Riddick Video is the best

[SoCalWizFan]

Several things. As j_y pointed out previously do we truly believe that Allen received absolutely no feedback at all from Cousins' agent since early May on the proposed contract? I find that almost impossible to believe. Even if that is correct - again - no response from Cousins' camp to me indicates that they don't agree with the offer & possibly view it as an insult. Why wouldn't the Redskins then make a counter? Why would they then make a public statement via video after the deadline & also give the media no chance to ask questions?

Cousins correctly stated that the Redskins offer basically is a 2 year offer & really provides nothing more than what he will already get if he is tagged next season or signs w/ another team. Dean - why in the world would you view that as acceptable or even see an issue with Cousins' agent (not Cousins - he doesn't deal w/ the team directly) not replying to the basically insulting offer?

It becomes more obvious with every post from you that you just flat out don't like Cousins in spite of your continual denials. One telling sign is that you post any anti-Cousins article to this forum in very short order on almost every occasion. Deny away....

 

[SoCalWizFan]

because kirk wants to be a redskins.. skins want kirk sports SportsHoopla CSI they hate each other allen and fo are bad blah blah blah no proof of hate

I never believed that Allen or Snyder hated Cousins nor necessarily want to part ways with him next offseason. I see this more as bad planning and PR on the part of Allen and the FO. I still believe that they may keep him long term. However - it will involve significantly more money.

The Redskins could have easily avoided this by moving into the 21st century & realizing that QBs get paid a ton of money (& don't have to be at the level of Brady to justify it) and understand that replacing someone like Cousins is not as easy as some believe. I truly believe that the biggest obstacle to this is the ego of Allen and Snyder. Not saying that perhaps you could find some issue w/ Cousins' stance, but that is not the primary issue.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Bruce named him Kurt.. .that took back all the leverage.

I actually don't have that big of an issue with him using the wrong name - it happens & Cousins stated that it doesn't bother him. IMO the bigger issue is the subsequent denial claiming that it sounded that way due to his "accent". WTF? He grew up in No Va - what accent? Is this guy capable of being honest about anything?

 

[j_y19]

Several things. As j_y pointed out previously do we truly believe that Allen received absolutely no feedback at all from Cousins' agent since early May on the proposed contract? I find that almost impossible to believe. Even if that is correct - again - no response from Cousins' camp to me indicates that they don't agree with the offer & possibly view it as an insult. Why wouldn't the Redskins then make a counter? Why would they then make a public statement via video after the deadline & also give the media no chance to ask questions?

Cousins correctly stated that the Redskins offer basically is a 2 year offer & really provides nothing more than what he will already get if he is tagged next season or signs w/ another team. Dean - why in the world would you view that as acceptable or even see an issue with Cousins' agent (not Cousins - he doesn't deal w/ the team directly) not replying to the basically insulting offer?

It becomes more obvious with every post from you that you just flat out don't like Cousins in spite of your continual denials. One telling sign is that you post any anti-Cousins article to this forum in very short order on almost every occasion. Deny away....

Dean views it that way because that is the only way he can claim the he was right. This is all Dean cares about. The dude has a serious inferiority complex and needs constant validation.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

You also have to remember that Riddick worked in some capacity for the Redskins FO from 2001-2007 & has credited them several times with helping to get his career to its current pt. One has to assume that he will side with the Redskins FO in cases like this.

 

[deanpet21]

Congratulations. You found one guy that agrees with you. If you search hard enough, you might find two.

so why don't you insult Riddick like you did me? Riddick and I said the same exact thing. Riddick is a former personnel man plus was in consideration for NFL GM jobs. So this doesnt matter to you? You just take this has a grain of salt? This proves how my viewpoints are right no with EXPEINCED NFL people.

 

[deanpet21]

Several things. As j_y pointed out previously do we truly believe that Allen received absolutely no feedback at all from Cousins' agent since early May on the proposed contract? I find that almost impossible to believe. Even if that is correct - again - no response from Cousins' camp to me indicates that they don't agree with the offer & possibly view it as an insult. Why wouldn't the Redskins then make a counter? Why would they then make a public statement via video after the deadline & also give the media no chance to ask questions?

Cousins correctly stated that the Redskins offer basically is a 2 year offer & really provides nothing more than what he will already get if he is tagged next season or signs w/ another team. Dean - why in the world would you view that as acceptable or even see an issue with Cousins' agent (not Cousins - he doesn't deal w/ the team directly) not replying to the basically insulting offer?

It becomes more obvious with every post from you that you just flat out don't like Cousins in spite of your continual denials. One telling sign is that you post any anti-Cousins article to this forum in very short order on almost every occasion. Deny away....

Like the video said. If he wanted to stay here long term he would have countered. Simple as that.

 

[Sleepy T]

Riddick IMO is spot on. Seriously doubt he wants to be here. Just lip services to maintain his leverage after this season as ANOTHER firmer NFL exec and FO guy has said.

Which brings us to the next subject...do we trade him??

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...kirk-cousins-they-should-trade-him-right-now/

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Riddick IMO is spot on. Seriously doubt he wants to be here. Just lip services to maintain his leverage after this season as ANOTHER firmer NFL exec and FO guy has said.

Which brings us to the next subject...do we trade him??

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...kirk-cousins-they-should-trade-him-right-now/

Wow - you guys really don't like Cousins - I get it. Anyhow - fair pt here I guess. Ok - so let's say that they trade him - are you ready to just give up on this season already? I understand that there is a chance that they could do well this season even w/o Cousins but the chances of that happening are slim. I am not stating that even w/ Cousins that they will make a deep playoff run - just saying that he gives them a better shot than McCoy, Sudfeld or some scrub that they pickup in the next month or so.

This has nothing to do with future years - I am just asking about the upcoming season if Cousins were to be traded. BTW - I still believe that they can retain Cousins for the long term - it will just likely take a lot more money (& it will be totally the fault of the Redskins FO).

 

[SoCalWizFan]

so why don't you insult Riddick like you did me? Riddick and I said the same exact thing. Riddick is a former personnel man plus was in consideration for NFL GM jobs. So this doesnt matter to you? You just take this has a grain of salt? This proves how my viewpoints are right no with EXPEINCED NFL people.

OK - you are right, you are right, you are right. Happy?

Get over it already.

 

[deanpet21]

OK - you are right, you are right, you are right. Happy?

Get over it already.

that message wasn't directed at you. It was directed at jy ,gk,skinsdad, and shark. All those who said that vt and I were way off on this and used insults to try to back their point.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

BTW - Dean - you should go to Redskins training camp in a few weeks & wear a shirt w/ this logo while you are there:

 

[deanpet21]

BTW - Dean - you should go to Redskins training camp in a few weeks & wear a shirt w/ this logo while you are there:


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wow. still don't get it.

 

[Niner Outlaw]

Like the video said. If he wanted to stay here long term he would have countered. Simple as that.

If the Skins wanted him long term, they would've made a serious offer.

I wouldn't want to stay long term on a team that wouldn't commit to me long term.

Can you blame Cousins if he feels the same way?

 

[Sharkinva]

that message wasn't directed at you. It was directed at jy ,gk,skinsdad, and shark. All those who said that vt and I were way off on this and used insults to try to back their point.

OK First Dean, dont lump me in there as using insults. I tend to try and avoid name calling. Yes I may question your sanity at times, and say that what you have said was Dumb, but I was not implying that you were dumb, an asshat or any other such thing.

Secondly, you have always approached this from a we need to get rid of Cousins (unless he wants to work for cheap, and even then we should deal him). So you do tend to make assumptions and put them out there as indisputable fact. Then get your nuts all twisted when people say, prove it. Your general reply is.. I dont have to prove it, I just know Im right and tell us how we need to admit it.

Now as it stands the only FACTS we have are..

1. the Redskins lowballed Kirk again
2. Bruce has tried to shift the blame onto Cousins
3. The odds are pretty high that we lose Cousins after this season
4. If we dont lose him, it will probably mean we paid alot more for him than we could have

 

[Niner Outlaw]

FIRE BROSE ALLEN!

Got to admit that Bryce Alan really botched this Cousins thing.

Can someone explain to me why we haven't traded Kirk yet? Its obvious this is not going to work out so why not get something now instead of losing him completely for a hopeful 3rd rounder in the future.

I am not understanding this logic. If he isn't the guy then trade him. What good is going to be accomplished by keeping him on the roster. I understand its a win now league but this situation is get worse each week. I like Kirk but even I can see that he doesn't want to be here.

The deadline for signing franchise players to LTDs has already passed. Any team the Skins traded him to wouldn't be able to sign him to a LTD until after the season. No team is going to risk trading away serious value without a LTD in place.

If the Skins were gonna trade him for value, this offseason (Feb/Mar 2017) was their best shot, but Cousins essentially controlled where he could be traded to, and there is no way Snider would ok trading him to Shanny's team.

I am also getting sick of the media beat us up and down. I love how San Fransico is being potrayed as an amazing franchise when they are nothing but a dumpster fire and I am going to enjoy watching them be the laughing stock of the league.

The beating ya'll are getting in the media is deserved. It's reminds we Niner fans of the way the media correctly destroyed our owner and GM when we inexplicably fired our wildly successful HC. No one is calling the Niners "an amazing franchise"...we're in yr 1 or 2 of a full rebuild...we're on our 3rd HC in 3 years...we'll stink for at least 2 seasons.

 

[skinz2winz]

Think about that for a moment, if that's all that they have been offering, what else could it be other than "fair" from their perspective? (Not mine) BTW: There is absolutely NO market value to speak of, the tag numbers are what has been collectively bargained for. The "market" is set by these privately held organizations and what they are willing to pay for supposed talent. There would be no need to NEGOTIATE if the tag numbers set the market. There is no proof to the contrary that now what's being called a "lowball" offer is exactly what the organization believes his worth to them is. They ONLY pay the tag amounts because the have to in order to keep him around long enough to convince him to sign for what's being offered. Are they wrong? from my perspective YEP!!, from their perspective, NOPE!!

Believe it or not, after careful consideration dating back to 2015, there is ONLY one reason why the team has made these so-called "lowball" offers and that is because, they've placed a value on Kirk in the Gruden system.

But according to Kirk's camp, the tag value is a "starting point" in his camp's negotiations.

 

[deanpet21]

OK First Dean, dont lump me in there as using insults. I tend to try and avoid name calling. Yes I may question your sanity at times, and say that what you have said was Dumb, but I was not implying that you were dumb, an asshat or any other such thing.

Secondly, you have always approached this from a we need to get rid of Cousins (unless he wants to work for cheap, and even then we should deal him). So you do tend to make assumptions and put them out there as indisputable fact. Then get your nuts all twisted when people say, prove it. Your general reply is.. I dont have to prove it, I just know Im right and tell us how we need to admit it.

Now as it stands the only FACTS we have are..

1. the Redskins lowballed Kirk again
2. Bruce has tried to shift the blame onto Cousins
3. The odds are pretty high that we lose Cousins after this season
4. If we dont lose him, it will probably mean we paid alot more for him than we could have

Im fine with your first paragraph. This video is proof that my opinion holds water in this on going conversation. I have a proven NFL front office professional backing me up here. He said the same thing I said. Why didn't KC counter? When I said this on the board I got replies from a lot of people saying I was anti KC and I didnt know what I was talking about.

 

[skinsdad62]

step by step he is improving . i dont see that not continuing

soon TC will start and i will table the the KC talk and give colt and suds a good look over

 

[j_y19]

so why don't you insult Riddick like you did me? Riddick and I said the same exact thing. Riddick is a former personnel man plus was in consideration for NFL GM jobs. So this doesnt matter to you? You just take this has a grain of salt? This proves how my viewpoints are right no with EXPEINCED NFL people.

For every Riddick you can produce, I can produce 5 others who would disagree. You have proved it in your mind only.