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Game Thread: CFP SEMIFINAL: Clemson (13-0) vs Ohio State (13-0) 8pm ET ESPN

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If you are trying to tackle someone, you have to lower your center of gravity lower than his.

Ever play football? If so you should know this.

Now then, to lower one's center of gravity one must lower his body mass. Since Humans bend forward at the waist, this is the only means to do this, along with bending the knees.

So to test this, hold your arms at your side, feet shoulder width apart, now bend forward. Notice your head moves out farther than any other extremity.

End of class.

Any questions?
@WizardHawk is he an OSU fan, too?
 

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All form tackles are eyes down, head before shoulders. I have an entire thread with pictures for you... or do you need a box of crayons and a nanny to draw it out for you?

All tackles lead with head
another OSU fan, @WizardHawk ?

You better explain to them how he launched himself into the QB to make your point. That went over well.
 

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Maybe you think he launched when he didn't?
So you again want to bring up a post you said you didn't bother reading fully as if you understand what was actually said/meant and want to turn that into something else.

The reason I said something to the other bucknut about going technical is I was talking about the point at which you commit to a tackle. You can call it a lunge or whatever. I was not talking about the launching as in leaving the feet in the air.

So no, I made no accusation that he left the air as in a launch under that rule. I'm sure you will again accuse it though as today you are extra extra angry and in the mode of putting words in mouths. So go ahead and carry on.
 

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Stopped at the facepalm, as clear to any rational poster the SportsHoopla facepalm means either "I cannot refute what you said" or "I'm about to go way off the path and deflect uncontrollably"
And we all know that 'stopped at'... is NOTHING but pure bullshit because you had nothing to counter what was said. Congrats on admitting you can't counter something posted based on reason.
 

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You get there are fans of other teams who have said it was not targeting, right? Maybe you better tell them he launched himself.
You get that many of us have said we hate the rule and are only suggesting it counted as that shitty rule is listed and not in favor of that rule, right? Maybe you can stop twisting and deflecting in your tirade and get back to where we appeared to be last night where mostly we all agreed on quite a bit.
 

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Bullshit. More pure nonsense because you can't handle reality.

We are CLEARLY talking about helmet to helmet contact on a defenseless player and/or QB. This isn't about anything else ancillary and no one but you has suggested otherwise.

It doesn't matter if a player intended to lead with a helmet, nor if their head wasn't actually going toward the helmet at the time they committed to going for the tackle.

It is clear and not debatable, but do keep on.
You made another foolish comment. Own it.
 

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So you again want to bring up a post you said you didn't bother reading fully as if you understand what was actually said/meant and want to turn that into something else.

The reason I said something to the other bucknut about going technical is I was talking about the point at which you commit to a tackle. You can call it a lunge or whatever. I was not talking about the launching as in leaving the feet in the air.

So no, I made no accusation that he left the air as in a launch under that rule. I'm sure you will again accuse it though as today you are extra extra angry and in the mode of putting words in mouths. So go ahead and carry on.
you messed up....again. Own it.
 

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You get there are fans of other teams who have said it was not targeting, right? Maybe you better tell them he launched himself.

And there are as many if not more fans of other teams that agree that it was targeting.


Time to let it go. go outside take a breath of fresh air. osu lost. Accept it and move on.
 

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You made another foolish comment. Own it.
Nope, but you will stick to that because you admitted you can't counter the actual points made. You have nothing left but this.
 

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And we all know that 'stopped at'... is NOTHING but pure bullshit because you had nothing to counter what was said. Congrats on admitting you can't counter something posted based on reason.
Nope. In SportsHoopla the facepalm = cannot refute what you said or = I will be deflecting.

No need to read past it.
 

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And there are as many if not more fans of other teams that agree that it was targeting.


Time to let it go. go outside take a breath of fresh air. osu lost. Accept it and move on.
He's completely lost his shit today. lol
 

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Nope. In SportsHoopla the facepalm = cannot refute what you said or = I will be deflecting.

No need to read past it.
:L You are the greatest poster on this site.
 

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You get that many of us have said we hate the rule and are only suggesting it counted as that shitty rule is listed and not in favor of that rule, right? Maybe you can stop twisting and deflecting in your tirade and get back to where we appeared to be last night where mostly we all agreed on quite a bit.
In fact I do get we agree we all hate the rule. But we disagree in that many wish to argue with physics, and/or the fact the QB lowered his helmet as much as Wade hit him with his.
 

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And there are as many if not more fans of other teams that agree that it was targeting.


Time to let it go. go outside take a breath of fresh air. osu lost. Accept it and move on.
Accepted it well before I went to bed last night. But thanks. Easier to do knowing decent chance we'll get back again soon.
 

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Nope, but you will stick to that because you admitted you can't counter the actual points made. You have nothing left but this.
The point made has been countered with physics that cannot be debated and the fact the QB lowered himself and was as responsible.
 

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In fact I do get we agree we all hate the rule. But we disagree in that many wish to argue with physics, and/or the fact the QB lowered his helmet as much as Wade hit him with his.
And I wasn't one of them. You and ATF were going at it with the duck fan last night and I was not on his side of that. Now today you 'launch' into me as if I was part of that. I wasn't.

The rule is bad. The QB was moving his head before impact. The defender had his head down at that point and wouldn't have been able to see that movement. The contact was incidental in that aspect. As in, no one thinks he was trying to be dirty and actually targeting him. The only point I made was even with all of that true, it's going to be called targeting most of the time. Yes, only when it's a QB or defenseless RB/WR.

I also said it was bullshit Lawrence was right back in after only sitting out one play. If it was really targeting and helmet to helmet he should have gone through the protocol and should have been out until he passed it. You can't complete that in one play.
 
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