Game Thread: Game 8: Lions vs Packers

[Zwalt]

playclock does not matter now? That was 0 for several seconds

There were several instances of that today, either 0 means zero or it doesn’t.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Maybe Aubrey Pleasant was the problem?

It could very well have been AB, but I've got to see more than this game. It's not like Rodgers and company were killing it against other teams.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

On a more significant note, the Rams lost again.

Mwahahahaha.

Wouldn't it be awesome to see the Rams with a worse record than the Lions?

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

I hope he is okay after the Okudah shot

 

[Mebert]

What is crazy to me is Okudah had probably his worst game this year, but the DB's played their best game so far overall. If Okudah is on do the Lions actaully have decent DB's?

 

[Old Lion]

Re-sign John Cominsky this upcoming off-season - should he continue to play the way he has today and those first two games.

It was Cominsky who was constantly communicating to the D-Line the play calls and where to line up.

I see a veteran leader in Cominsky for this D-Line in 2023/2024.

I want to see Pascal play inside on passing downs more.

 

[Old Lion]

Kerby Joseph should be awarded "MVP for this game".

It's nice to see him get comfortable and become the playmaker they had hope he'd become - in a year or two.

Tracy Walker is going to find it difficult to earn a starting position next year because he's proven unreliable to play in the box.

Joseph looking like Holmes' best defensive player drafted beyond day 1.

No. It just means we will have a lot of 3 safety looks and probably will not be drafting a safety. Even CJ Moore looked decent on the field. Basically the whole group looks better without AP.

 

[Mebert]

No. It just means we will have a lot of 3 safety looks and probably will not be drafting a safety. Even CJ Moore looked decent on the field. Basically the whole group looks better without AP.

I like the group of 3. Elliot can be the in the box, Walker and Joseph have the coverage.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

What is crazy to me is Okudah had probably his worst game this year, but the DB's played their best game so far overall. If Okudah is on do the Lions actaully have decent DB's?

Outside of the TD pass to Lazard - Lazard is 6'5 and a long wingspan - and the pass completed to Christian Watson, I thought Okudah played very well. He had mostly tight coverage on his WR while in man coverage. Okudah was primarily right on Lazard's hip, and it was a near perfect throw where only Lazard was going to get the ball.

I like what I've seen from Okudah this year even when he coughs up a handful of bad plays per game. He's so much better than his rookie year.

Even though Jacobs needs more time and had a couple of mistakes himself, he's physical at the point of attack when the ball is coming his way.

We still need another outside CB this draft and preferably one above 6' with some wingspan.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

No. It just means we will have a lot of 3 safety looks and probably will not be drafting a safety. Even CJ Moore looked decent on the field. Basically, the whole group looks better without AP.

That Achilles injury could literally change everything we were confident in TW lll play. I'm not discounting him next year, but you still should be concerned. Every player recovers differently, and every player's Achilles injury, surgery and rehab is different. Hell, it was week 4 that Romeo tore his Achilles last year and there still isn't a peep of words when he'll be back.

It's also a proven fact that TW lll struggles somewhat when playing within 10 yards of L.O.S. Maybe now that Patricia is gone, he'll respond and play better when in the box.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

I like the group of 3. Elliot can be the in the box, Walker and Joseph have the coverage.

Yes, this is correct and yet we still haven't witnessed what Melifonwu can bring to the field. If Melifonwu can show he's capable of making that switch from CB to Safety, then the Lions are sitting pretty so long as they re-sign DeShon Elliot

 

[Mebert]

Outside of the TD pass to Lazard - Lazard is 6'5 and a long wingspan - and the pass completed to Christian Watson, I thought Okudah played very well. He had mostly tight coverage on his WR while in man coverage. Okudah was primarily right on Lazard's hip, and it was a near perfect throw where only Lazard was going to get the ball.

I like what I've seen from Okudah this year even when he coughs up a handful of bad plays per game. He's so much better than his rookie year.

Even though Jacobs needs more time and had a couple of mistakes himself, he's physical at the point of attack when the ball is coming his way.

We still need another outside CB this draft and preferably one above 6' with some wingspan.

Almost Every CB ever is going to get burned, it is a fact of life for the position. I could not be more thrilled with what he has been so far this year, the forced fumble at the end was a huge heads up play that was a few inches away from ending the game there. I just felt in general he was out of position more often this week, and was completely out of control at the end of the play. His bad week this week is still a massive improvement over what I even expected him to be this year. He is a true CB1, have not had that since Slay

 

[Old Lion]

That Achilles injury could literally change everything we were confident in TW lll play. I'm not discounting him next year, but you still should be concerned. Every player recovers differently, and every player's Achilles injury, surgery and rehab is different. Hell, it was week 4 that Romeo tore his Achilles last year and there still isn't a peep of words when he'll be back.

It's also a proven fact that TW lll struggles somewhat when playing within 10 yards of L.O.S. Maybe now that Patricia is gone, he'll respond and play better when in the box.

Very true. Resigning Elliot too will make a huge difference too.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Awesome Kerby. I hope to see continued growth in his play - he'll have a bad week or two or three in a season as most do, but man, he's so much further advanced with only a years' worth of starter at CFB level.

From the Lions’ PR department, Joseph’s Week 9 performance made the rookie:

• The first Lions safety to record a two-interception game since Louis Delmas in 2013.
• The NFL’s first safety to produce a game with at least 10 combined tackles, three pass defenses and two INTs in a game since Bernard Pollard in 2009.
• The first Lions safety with three pass defenses in a game since Glover Quin in 2014.
• The first rookie safety to produce a game with three PDs and two INTs since Jairus Byrd in 2009.
• The first Lions rookie to produce a two-interception game since Devon Mitchell in 1986.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Lions versus Packers

Defense Overall Grades - with a minimum of 20 snaps

Kerby Joseph 90.1 ............... Coverage Grade 83.7
CJ Moore 97.4 ...................... Coverage Grade 81.1
Jerry Jacobs 83.3 ................. Coverage Grade 81.5
Derrick Barnes 76.1 ............ Coverage Grade 50.1
Julian Okwara 72.1
DeShon Elliot 69.5 .............. Coverage Grade 67.0
Josh Paschal 69.1
Jeffrey Okudah 68.1 ........... Coverage Grade 65.8
Mike Hughes 67.8 ............... Coverage Grade 63.9
Aidan Hutchinson 65.9
John Cominsky 65.2
Alim McNeil 61.3
Benito Jones 60.2
Alex Anzalone 58.7 - waiting for @Mebert to chime in ............. Coverage Grade 65.3
Isaiah Buggs 57.3
Will Harris 50.5 - he graded the worse of all defensive players ............. Coverage Grade 52.6

Offense Overall Grades

James Mitchell 84.8
Penei Sewell 79.5
Justin Jackson 79.1
Frank Ragnow 76.1
Amon-Ra St. Brown 74.8
Shane Zylstra 72.3
Evan Brown 68.9
DeAndre Swift 68.6
Taylor Decker 66.1
Kalif Raymond 63.4
Jamaal Williams 60.8
Jonah Jackson 57.1
Dan Skipper 54.6
Tom Kennedy 50.6
Jared Goff 48.0
Brock Wright 46.4

 

[jayfan]

Re-sign John Cominsky this upcoming off-season - should he continue to play the way he has today and those first two games.

It was Cominsky who was constantly communicating to the D-Line the play calls and where to line up.

I see a veteran leader in Cominsky for this D-Line in 2023/2024.

Yep. Cominsky and Evan Brown will need contracts post haste. No-brainers, both. And both will come at reasonable rates.

Last thing this team needs is to create additional holes by letting their own walk.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Last thing this team needs is to create additional holes by letting their own walk.

Are you angry that they traded Hockenson?

That move could prove to be an extreme positive in 2023/2024 and beyond no matter which side of the ball the pick is used for - I doubt that pick or any of the day 1 or day 2 picks will be used on the TE position.

That pick from the Vikings might very well end up being used on a QB.

 

[Mebert]

I am going to need a few minutes to process Will Harris and Anzelone being the lowest rated players on defense. How did we get to this point? I did not see any indicators that this could happen!

 

[Old Lion]

Lions versus Packers

Defense Overall Grades - with a minimum of 20 snaps

Kerby Joseph 90.1 ............... Coverage Grade 83.7
CJ Moore 97.4 ...................... Coverage Grade 81.1
Jerry Jacobs 83.3 ................. Coverage Grade 81.5
Derrick Barnes 76.1 ............ Coverage Grade 50.1
Julian Okwara 72.1
DeShon Elliot 69.5 .............. Coverage Grade 67.0
Josh Paschal 69.1
Jeffrey Okudah 68.1 ........... Coverage Grade 65.8
Mike Hughes 67.8 ............... Coverage Grade 63.9
Aidan Hutchinson 65.9
John Cominsky 65.2
Alim McNeil 61.3
Benito Jones 60.2
Alex Anzalone 58.7 - waiting for @Mebert to chime in ............. Coverage Grade 65.3
Isaiah Buggs 57.3
Will Harris 50.5 - he graded the worse of all defensive players ............. Coverage Grade 52.6

Offense Overall Grades

James Mitchell 84.8
Penei Sewell 79.5
Justin Jackson 79.1
Frank Ragnow 76.1
Amon-Ra St. Brown 74.8
Shane Zylstra 72.3
Evan Brown 68.9
DeAndre Swift 68.6
Taylor Decker 66.1
Kalif Raymond 63.4
Jamaal Williams 60.8
Jonah Jackson 57.1
Dan Skipper 54.6
Tom Kennedy 50.6
Jared Goff 48.0
Brock Wright 46.4

I hate to say it but Harris played better than what his grade was.

Thank goodness they changed their mind about Justin Jackson.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

I am going to need a few minutes to process Will Harris and Anzelone being the lowest rated players on defense. How did we get to this point? I did not see any indicators that this could happen!

You might want to give up your field level seats and move on up to the top - nose bleed seats - like wheezy, so you get a better overall view - bring binoculars.