Not just size and strength but also gender. No disrespect to women but them the facts
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Cmon UK dont get me killed
So you agree that there comes a time in which size and strength make training irrelevant.
That's good. Now you seem to think that doesn't apply in this situation and that's fine. I disagree but I can understand your point.
Not just size and strength but also gender. No disrespect to women but them the facts
Let's face it, there's a reason domestic violence is so one sided in real life.
There's also a reason why pretty much all professional fighting organizations break down into weight classes.
Is it safe to say at this point Leroy Brown is just trolling?
Sorry Bro, lol. There are a lot of folks out there who believe the same things Leroy is saying. What happens at most gyms where there are women fighters, is the guys will roll with them and LET the women pull their moves, because it is give and take. No different than Heavyweight men rolling with lightweight s or welterweights, they could simply hold them down, but that's not how you get better. Same with sparring, the men wear 16's while women wear 12 ounce gloves, and the guys punch no more than 40-50%. Now, a lot of the girls or their families will run to Facebook and talk about how they "tapped out" guys ar the gym, but give and take isn't real. There are plenty of videos of Ronda herself rolling with men, going as hard as she can, while the guy is just playing, spending more energy making sure he doesn't accidentally hurt her. Could Ronda defend herself against a 150 LB untrained man? Yeah, she could defend herself. Could she defend herself against a 210 LB world class male athlete? Not a chance in Hell
Ray Rice would have strength. That's it! Rhonda could just wait for a mistake and there you have it. Have people already forgot Royce Gracie in early UFC? He was fighting against huge opponents who were actually trained in something.
My money would be on Ronda easy!
BUT WAIT, HE'S A HEAVIER MAN, DAMMIT!!! WHO PLAYZ DA FOOZEBALL!!!!
Seriously man...you're right. Unless Rice connects flush with a lucky first shot, all Rousey does is wait for an opening. Seeing how just about any position is an opening when it comes to a professional fighter against an untrained person, she would be hell on wheels for Rice.
Ray Rice would have strength. That's it! Rhonda could just wait for a mistake and there you have it. Have people already forgot Royce Gracie in early UFC? He was fighting against huge opponents who were actually trained in something.
My money would be on Ronda easy!
Mistake? She kicks him he grabs her its all over. The gym I workout ( lift and cardio, not fighting) there is an MMA guy who was 6-0 campbell is his last name , the owner of the gym knew I used to wrestle back in late 70's, early 80's and asked me to roll on mat with him. Guy was prob 160 lbs and I'm 255. He tried pulling all these arm bar moves, leg locks etc and I got out easy and kept pinning his ass. Obviously if it was real fight, I would have punched him in face, once he was down.
Rice has 275 LBs tackling him all game long and he is gonna be worried about 125 broad get real
Leroy if your a female please dont take offense but your gender is no match esp for a pro football player, unless maybe a kicker/punter
Hey some punters are pretty big dudes.
I don't think it is impossible for Ray to win. I just think his advantages aren't enough. Ray wouldn't be easy to take down either but that's where the Judo would be huge for Ronda. Likely the only way she could get him down but the key would be she would HAVE to get him down to win. On the ground, most men wouldn't likely do too well no matter the gender.
Mistake? She kicks him he grabs her its all over. The gym I workout ( lift and cardio, not fighting) there is an MMA guy who was 6-0 campbell is his last name , the owner of the gym knew I used to wrestle back in late 70's, early 80's and asked me to roll on mat with him. Guy was prob 160 lbs and I'm 255. He tried pulling all these arm bar moves, leg locks etc and I got out easy and kept pinning his ass. Obviously if it was real fight, I would have punched him in face, once he was down.
Rice has 275 LBs tackling him all game long and he is gonna be worried about 125 broad get real
Leroy if your a female please dont take offense but your gender is no match esp for a pro football player, unless maybe a kicker/punter
I see what you are saying and that very well could be the case? The "mistake" I was referring to was more of a missed punch that creates an opening to a choke or throw? Judo especially doesn't see size as much as other MA's but I basically just see Ronda as a smaller MMA trained guy fighting Ray Rice. If Ray were the winner, he would have to win by KO and I don't think it would be as easy as some think. Just my opinion. Brock Lesner lost to Mir with an ankle lock. Size is a big deal but it doesn't decide everything. I am starting to wish this fight would really happen just to see how things fall.
If you were talking about say 160-170 lb trained male fighter, I can understand your thinking. How is she gonna choke out Rice? I wrestled for 4 years in HS and won states 2 yrs and place 2nd in NE tourny. I wasnt the most finesse guy or had the knowledge and moves under my belt. Frankly I would out muscle guys and get out of their moves, leg locks were a lit tougher or so were double chicken wings. Half nelsons not so much, and of course full ones were illegal .
No mind you there was no MMA back then and judo wasnt talked about, so I dont follow. The big thing back then was who would win between a boxer, karate guy and wrestler. And most times the wrestler would win, unless he gets knocked the fuck out with a punch or kick, but usually they do a double leg take down, get the karate guy or boxer down and have to be strong enough to keep them down
I see what you are saying and that very well could be the case? The "mistake" I was referring to was more of a missed punch that creates an opening to a choke or throw? Judo especially doesn't see size as much as other MA's but I basically just see Ronda as a smaller MMA trained guy fighting Ray Rice. If Ray were the winner, he would have to win by KO and I don't think it would be as easy as some think. Just my opinion. Brock Lesner lost to Mir with an ankle lock. Size is a big deal but it doesn't decide everything. I am starting to wish this fight would really happen just to see how things fall.