Too early to talk about draft????

[HaroldSeattle]

I think the first three picks should be OL and DL, whichever is better when we pick.



Also a late round RB.

Isn't that your wish ever year? I get the need is always there, but the talent has to be good enough to justify the pick first and foremost.

 

[JMR]

Isn't that your wish ever year? I get the need is always there, but the talent has to be good enough to justify the pick first and foremost.

It pretty much is for me, at least for the last 10 years or so. In my "old" age, I've realized the way you build a team is with the QB and the lines. I will never be upset with early picks on players who block for the QB or players who rush the QB. On top of that, nearly half the players on the field at any given time are linemen, and they get hurt a lot. You can't have too many good ones.

 

[MrS]

Just for shits and giggles:


2019 Needs

Jan 17, 2019
Dalton risner is the guy i want round one. Can play G or RT.

Isn't that your wish ever year? I get the need is always there, but the talent has to be good enough to justify the pick first and foremost.

yes because you should build your team from the inside out on both sides of the ball. a dominant OL or DL will hide weaknesses. right?

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Either O or D line in the first is a good choice. I wouldn't mind a CB in the first as well.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Just for shits and giggles:


2019 Needs




yes because you should build your team from the inside out on both sides of the ball. a dominant OL or DL will hide weaknesses. right?

Not against it at all. However if the quality linemen are gone IDK if reaching for need is the way to go.

 

[Screamin12th]

yeah no reaching for Oline talent that has NOT worked for us at all. This team needs D help more than offensive help. They had scored the most points up till this weeks games when they are on a bye. lol

this team with just LAST YEARS D would be better than they are now. Shocking to say when they are 8-2

 

[MrS]

Not against it at all. However if the quality linemen are gone IDK if reaching for need is the way to go.

Risner would have been a reach at 29, but the guy is a very solid starter as a rookie. just something to think about.

we dont have tom cable coaching the OL anymore also...

 

[JMR]

How do we know what a reach is? We are basing it on inauthentic information because we don't have the NFL teams' draft boards sitting in front of us. Lots of people thought both Russell Wilson and Bobby Wagner were reaches. Same people thought Aaron Curry was a great move at #4 overall, "safest player in the draft" and all that.

Duane Brown was the 26th overall pick, Justin Britt the 64th. So I just don't buy the idea that at any point in the 1st round there isn't a good enough OL or DL player to draft without "reaching." If the player is good, who cares if they were taken a round "too early"?

Golden Tate has put together a really nice career, but he wasn't what he is now until around season 4. We basically had 1 year of his prime before he left as a free agent. Linemen typically develop a lot faster, and in my opinion that makes them a better value for an early draft pick.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

How do we know what a reach is

My point being you don't just draft a lineman for the sake of drafting a linemen, your looking for good value.

 

[JMR]

My point being you don't just draft a lineman for the sake of drafting a linemen, your looking for good value.

Well, I think this is a bit of a CPT Obvious type statement. We should give JS a bit more credit than to just stubbornly take a player at a certain position no matter what.

But I would still contend that there's a lineman worth drafting at any spot in the late part of the 1st round, which is typically where we draft.

 

[MrS]

How do we know what a reach is?

without hindsight, we base it on the consensus of scouts and experts.

we have been reaching in the early rounds for some time now and it hasnt worked out all that well. plenty of examples where taking the consensus BPA would have been a better choice.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Well, I think this is a bit of a CPT Obvious type statement. We should give JS a bit more credit than to just stubbornly take a player at a certain position no matter what.

But I would still contend that there's a lineman worth drafting at any spot in the late part of the 1st round, which is typically where we draft.

My remark wasn't in reference to JS, but more to those who want a linemen period.
As for there's a lineman worth drafting late in the first. I couldn't say, but it doesn't seem to be a slam dunk to me.

 

[Screamin12th]

My point being you don't just draft a lineman for the sake of drafting a linemen, your looking for good value.

i don't trust this team and scouting group to know what talent is on the oline but they are better. The young guys they have brought in have looked as good and better than some of the starters. Jones who rarely played Guard ( mainly a LT! ) out performed DJ Fluker in my eyes especially in the passing game. Knox might be a keeper and Christmas too.

This team will need a TE, i know it sucks to say that but when a guy has this happen 2 years in a row it might be time to get insurance. a 3rd round TE or a early 4th ( 3rd would be better Way better ) would help this team. Maybe look for a athletic guy bore of a 6 foot 5 245 type with sub 4.6 speed. ( 4.49-4.56 range )those guys grow on trees right? .... no? well shit. lol

I want to add that our OLine coach knows what he is doing and has got the scrubs Cable had playing better than they ever did under Cable. Solari i trust always did. He will teach 3rd and 4th rounders to be good quality Olineman. Something Cable couldn't do with 1st rounders.

 

[JMR]

My remark wasn't in reference to JS, but more to those who want a linemen period.
As for there's a lineman worth drafting late in the first. I couldn't say, but it doesn't seem to be a slam dunk to me.

Well, I think we have to keep in mind that about 50% of 1st round picks fail.

 

[JMR]

without hindsight, we base it on the consensus of scouts and experts.

we have been reaching in the early rounds for some time now and it hasnt worked out all that well. plenty of examples where taking the consensus BPA would have been a better choice.

And there are also plenty of examples of where the "consensus" BPA didn't work either.

 

[seahawksfan234]

I think the first three picks should be OL and DL, whichever is better when we pick.

Also a late round RB.

I agree going heavy on OL and DL, but I think we're good at RB with Carson and Penny. We also drafted Travis Homer in the 6th or 7th round last year so we won't have a hole there in terms of personnel.

 

[seahawksfan234]

Should have snagged Hargreaves off the waivers before the Texans got him.

I think we would've been on the hook for the rest of his salary this season which would've been somewhat hefty. Also after claiming Josh Gordon I think that put us at the bottom of the waiver wire.

 

[seahawksfan234]

Or just resign Clowney... but yah, we need depth regardless. Ansah hasn't been what I was hoping we were in for.

I've read some articles that all indicate it's unlikely the Seahawks re-sign Clowney unless he takes a discount - which is a possibility given all the positive comments he had made about the culture in the organization.

I'm in favor of re-signing him, but the argument against it is that he'd command $20m+ a year and that would mean the Seahawks would be tying up an extreme amount of their salary cap on just three players.

 

[seahawksfan234]

In trying to solve the riddle of who may play opposite Clowney in 2020 (assuming he's re-signed of course), are we already just writing off Collier?? Being a stud as a rookie is the exception and not the rule. He should get at least 2 seasons.

If the Seahawks re-sign Clowney I'd be surprised if they used any early picks on an edge rusher. They're not likely to give up on Collier so soon and they drafted Rasheem Green in 2018 under the assumption that he was a bit of a project and needed more seasoning. Also Quinton Jefferson has played pretty well from what I've observed.

 

[JMR]

If the Seahawks re-sign Clowney I'd be surprised if they used any early picks on an edge rusher. They're not likely to give up on Collier so soon and they drafted Rasheem Green in 2018 under the assumption that he was a bit of a project and needed more seasoning. Also Quinton Jefferson has played pretty well from what I've observed.

I may not expect them to either, but it wouldn't be the first time JS went an unexpected direction early in the draft. DT could be a bit thin if Reed leaves.