but is ranked well ahead of them, so clearly they're better. Wait...

Need any more examples of why this logic is absolutely retarded?

no, i think i got it. furthermore, just because a team loses to another team doesn't make the winning team better and losing team worse. it just means in that one game, that was the result. if oregon played stanford 100 times, maybe oregon wins 70 of them. if that were the case, i'd call oregon the better team. however, football's sample size will never allow us to get that kind of picture.

and you still haven't shown any teams that are better than central florida that ohio state has beaten. i've heard wisconsin, and i think that's in dispute at best. most people seem to think central florida is better than wisconsin. the computers do too.

 

[ericd7633]

I really don't care what you think.

According to your dumbass logic I'm sure you agree then.

 

[haydav49]

an ohio state fan made a remark about south carolina not winning any big games. and i simply pointed out that south carolina's road win against central florida >>> any team ohio state has done in the last 2 years.

You have the right to believe any bull shit you want. Doesn't change the fact that it's bull shit.

 

[ericd7633]

We weren't great last year, but we were orders of magnitude better than in 2011 for a variety of reasons.

Did UCF have a lameduck head coach last year who had no idea whatsoever what he was doing? No.

Did they have one of the worst statistical QBs in school history starting half of the games because said coach had no idea what he was doing? No.

Did Central Florida go out before this season and bring in one of the most decorated head coaches of the last 30 years to lead them? No.

Those are not even remotely similar comparisons.

Wait so you're saying OSU is the only team allowed to get better? Meanwhile UCF can't. That makes a hell of a lot of sense.

 

[haydav49]

According to your dumbass logic I'm sure you agree then.

Dumbass? Look in the mirror boy.

 

[Sox33OSU]

no, i think i got it. furthermore, just because a team loses to another team doesn't make the winning team better and losing team worse. it just means in that one game, that was the result. if oregon played stanford 100 times, maybe oregon wins 70 of them. if that were the case, i'd call oregon the better team. however, football's sample size will never allow us to get that kind of picture.

and you still haven't shown any teams that are better than central florida that ohio state has beaten. i've heard wisconsin, and i think that's in dispute at best. most people seem to think central florida is better than wisconsin. the computers do too.

Ahh, the computers. The unquestionable end all of determining college football value.

UCF is a good team, I'll give them that. They're improved from last year. They're also ranked ahead of Wisconsin solely due to the referee blunder in the desert. Otherwise Wisconsin is right around the top 10. We also beat Michigan, Wisconsin, and Nebraska last year. Ask Stanford, South Carolina, and UGA (all top 10 teams from last year) how easy it was to beat those teams. I know you're just trolling, so get it out of your system. Fact is, OSU is loaded with talent with one of the best coaches in the nation. We're a proven commodity, and it kills you that we're on the minds of everyone in college football.

 

[Sox33OSU]

Wait so you're saying OSU is the only team allowed to get better? Meanwhile UCF can't. That makes a hell of a lot of sense.

When the fuck exactly did I say that? Tell me right now where I said OSU is the only team allowed to get better and UCF can't.

 

[haydav49]

Ahh, the computers. The unquestionable end all of determining college football value.

UCF is a good team, I'll give them that. They're improved from last year. They're also ranked ahead of Wisconsin solely due to the referee blunder in the desert. Otherwise Wisconsin is right around the top 10. We also beat Michigan, Wisconsin, and Nebraska last year. Ask Stanford, South Carolina, and UGA (all top 10 teams from last year) how easy it was to beat those teams. I know you're just trolling, so get it out of your system. Fact is, OSU is loaded with talent with one of the best coaches in the nation. We're a proven commodity, and it kills you that we're on the minds of everyone in college football.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

Current arguments:

Computers are not a good judge of teams.
Human polls are not a good judge of teams.
UCF is not a good program because they werent as good a program last year.
UCF was the same program last year they are this year.

Not sure anyone can follow all the crap being thrown around in here.

 

[ericd7633]

Dumbass? Look in the mirror boy.

Says the guy who thinks a 4 loss team from a year ago is the same as a top 20 team this year, despite ha ing a harder schedule this year. I think I'm ok.

 

[Shanemansj13]

and why is it stupid? because so many top 10 teams have fallen to ohio state?

ohio state's best win this season, by far, was a home win against wisconsin. how is that better than central florida? wiconsin's claim to fame this season is a close loss to the pac-12's what... 4th? 5th? best team? congrats.

Congrats to UCF for beating up on Conf USA. Bc they are ranked higher than Wisconsin doesn't make them a better team or a better team than top B1G teams last year.

All hail to UCF.

 

[ericd7633]

When the fuck exactly did I say that? Tell me right now where I said OSU is the only team allowed to get better and UCF can't.

Based on your last response that's how I took it. I wasn't comparing the magnitude of improvement. Obviously OSU improved more from 2011-2012 than UCF did from last year to this year.

 

[Sox33OSU]

Current arguments:

Computers are not a good judge of teams.
Human polls are not a good judge of teams.
UCF is not a good program because they werent as good a program last year.
UCF was the same program last year they are this year.

Not sure anyone can follow all the crap being thrown around in here.

I don't think computers are a good judge. Human polls are the best we have, but clearly you can show flaws with having the reasoning that "they're ranked higher so clearly they're better". UCF is a fine program for what they have, but it's not a good argument to say that it's somehow a big win when they have a good record in the shittiest conference in the nation and haven't had any level of proven success in their history.

Hope that helps.

 

[Sox33OSU]

Based on your last response that's how I took it. I wasn't comparing the magnitude of improvement. Obviously OSU improved more from 2011-2012 than UCF did from last year to this year.

So trying to compare them was obviously stupid then. OSU was basically a completely different program in 2011 and 2012. UCF has basically the same everything and has shown moderate improvement.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

I don't think computers are a good judge. Human polls are the best we have, but clearly you can show flaws with having the reasoning that "they're ranked higher so clearly they're better". UCF is a fine program for what they have, but it's not a good argument to say that it's somehow a big win when they have a good record in the shittiest conference in the nation and haven't had any level of proven success in their history.

Hope that helps.

I was just trying to help :ss:

This shit is fun to read today, all this back and forth.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Current arguments:

Computers are not a good judge of teams.
Human polls are not a good judge of teams.
UCF is not a good program because they werent as good a program last year.
UCF was the same program last year they are this year.

Not sure anyone can follow all the crap being thrown around in here.

None of this was said, but if your saying it.

Wasn't said UCF wasn't a good program, Wasn't said computer are a bad judge of teams, never said human polls were a bad judge, and wasn't said UCF was the same program as last year.

These guys in this thread love jumbling everyones words. Can't say anything w/o it being taken out of context.

Have fun in this CBS/ESPN thread.