POLL Would You Rather? Baker vs Burrow

[dtgold88]

Yes I know. My very initial point was that I like Burrow's attributes better than Baker. Someone brought up Baker's accuracy. I provided how Burrow and Baker were similar in college. And then said based on last year, I'd project Burrows to be better in the NFL because Baker was off last year. I'm sure it'll rebound some but he did regress in accuracy last year, despite the offensive scheme. Frankly it was weird to see.

Agree....but again we come back to you dismissing 2018 and only caring about 2019. But if you prefer Burrow I get it.

 

[dtgold88]

meh, Baker had 27 td's and 14 int's in that 'great' rookie season.

Lamar went 36-6 in his first full season. Mahomes went 50-12. those are great first seasons.

Jimmy G went 27-13 this season and people call him average. Baker had an 'average' year for an NFL qb in his rookie year and then an outright bad year this season after people had tape on him.

at this point, me calling him average is more than fair. he might not even be average.

I don't want to break it to you, but Lamar played quite a bit his rookie season. Mahomes didn't play at all. Neither played as well as a rookie as baker. Not really debatable.

want to tell me both were better in their second seasons compared to Baker's second (or his first)? No disagreement.

 

[dtgold88]

Disappointed by being overlooked in that post:

will say I actually think Mangini was a solid coach. His issue was he was an awful GM and did himself no favors as a coach.

 

[ericd7633]

Agree....but again we come back to you dismissing 2018 and only caring about 2019. But if you prefer Burrow I get it.

I'm not dismissing 2018. He wasn't very accurate that season either. 24th in the league in comp %.

 

[dtgold88]

I'm not dismissing 2018. He wasn't very accurate that season either. 24th in the league in comp %.

And a rookie with an OC trying to sabotage the HC half the year. Know many rookie QBs in the history of the sport who were better as rookies?

 

[ericd7633]

And a rookie with an OC trying to sabotage the HC half the year. Know many rookie QBs in the history of the sport who were better as rookies?

I honestly don't know. Daniel Jones had similar numbers last year, and we all know how shitty his HC was. But he wasn't anything spectacular. But my point still stands regarding accuracy.

 

[SteelersPride]

I honestly don't know. Daniel Jones had similar numbers last year, and we all know how shitty his HC was. But he wasn't anything spectacular. But my point still stands regarding accuracy.

so baker was very accurate his college career....
not as accurate as a pro.........

joe burrow passed for 57.8% in 2018
and had a whopping 76.3% in 2019

so burrow has ONE good year in college........

now he is definitely gonna be the more accurate player?

 

[SteelersPride]

They must have done something right to have teams take a shot at them. I didn't see much of Allen or Blake in college, so I'm not sure what their tape looked like. For Trubisky, guy looked "ok" but nothing really impressive in college but what do I know, I'm no expert. For Burrow, I've seen plenty to feel comfortable taking a shot on the guy as #1 pick, I think he'll be pretty good in the NFL. Felt the same for Baker coming out. It's splitting hairs picking among the two

but youve seen him in college, playing college games, its not the same, and youve seen exactly what the media wants you to see.

you've actually proven my point, u didnt see allen or blake bc the werent on tv....trubisky, did u actually watch him? how often

 

[dtgold88]

I honestly don't know. Daniel Jones had similar numbers last year, and we all know how shitty his HC was. But he wasn't anything spectacular. But my point still stands regarding accuracy.

That he was 24th? OK. But not like nearly 64% is bad, especially for a rookie (do you see any rookies ahead of him?).

So in the history of the sport the best you can come up with is "I don't know" as to what rookie was better?

 

[dtgold88]

so baker was very accurate his college career....
not as accurate as a pro.........

joe burrow passed for 57.8% in 2018
and had a whopping 76.3% in 2019

so burrow has ONE good year in college........

now he is definitely gonna be the more accurate player?

of course. based on the 2019 counts and 2018 didn't happen philosophy.

 

[ericd7633]

so baker was very accurate his college career....
not as accurate as a pro.........

joe burrow passed for 57.8% in 2018
and had a whopping 76.3% in 2019

so burrow has ONE good year in college........

now he is definitely gonna be the more accurate player?

As I said before, Burrow had a slightly better comp % in college than Baker did. Also that one "good" year was arguably the best season in CFB history.

I am projecting him to be the better pro player. Their accuracy may be very similar in the NFL who knows.

 

[SteelersPride]

As I said before, Burrow had a slightly better comp % in college than Baker did. Also that one "good" year was arguably the best season in CFB history.

I am projecting him to be the better pro player. Their accuracy may be very similar in the NFL who knows.

burrows completion percentage was buoyed by one year, you know that. it was 0.3 career over bakers......


I mean 2016 78.6 ,......he tossed it 28 times, 11 in 2017.....so we can effectively toss those

57.8 in 2018........and 76.3.....

So "arguably" the best in college football history....thats worth something......

and arguably the best in NFL history, is not?

I fail to keep seeing how bakers 2019 counts, but burrows 2018 doesnt.........

how burrows 2019 counts, bakers 2018 doesnt.......

 

[ericd7633]

That he was 24th? OK. But not like nearly 64% is bad, especially for a rookie (do you see any rookies ahead of him?).

So in the history of the sport the best you can come up with is "I don't know" as to what rookie was better?

I'm not saying 64% is bad, but it was below avg compared to the other QB's. I don't think any were ahead of him.

I don't know. I'm sure there have been. Dak off the top of my head was alot better than him.

 

[ericd7633]

burrows completion percentage was buoyed by one year, you know that. it was 0.3 career over bakers......

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I mean 2016 78.6 ,......he tossed it 28 times, 11 in 2017.....so we can effectively toss those

57.8 in 2018........and 76.3.....

So "arguably" the best in college football history....thats worth something......

and arguably the best in NFL history, is not?

I fail to keep seeing how bakers 2019 counts, but burrows 2018 doesnt.........

how burrows 2019 counts, bakers 2018 doesnt.......

Okay then toss out his OSU years. Guess what his comp % is...the same as Baker's in his college career. I'm not sure why people think I'm throwing years out, I'm clearly not. Everything counts.

 

[SteelersPride]

Okay then toss out his OSU years. Guess what his comp % is...the same as Baker's in his college career. I'm not sure why people think I'm throwing years out, I'm clearly not. Everything counts.

its going in circles.all good , sorry my man.

 

[SteelersPride]

gee sorry @ericd7633 i wont throw a peace offering next time......go ahead and be a dick then.

 

[ericd7633]

gee sorry @ericd7633 i wont throw a peace offering next time......go ahead and be a dick then.

Not tryin to be a sick at all.

 

[SteelersPride]

Not tryin to be a sick at all.

lol i cheers'd ya, and got a facepalm it dont care just saying

Edit, its gone i was laughing

 

[ericd7633]

lol i cheers'd ya, and got a facepalm it dont care just saying

Edit, its gone i was laughing

Okay.

 

[PDay8810]

too fucking funny

gotta hand it to you SteelersPride, can't be said you haven't done all you could to keep this thread going.