Antonio Brown Has Been Traded to the Raiders

[thedddd]

Not going to go on anymore about the horrible deal due to:

a. AB being AB
b. The Steelers letting this go on.

So with that said this is all I can do:

 

[SteelersPride]

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Ultimately this is a small loss for the Steelers, a small loss for the Raiders, and a good result for Brown. Once the Bills backed out of giving up high 2nd round pick value for Brown the trade market was always likely to be difficult. I don't think the Steelers could have gotten more at this point and waiting, (which would have included swallowing a roster bonus), would only have made the sour taste even more bitter. This trade is a decent result for them given the circumstances and alternatives. The Steelers are paying the price for a questionable contract that gave Brown too much money too early, and poor man management skills that allowed a minor dispute to blow-up into a full blown conflict. It's not the 1980s any more when players have no money. You can't push multi-millionaires around so easily. The Raiders have effectively given someone who might have ended up as a FA a bumper FA contract but lost a 3rd and 5th round pick into the bargain. They've turned a potential trade win into a net loss. The only one smiling is Brown. At least it's over.

Brown wasn’t going to be a FA. The Steelers weren’t releasing a guy who led the NFL in touchdowns last year and has 6 years straight of 100+ catches when they have a 21 million dollar cap hit in 2019. Not happening.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

i think yes teams like the colts, who have a GM who has come out and publicly been against personalities and contracts AB and bell want, would not get involved in this. I also believe guys like belicheck are smart, and are only gonna bring in personalities they feel they can fix or work with. bell got paid out the ass in those franchise tags. He had a contract on the table giving him basically what he wanted, still turned it down, thinks hes better than gurley. I think alot of teams dont wanna pay a psychopath the most money in the nfl, with all his history of diva activity.......OBJ been rumored to be available for some time, curious what ur take is there? why no movement?

Just so I have this straight:

1. Pitt offered Bell the money he wanted and he turned it down, instead choosing to sit out a year and make nothing? I’m going out on a limb and saying the years and dollar amount may have been what he wanted, but the guaranteed money was not.
A contract is only worth what is guaranteed in the NFL.

2. You honestly believe the only offers Pitt received were from Buffalo and Oakland. If you truly believe that — I can’t change your mind. I’d be willing to wager that is most definitely not the case. I’d go a step further and say Pittsburgh had a list of teams they wouldn’t even answer a call from.

But if you want to believe your front office, who bungled their way to losing two of the best players in the NFL for a couple mid round draft picks, feel free.

 

[fastforward]

Brown wasn’t going to be a FA. The Steelers weren’t releasing a guy who led the NFL in touchdowns last year and has 6 years straight of 100+ catches when they have a 21 million dollar cap hit in 2019. Not happening.

Maybe, maybe not. At some point even a great player becomes a net minus that you're better off cutting if you can't trade him. A 3rd and a 5th isn't that far removed just cutting him.

 

[SteelersPride]

Just so I have this straight:

1. Pitt offered Bell the money he wanted and he turned it down, instead choosing to sit out a year and make nothing? I’m going out on a limb and saying the years and dollar amount may have been what he wanted, but the guaranteed money was not.
A contract is only worth what is guaranteed in the NFL.

2. You honestly believe the only offers Pitt received were from Buffalo and Oakland. If you truly believe that — I can’t change your mind. I’d be willing to wager that is most definitely not the case. I’d go a step further and say Pittsburgh had a list of teams they wouldn’t even answer a call from.

But if you want to believe your front office, who bungled their way to losing two of the best players in the NFL for a couple mid round draft picks, feel free.

well numebr 1 u may be right, #2, i truly dont know i just read an article basically stating everyone knew about his crazy demands for over a month, and the bills were offering a high second, couldnt get it done because of nutjobs demands, and other teams werent "in" because of the demands. i dont believe the FO, i just dont believe the complete opposite as well.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Interesting article on ESPN on Brown and what went wrong ( money of course)

Barnwell grades the Antonio Brown trade: Why Oakland fleeced Pittsburgh

In Year 4, Brown broke out as one of the top wideouts in the league with a 1,499-yard campaign. From 2013 to '16, Brown averaged -- averaged -- 120 catches, 1,578 yards and 11 touchdowns per season. Because he was under contract through the end of the 2017 season, though, the Steelers were able to pay Brown just $28.8 million over that four-year span, which is a little more than the annual average salary guys such as Robert Meachem and Laurent Robinson were getting in free agency. Former Steelers teammate Mike Wallacehit free agency and netted a five-year, $60 million deal with the Dolphins that paid him $36.9 million over three seasons before he was cut after 2015.

Brown was making less than half of his true market value, and while most players deal with that during their rookie deals, he was struggling with it on his second contract. With the Steelers' cap tied up thanks to years of subpar financial decisions, they repeatedly restructured Brown's deal to create pockets of short-term cap room without giving him any notable raise

, the Steelers have a policy of guaranteeing only the bonuses in the first year of their deals. Cameron Heyward's deal has $15 million guaranteed, with a $12 million signing bonus and a $3 million roster bonus paid in Year 1, but nothing else afterward. Elite guard David DeCastro has a $16 million guarantee, all of which is in his signing bonus. Even Roethlisberger's most recent extension consists of a $31 million signing bonus with no other guarantees,

After waiting for years to get his contract, Brown got $19 million guaranteed when he signed his deal, all in the signing bonus. Throw in a $910,000 base salary and Brown took home $19.9 million in 2017 as part of a four-year, $68 million extension. That's good money, of course, but when DeAndre Hopkinssigned his extension six months later, he took home $24 million in 2017 and still had a $12.5 million guaranteed base salary for the following season. Brandin Cooks' extension paid $11 million in Year 1, but the structure of the deal basically guarantees he'll take home $63.5 million over the next four seasons. Brown only gets to that ballpark if he continues to be great.

Given what has happened over the past decade, you might understand why Brown would feel disrespected, even on a deal with an average annual salary in new money of $17 million per season. There was no chance that the Steelers, who exploited one of the best bargains in football for years, were going to uproot their contract structure by giving Brown a new extension or even guarantee a future season with three years left on his current deal. Instead, they preferred to let someone else pay Brown.

It's one of the same reasons why they weren't able to come to terms with Le'Veon Bell, who says the Steelers offered him only $17 million guaranteed as part of a five-year, $70 million deal. That contractual policy is going to cost the team both of its star weapons in the same offseason, and its cap philosophy is going to make it feel the pain of that decision in one of the final seasons of Roethlisberger's career.


First thing I've every read that made me feel Brown might of had a decent reason to be unhappy with the Steelers.

 

[dbldwn711]

JuJu Smith-Schuster Posts Must-See Twitter Response To Antonio Brown And The Raiders

Can I humbly make a suggestion?

I’d suggest it’s time for the Steelers organization to put a clamp on this kind of social media.

Yeah... it’s funny and all but don’t ya think it’s time to give a rest for a little while?

 

[broncosmitty]

Pittsburgh earned this buttfucking.


Nobody to blame but themselves.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Maybe, maybe not. At some point even a great player becomes a net minus that you're better off cutting if you can't trade him. A 3rd and a 5th isn't that far removed just cutting him.

If the player is a headache and he isn’t producing elite numbers, I completely agree.

When the player puts up monster numbers and leads the NFL in touchdown catches — Pitt is most definitely not better off without him.

It just made the job tougher for every player on the offense, especially Schuster-Smith, who will now face the top CB on opposing teams and will see double teams much more frequently.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

well numebr 1 u may be right, #2, i truly dont know i just read an article basically stating everyone knew about his crazy demands for over a month, and the bills were offering a high second, couldnt get it done because of nutjobs demands, and other teams werent "in" because of the demands. i dont believe the FO, i just dont believe the complete opposite as well.

1. Someone just posted the Steelers philosophy and what they offered Bell. 5 years 70 million with only 17 million guaranteed. So it could have basically been a 1 year 17 million dollar deal, because the rest of the contract means absolutely nothing, because the Steelers could cut him at any time and owe him nothing. This is exactly why Bell sat out instead of letting Pitt overuse him like they did in 2017.

2. I’m not seeing what is crazy about Brown’s demands? He is one of, if not, the best WR’s in football. The NFL is now a pass happy league. Just like Pitt’s contract with Bell, nothing about Brown’s contract was guaranteed after that first year. He got from Oakland, exactly what he should have received from Pitt.

 

[SteelersPride]

1. Someone just posted the Steelers philosophy and what they offered Bell. 5 years 70 million with only 17 million guaranteed. So it could have basically been a 1 year 17 million dollar deal, because the rest of the contract means absolutely nothing, because the Steelers could cut him at any time and owe him nothing. This is exactly why Bell sat out instead of letting Pitt overuse him like they did in 2017.

2. I’m not seeing what is crazy about Brown’s demands? He is one of, if not, the best WR’s in football. The NFL is now a pass happy league. Just like Pitt’s contract with Bell, nothing about Brown’s contract was guaranteed after that first year. He got from Oakland, exactly what he should have received from Pitt.

well in one sense then why guarantee money if after a year you arent gonna be happy with your contract? and want more money, those one year deals are better.......

these guys want guaranteed money, but then want more and not to abide by the terms they agreed to

 

[SteelersPride]

Interesting article on ESPN on Brown and what went wrong ( money of course)

Barnwell grades the Antonio Brown trade: Why Oakland fleeced Pittsburgh

In Year 4, Brown broke out as one of the top wideouts in the league with a 1,499-yard campaign. From 2013 to '16, Brown averaged -- averaged -- 120 catches, 1,578 yards and 11 touchdowns per season. Because he was under contract through the end of the 2017 season, though, the Steelers were able to pay Brown just $28.8 million over that four-year span, which is a little more than the annual average salary guys such as Robert Meachem and Laurent Robinson were getting in free agency. Former Steelers teammate Mike Wallacehit free agency and netted a five-year, $60 million deal with the Dolphins that paid him $36.9 million over three seasons before he was cut after 2015.

Brown was making less than half of his true market value, and while most players deal with that during their rookie deals, he was struggling with it on his second contract. With the Steelers' cap tied up thanks to years of subpar financial decisions, they repeatedly restructured Brown's deal to create pockets of short-term cap room without giving him any notable raise

, the Steelers have a policy of guaranteeing only the bonuses in the first year of their deals. Cameron Heyward's deal has $15 million guaranteed, with a $12 million signing bonus and a $3 million roster bonus paid in Year 1, but nothing else afterward. Elite guard David DeCastro has a $16 million guarantee, all of which is in his signing bonus. Even Roethlisberger's most recent extension consists of a $31 million signing bonus with no other guarantees,

After waiting for years to get his contract, Brown got $19 million guaranteed when he signed his deal, all in the signing bonus. Throw in a $910,000 base salary and Brown took home $19.9 million in 2017 as part of a four-year, $68 million extension. That's good money, of course, but when DeAndre Hopkinssigned his extension six months later, he took home $24 million in 2017 and still had a $12.5 million guaranteed base salary for the following season. Brandin Cooks' extension paid $11 million in Year 1, but the structure of the deal basically guarantees he'll take home $63.5 million over the next four seasons. Brown only gets to that ballpark if he continues to be great.

Given what has happened over the past decade, you might understand why Brown would feel disrespected, even on a deal with an average annual salary in new money of $17 million per season. There was no chance that the Steelers, who exploited one of the best bargains in football for years, were going to uproot their contract structure by giving Brown a new extension or even guarantee a future season with three years left on his current deal. Instead, they preferred to let someone else pay Brown.

It's one of the same reasons why they weren't able to come to terms with Le'Veon Bell, who says the Steelers offered him only $17 million guaranteed as part of a five-year, $70 million deal. That contractual policy is going to cost the team both of its star weapons in the same offseason, and its cap philosophy is going to make it feel the pain of that decision in one of the final seasons of Roethlisberger's career.


First thing I've every read that made me feel Brown might of had a decent reason to be unhappy with the Steelers.

the steelers also gave him his first contact, and more money than he deserved when wallace left, betting on AB, before AB broke out. But no one remembers that..........

after two seasons they gave him a :
Pittsburgh Steelers signed Brown to a five-year, $42.5 million extension that included an $8.5 million signing bonus.[55]

 

[SteelersPride]

@TrustMeIamRight you ignored, on purpose im sure, my direct question to you regarding OBJ.

 

[Myles]

Pitt took what they could get, which wasn't much. Many teams value locker room unity quite a bit right now. Maybe too much, but we'll see. The Colts need a WR bad, but Ballard has said that he is not wanting to bring in a devising attitude.

 

[eaglesnut]

Interesting article on ESPN on Brown and what went wrong ( money of course)

Barnwell grades the Antonio Brown trade: Why Oakland fleeced Pittsburgh

In Year 4, Brown broke out as one of the top wideouts in the league with a 1,499-yard campaign. From 2013 to '16, Brown averaged -- averaged -- 120 catches, 1,578 yards and 11 touchdowns per season. Because he was under contract through the end of the 2017 season, though, the Steelers were able to pay Brown just $28.8 million over that four-year span, which is a little more than the annual average salary guys such as Robert Meachem and Laurent Robinson were getting in free agency. Former Steelers teammate Mike Wallacehit free agency and netted a five-year, $60 million deal with the Dolphins that paid him $36.9 million over three seasons before he was cut after 2015.

Brown was making less than half of his true market value, and while most players deal with that during their rookie deals, he was struggling with it on his second contract. With the Steelers' cap tied up thanks to years of subpar financial decisions, they repeatedly restructured Brown's deal to create pockets of short-term cap room without giving him any notable raise

, the Steelers have a policy of guaranteeing only the bonuses in the first year of their deals. Cameron Heyward's deal has $15 million guaranteed, with a $12 million signing bonus and a $3 million roster bonus paid in Year 1, but nothing else afterward. Elite guard David DeCastro has a $16 million guarantee, all of which is in his signing bonus. Even Roethlisberger's most recent extension consists of a $31 million signing bonus with no other guarantees,

After waiting for years to get his contract, Brown got $19 million guaranteed when he signed his deal, all in the signing bonus. Throw in a $910,000 base salary and Brown took home $19.9 million in 2017 as part of a four-year, $68 million extension. That's good money, of course, but when DeAndre Hopkinssigned his extension six months later, he took home $24 million in 2017 and still had a $12.5 million guaranteed base salary for the following season. Brandin Cooks' extension paid $11 million in Year 1, but the structure of the deal basically guarantees he'll take home $63.5 million over the next four seasons. Brown only gets to that ballpark if he continues to be great.

Given what has happened over the past decade, you might understand why Brown would feel disrespected, even on a deal with an average annual salary in new money of $17 million per season. There was no chance that the Steelers, who exploited one of the best bargains in football for years, were going to uproot their contract structure by giving Brown a new extension or even guarantee a future season with three years left on his current deal. Instead, they preferred to let someone else pay Brown.

It's one of the same reasons why they weren't able to come to terms with Le'Veon Bell, who says the Steelers offered him only $17 million guaranteed as part of a five-year, $70 million deal. That contractual policy is going to cost the team both of its star weapons in the same offseason, and its cap philosophy is going to make it feel the pain of that decision in one of the final seasons of Roethlisberger's career.


First thing I've every read that made me feel Brown might of had a decent reason to be unhappy with the Steelers.

Of course he had good reason. He was dominating the league and they weren't paying him like it.

The Steelers only want good deals, not good players. Their policy is clear.

 

[SteelersPride]

Of course he had good reason. He was dominating the league and they weren't paying him like it.

The Steelers only want good deals, not good players. Their policy is clear.

lololololololool u are funny my friend

 

[richig07]

Biggest L for the Steelers is having to carry $21M in dead cap from this shit, this season. As for Brown, well he's going where receiver's careers go to damn-near die. He's a damn clown and now I have an even bigger reason to think he's a douchebag.

This was the part that shocked me. I was thinking "Okay, only a 3rd and a 5th... but they get his contract off of the books." When I saw that - I was thinking "god dayyum".

 

[richig07]

Of course he had good reason. He was dominating the league and they weren't paying him like it.

The Steelers only want good deals, not good players. Their policy is clear.

That's intelligent, though. You shouldn't pay top shelf money to WR's or RB's

 

[Ojb81]

Of course he had good reason. He was dominating the league and they weren't paying him like it.

The Steelers only want good deals, not good players. Their policy is clear.

eagles troll is a troll