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Yeah, he seems to also go to the Prince Fielder school of conditioning also

Not that turning into Prince Fielder the player would be bad at all

Just as long as he doesn't suffer a similar dropoff. I can't believe Prince has been out of baseball for a year now. He was a great hitter. :(
 

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People close to free agent slugger J.D. Martinez believe he is willing to "hold out certainly into spring training," per Jon Heyman of FanRag Sports.

Martinez and his agent Scott Boras want a seven-year contract worth between $180 million and $210 million, but his best offers right now are reportedly for five years and between $120-150 million. One of those five-year offers was made by the Red Sox, who have seemed like the most logical fit for Martinez since the offseason began. Heyman's sources suggest at least one other team has made a five-year offer too. Martinez, 30, batted .303/.376/.690 with 45 home runs and 104 RBI in 119 games between the Tigers and Diamondbacks in 2017.

What a gay offseason. The top 5 free agents are currently repped by Boras too.
 

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What a gay offseason. The top 5 free agents are currently repped by Boras too.


I was just saying it to someone else if we are seeing the end of the Boras era coming

He overvalues his players, the market correction is here, and teams seem to just try to flat out avoid his players more and more
 

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According to Jon Heyman of FanRag Sports, the Mets nearly had a trade worked out for Jason Kipnis earlier this offseason.

Heyman writes that it was apparently "killed by someone at the top" of the Mets' front office, "very likely over money." Trade talks between the Mets and Indians probably won't fire back up given that the self-budgeting Mets just signed Jay Bruce to a three-year, $39 million free agent deal. Kipnis is owed $30.5 million guaranteed over the next two years. He figures to open the 2018 season as Cleveland's regular second baseman, with Jose Ramirez primarily playing third.

I don't even love Kipnis but this is just so typical. It pretty much suggests the Bruce deal was all we should expect this offseason.
 

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I don't even love Kipnis but this is just so typical. It pretty much suggests the Bruce deal was all we should expect this offseason.


I have a hunch on Frazier...He so badly wants to stay in the area, and he shouldnt cost a dollar more than Bruce

And totally agree on Kipnis at that price, dont love that at all, but b/c its the Mets, its a bad look
 

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With the Bruce signing as well as projected arbitration figures, the Mets payroll is $138 million. Last year they peaked at $155 million. Would it kill them to match last year's salary?
 
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With the Bruce signing as well as projected arbitration figures, the Mets payroll is $138 million. Last year they peaked at $155 million. Would it kill them to match last year's salary?


Do you think the Mets have a chance for the division?

The Bruce signing looks like a Pirate move, signing a crappy vet just for the hell of it.
 

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Do you think the Mets have a chance for the division?

The Bruce signing looks like a Pirate move, signing a crappy vet just for the hell of it.


The one thing the Mets have going in their favor, they are really only competing with one team in that division...The Braves are getting better, but still last place material, and the Phillies are horrendous
 
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Good point, I guess the mets can beat up on the Marlins/Phillies/Braves and get a WC at least, maybe the division if the nats have a bad year.
 

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Do you think the Mets have a chance for the division?

The Bruce signing looks like a Pirate move, signing a crappy vet just for the hell of it.

Unless their rotation stays healthy and Harvey gets back to pre-2016 form, I don't see anyone threatening the Nats. Fangraphs currently projects the Nats to finish ahead of the Mets by 11 games (91-71 to 80-82) and the rest of the division doesn't fare any better. The offense just doesn't look very good and they'll have to replace Duda/Walker. Rosario and Smith might be key franchise players in the future, but I wouldn't expect them to replace that kind of production just yet.
 

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Unless their rotation stays healthy and Harvey gets back to pre-2016 form, I don't see anyone threatening the Nats. Fangraphs currently projects the Nats to finish ahead of the Mets by 11 games (91-71 to 80-82) and the rest of the division doesn't fare any better. The offense just doesn't look very good and they'll have to replace Duda/Walker. Rosario and Smith might be key franchise players in the future, but I wouldn't expect them to replace that kind of production just yet.

Pretty much this. If Syndergaard, Degrom and Cespedes are healthy and producing they should stay afloat. But they need a lot to fall in place for them to seriously contend. Still need another bat, need another starter to step up. Wildcard has to be their goal.
 

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Pretty much this. If Syndergaard, Degrom and Cespedes are healthy and producing they should stay afloat. But they need a lot to fall in place for them to seriously contend. Still need another bat, need another starter to step up. Wildcard has to be their goal.

I think a Wild Card (probably 2nd) is realistic. I think the D-Backs and Rockies will take a step back this year. Both pitching staffs seem like candidates for regression. Fangraphs' depth chart projections have both of them regressing in 2018, though the D-Backs still look like one of the top WC contenders.
 

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The one thing the Mets have going in their favor, they are really only competing with one team in that division...The Braves are getting better, but still last place material, and the Phillies are horrendous
I think the Phils will add some pieces eventually, but ... yeah, the Marlins are going to probably lose 90. I can't tell what's up with the Braves ... maybe 75 wins. I don't think they will be brutal.
 

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I think the Phils will add some pieces eventually, but ... yeah, the Marlins are going to probably lose 90. I can't tell what's up with the Braves ... maybe 75 wins. I don't think they will be brutal.

If anything, they might push 100. They lost 85 games last year (with an equivalent pythag) and they've traded Gordon, Stanton and Ozuna. They have to replace the reigning NL MVP, an All-Star and an above average 2B. There's also the possibility they trade at least one of Realmuto/Yelich.
 

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Rosenthal is trying to gin up hot-stove chat about NY teams.
I take most of his stuff at face value. He isn't as much of a gossip as Heyman, though.
 

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Would have loved Reed back, oh well, let's see what the young arms we acquired last year have to offer.
 
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