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[thedddd]

Dang? Getting cut in year 2?

Yeah - that would seal the deal for me....I'll go Stephens.

He did play a few years after in Cincy but was just a backup. And they drafted him as a “project” but if that was the case it should never been wasted on a 1st round pick. Nor did he care to get better.

Sadly though his son died in 2020 from COVID, he was playing football in College.

 

[Cincyfan78]

He did play a few years after in Cincy but was just a backup. And they drafted him as a “project” but if that was the case it should never been wasted on a 1st round pick. Nor did he care to get better.

The 1st round is not for projects. Organizations that treat it this way deserve what they get. (Looking at YOU, Bengals).

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Stephens... He would get my vote. 2 years with the Steelers, and only started 11 games. Went on to play for the Bengals, ironically. Everyone knew that Stephens was a bit of a project at the time, but there were lofty expectations given his size & athleticism. And in an era where Pittsburgh wanted to play smashmouth run football. He was terrible. And when he showed up to camp overweight & out of shape it was a nail in his coffin here. It was a huge disappointment.

Wills... I agree that its difficult to assess much from him, but we got a good glimpse in 2023 before his injury. He was a 2-pack of ass that routinely got beat in both rush & pass blocking. I don't think there were any predraft issues that were red flags so I tend to think we may never get to see him develop.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Steelers without a doubt for me is Jamain Stephens. Cut second year after coming to camp out of shape.

I don't remember this (I remember the name, but not being cut in year 2), but you sold me here. I vote Stephens.

 

[thedddd]

I don't remember this (I remember the name, but not being cut in year 2), but you sold me here. I vote Stephens.

Here is part of his story:

Exclusive with Former Steelers Offensive Lineman Jamain Stephens, 1996-1998 – Welcome to Steelers Takeaways!

Well I struggled with the conditioning test as people know, and I was called into Cowher’s room and he notified me of my release. If I recall I told him I hope it’s not the last they hear from me in the NFL and he wished me well. I packed my stuff and took it back to my apartment.

And I understand once being gassed but he was cut after the second year he wasn't prepared for the same drill.

Here are some of the best stories before Steelers training camps grew so boring

From Bill Cowher's spy camera to the days first-rounders went bust, training camp stories before the Zoom invasion.

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Gassed after the gassers

Two memorable days at Saint Vincent in the 1990s occurred before practices ever started and involved a first-round draft choice. Tackle Jamain Stephens, the team’s 1996 first-round pick, underperformed in his first three seasons with the team, which envisioned him as its starting right tackle after Leon Searcy departed in free agency for Jacksonville.

During the run test that always has been held on the first day and is considered part of the team’s training camp physical, Stephens collapsed in just his second training camp, 1997. Comically, Greg Lloyd grabbed a white towel and stood over him waiving it as if he were a trainer trying to revive his boxer who was just knocked out.

But the coup de gras came two years later. Same drill, nearly identical result. Stephens was so out of shape that he nearly collapsed on the 11th of 14 scheduled 40-yard runs and sat down, the only player unable to complete them. His teammates surrounded him and encouraged him to finish, but he basically walked the rest of the way.

“That,” Bill Cowher said afterward, “was very disappointing.”

That night, the Steelers cut Stephens, who would go on to sign with the Bengals, where he started four games over the next three seasons.

 

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[Superbelt]

Stephens. Cowher comes in his first year and cuts the dude to make a point about toughness.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I don't see how Oher is an option he started 110 games

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Wills def worse than that.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Wills best PFF year was a 66 lol.

 

[thedddd]

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[Cincyfan78]

I'm going to kick off the DL discussions...I think we landed on Stephens for OL...


I'll start with Courtney Brown....

 

[Superbelt]

I'm going to kick off the DL discussions...I think we landed on Stephens for OL...


I'll start with Courtney Brown....

Ziggy Hood would be PGH's entry.

 

[Cincyfan78]

FWIW - as much attention as the Bengals/Hendrickson saga has gotten...seems people are ignoring the Watt/Pitt saga...which is basically the same thing...

 

[Superbelt]

Actually Darryl Sims would be a bigger bust 1st round bust for Pittsburgh.

And then there is Gabe Rivera, who paralyzed himself drunk driving in a car accident when they selected him over Marino. So does that count as a bust?


Seems like we are DL bust rich here.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Time to select our DL for the AFCN ALL-BUST team!

 

[dtgold88]

Names to consider:

Browns
Pete Adams (1st Rd - 22nd overall - 1973)
Cameron Erving (1st Rd - 19th overall - 2015)
Austin Corbett (2nd Rd - 33rd overall - 2018)
Jedrick Wills Jr (1st Rd - 10th overall - 2020)

Bengals
Dave Rimington (1st Rd - 25th overall - 1983)
Freddie Childress (2nd Rd - 55th overall - 1989)
Andre Smith (1st Rd - 6th overall - 2009)
Jake Fisher (2nd Rd - 53rd overall - 2015)
Cedric Ogbuehi (1st Rd - 21st overall - 2015)
Billy Price (1st Rd - 21st overall -2018)

Ravens
Adam Terry (2nd Rd - 64th overall - 2005)
O'neal Cousins (3rd Rd - 99th overall - 2008)
Michael Oher (1st Rd - 23rd overall - 2009)
Jah Reid (3rd Rd - 85th overall - 2011)
Kelechi Osemele (2nd Rd - 60th overall - 2012)

Steelers
Mark Behning (2nd Rd - 47th overall - 1985)
John Rienstra (1st Rd - 9th overall - 1986)
Tom Ricketts (1st Rd - 24th overall - 1989)
Jamain Stephens (1st Rd - 29th overall - 1996)
Kraig Urbik (3rd Rd - 79th overall - 2009)
Mike Adams (2nd Rd - 56th overall - 2012)

Cannot say I follow OL enough on other teams to know the bigger busts. Adams before my time. For us think I'd go Erving. Wills went earlier but the guy made all rookie and was at least adequate until he could not stay healthy.....I usually don't count bad injury luck against guys (unless like KJC he was already hurt and they knew).

 

[dtgold88]

My favorite Brown of all-time is now set to be a Houston Texan. A true professional, love that guy. Good luck to Nick

Yep....my favorite all time Cleveland athlete in any sport. Sucks didn't keep him but I get it for our sake and his.

All the best to Nick as long as not facing us.