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didnt we think the same thing when blesoe got hurt.. or are some of you too young to remember that.. it was 13-14 years ago
 

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didnt we think the same thing when blesoe got hurt.. or are some of you too young to remember that.. it was 13-14 years ago


No we didn't. Because we didn't know squat about Tom then. Tom was shit luck and no one thought at the time he had the skills to be successful. At this poing with Mallett indications are he has the tools that was not the case with Tom.
 

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If an extension would work that would be great! If he leaves for another team and who could blame him Brady will be 37 / 38? Lets say we draft a kid now what, we are left training him in hopes that Tom can make it to 40. I can not see the Pats getting a first for Mallett, out of the question, and I can't see the Pats taking a third that's where we got him. So that leaves us looking at a second round pick is it worht losing a guy that appears to have the NFL tools for a second rounder? I suspect this is a question BB and the team struggles with too. How long do we really think we can keep him on the bench? This is a tough call, the QB class is suppose to be solid next year so that will have a lot to do with it.

Frankly, I'd keep him for a few million a year over taking a 2nd round pick for him, but I don't think it's gonna happen. Unless they're willing to franchise tag him (which will put his cap hit over $15 million), I don't see how they retain him, because he WILL get a starting opportunity for some other team immediately. Persuading him to wait til he's nearing 30 before he even gets the chance to start just doesn't seem likely to me.

So, really, I think it's a 2nd round pick and lose your backup a year early next offseason (maybe, if anyone bites) or nothing when you lose him the year after. If Brady doesn't quit a helluva lot earlier than we expect him to, I just don't think Mallett is going to choose to stay in New England.

Interestingly, if we tender him as a RFA at the 1st round level, that actually might be more likely than accepting a trade for a high 2nd round pick. It's easier to sell your fan base on a free agent acquisition (which, parenthetically, happened to cost you a first rounder) than it is to sell your fan base on trading for some team's backup. But we'll see what happens. That might end up being their best option, at the end of the day - play out this year with him, play out next year with him unless you get a GREAT trade offer, tender him and either you have him for another year or you get a 1st round draft pick for him.
 
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Brady will be pushing the envelope over the next four years but father time catches up to them all. Here's what Tom recently said:

"All my thoughts on a daily basis go into how I can sustain the length of my career,” he told the magazine(Men's Health) in the issue that comes out Aug. 6. “What I eat. How I sleep. My levels of stress. Why? Because I love football."
 

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No we didn't. Because we didn't know squat about Tom then. Tom was shit luck and no one thought at the time he had the skills to be successful. At this poing with Mallett indications are he has the tools that was not the case with Tom.

That was the one year Bill kept 4 QB's. And even then Brady got the nod to take over for Bledsoe over 3 year man Bishop and 5 year backup Huard.

Bill knew something
 

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That was the one year Bill kept 4 QB's. And even then Brady got the nod to take over for Bledsoe over 3 year man Bishop and 5 year backup Huard.

Bill knew something


Bill kept 4 in '00, Brady got the nod over Huard in '01.

I knew that...
 

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Average score in the NFL by position(according to wikipedia)
Though used in a variety of settings, the Wonderlic test has become best known for its use in the NFL's Scouting Combine. According to Paul Zimmerman's The New Thinking Man's Guide to Pro Football, the average score of a NFL player according to position is the following:
Offensive tackle – 26
Center – 25
Quarterback – 24 (Most teams want at least 21 for a quarterback.)
Guard – 23
Tight end – 22
Safety – 19
Linebacker – 19
Cornerback – 18
Wide receiver – 17
Fullback – 17
Halfback – 16

I've never heard Mallett speak but lets not confuse being inarticulate with being unintelligent.
 

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Mallett is a very smart QB I don't care if you think he sounds like a Hill Billy he is smart on the field and can make most of the throws required. He is probably better then some or most of the current starting QBs in the league.

Im sorry but what exactly has Mallett done for you to think this?? Hell he hasnt even proven he is better than Tebow when it comes to actual wins/losses.
 

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Im sorry but what exactly has Mallett done for you to think this?? Hell he hasnt even proven he is better than Tebow when it comes to actual wins/losses.

He hasn't needed to. As for stating how good he is, we don't know. But I would rather pay him, say, 5mil a year than dream of having Tebow be an injury away from coming in. Mallett has tools to work with, and there have been rumors of decent offers for him being turned down. There is a reason many think highly of him, plus the fact that he has been able to watch one of the best play in front of him? Tebow has no tools.

He is better than Tebow. How good he actually is I don't know.
 

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He hasn't needed to. As for stating how good he is, we don't know. But I would rather pay him, say, 5mil a year than dream of having Tebow be an injury away from coming in. Mallett has tools to work with, and there have been rumors of decent offers for him being turned down. There is a reason many think highly of him, plus the fact that he has been able to watch one of the best play in front of him? Tebow has no tools.

He is better than Tebow. How good he actually is I don't know.

Probably but all Im saying is Tebow was better in college and has actual results in the NFL when it comes to his team winning. Id take Mallett over Tebow all day too especially in the Pats system but saying Mallett is better than some or most current starters in the NFL is hyperbole at best and just plain homerism at worst. Only 2 QB's on your roster have won a playoff game and neither of them is named Ryan Mallett
 

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Brady will be pushing the envelope over the next four years but father time catches up to them all. Here's what Tom recently said:



"All my thoughts on a daily basis go into how I can sustain the length of my career,” he told the magazine(Men's Health) in the issue that comes out Aug. 6. “What I eat. How I sleep. My levels of stress. Why? Because I love football."



tom is a god.
 

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Probably but all Im saying is Tebow was better in college and has actual results in the NFL when it comes to his team winning. Id take Mallett over Tebow all day too especially in the Pats system but saying Mallett is better than some or most current starters in the NFL is hyperbole at best and just plain homerism at worst. Only 2 QB's on your roster have won a playoff game and neither of them is named Ryan Mallett

And one of them I am desperately waiting for him to be released.
 

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Probably but all Im saying is Tebow was better in college and has actual results in the NFL when it comes to his team winning. Id take Mallett over Tebow all day too especially in the Pats system but saying Mallett is better than some or most current starters in the NFL is hyperbole at best and just plain homerism at worst. Only 2 QB's on your roster have won a playoff game and neither of them is named Ryan Mallett







well if we didnt have brady he would be starting here and we would find out. just because hes a backup doesnt mean hes a scrub, rodgers was the backup to favre for forever and we know how he turned out. mallett had 1st round qb talent but fell in the draft because teams thought he snorted coke. he would have been the top qb in last years draft from a talent view. pats got a steal in the 3rd round thats the bottom line.
 

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I heard stories about several teams contacting the Patriots about Mallett before and during the draft so there were interested teams. His value is certainly better than a 3rd. Gotta wonder what teams were offering for the Patriots not to pull the trigger. Or the Patriots just like him enough to value him as a backup vs having a draft pick to spend on another unknown. Gotta believe there are a few desperate teams that would be willing to give a 2nd rounder at this point.
 

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I heard stories about several teams contacting the Patriots about Mallett before and during the draft so there were interested teams. His value is certainly better than a 3rd. Gotta wonder what teams were offering for the Patriots not to pull the trigger. Or the Patriots just like him enough to value him as a backup vs having a draft pick to spend on another unknown. Gotta believe there are a few desperate teams that would be willing to give a 2nd rounder at this point.

How is his value better then a 3rd rounder? You might, MIGHT get a 2nd rounder, but I bet the best we could get is a high 3rd from a horrible team.
 

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We won't trade him for a third rounder.

I think he has more value than you think he does. The only reason he fell out of the first round was some rumors about him before the draft. He has been a model citizen here and sat behind Tom Brady watching the master at work. There are teams that would love to get their hands on him.
 
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We won't trade him for a third rounder.

I think he has more value than you think he does. The only reason he fell out of the first round was some rumors about him before the draft. He has been a model citizen here and sat behind Tom Brady watching the master at work. There are teams that would love to get their hands on him.

He might get a 2nd round offer but I'm not sure a team would give up a pick that high.
 

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The Browns will be happy to give up a 2nd rounder for Mallet sooner than later.
 

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They count better because it's almost a late first. Seriously, though, they threw away a pick on weeden and could desperately use a QB. They're not the only ones. We don't particularly want a good team to trade for him.

I turn down a second right now though. I would rather have him in place than take a second rounder, even an early one.
 
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