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cdumler7

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You do realize they have been saying this about the Pats for more than 10 years now? And every year they seem to end up with who they want without issue and every year they seem to not end up in cap hell.

Some of you Pats fans are having some reading comprehension issues. I'm not saying the Patriots are in Cap Hell at all. They are great at manipulating the Cap and not getting themselves in too much trouble. part of that is because Brady is so freaking nice to that franchise with his cap hit being so low it gives them a lot of leeway.

Now I am saying though that some of the decisions of last year do affect this year a bit. Such as that $5 million in just dead money means anything you sign Revis to such as say $12 million a year actually means really his cap hit is $17 million for this upcoming season. Doesn't kill them to be able to sign everybody but it does make things a bit trickier compared to if they had that $5 million to work with. Really the Pats like all good teams that keep themselves out of Cap Hell know that you can only sign a few players to big signing bonuses that could get the team in trouble say if that player didn't work out. They are good at keeping most contracts up front and evening out the Cap Hits or at least making sure they don't have all the big cap hits come due all in the same season. The worst teams in the league find themselves in those situations like we saw with the Raiders a few seasons back where they had something like $50 million in dead money or the same for the Steelers, Cowboys, and Saints. They haven't completely screwed themselves but they have made it very difficult to especially sign the depth players that make championship caliber teams what they are.
 

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The cap is crap.:nod:

There are so many ways to handle it only a team run by idiots would fall into a cap trap.




http://www.********.com/salary-cap/?p=1373

With that though you are banking on some players being willing to take pay cuts like Mayo, Wilfork, and others. If you look in a given season that doesn't happen very often. Players get screwed in the NFL because contracts are not fully guaranteed like that of in the NBA so players usually fight pretty darn hard to not have to renegotiate or especially take a pay cut. See this is more sports writers and fans dreaming this stuff up. In reality the NFL is not like Madden the video game.
 

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With that though you are banking on some players being willing to take pay cuts like Mayo, Wilfork, and others. If you look in a given season that doesn't happen very often. Players get screwed in the NFL because contracts are not fully guaranteed like that of in the NBA so players usually fight pretty darn hard to not have to renegotiate or especially take a pay cut. See this is more sports writers and fans dreaming this stuff up. In reality the NFL is not like Madden the video game.

No what I'm pointing out is that the cap story is overrated and will amount to nothing for the most part in the grand plan for the 2015 season. There are more than enough ways to make adjustments to have the cap space needed for the players they actually want.
 

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With that though you are banking on some players being willing to take pay cuts like Mayo, Wilfork, and others. If you look in a given season that doesn't happen very often. Players get screwed in the NFL because contracts are not fully guaranteed like that of in the NBA so players usually fight pretty darn hard to not have to renegotiate or especially take a pay cut. See this is more sports writers and fans dreaming this stuff up. In reality the NFL is not like Madden the video game.

Now thats Funny In Mlb its the players doing the screwing cause they get paid no matter what:suds:
 

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Now thats Funny In Mlb its the players doing the screwing cause they get paid no matter what:suds:

Depends when the contract is given out and to whom. Longoria probably is kicking himself right now; Salvador Perez too, but that's a topic for a different board, I think.
 

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Romo's 27m this year does limit the things you can do in free agency and is the reason you can't have both dez and murray. Will be interesting to see how it all shakes out for them. They were on the verge of big things last year. Can they reload around that huge nearly 20% of cap space salary of Romo's?

Who says we can't do both? THere is room to get both, and could do so without much of a restructure from Tony.
 

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No what I'm pointing out is that the cap story is overrated and will amount to nothing for the most part in the grand plan for the 2015 season. There are more than enough ways to make adjustments to have the cap space needed for the players they actually want.

You are saying exactly what the article is saying yet you keep saying the article is stupid...So does that mean you are stupid? Sorry don't mean for that to come off harsh but the article is not just some guy who looked at upcoming contracts for every team took the top-5 worst and said "All these teams are screwed for this upcoming season." He broke it down to show how these teams are not in as much trouble as what the Cap might suggest.

Again most of us have said yes you can manipulate the cap but you have to be careful in how you go about it. There are ways where you can get yourself in trouble like we saw with the Raiders a few years ago where essentially they played with $50 million less than every other team in the league and had a year where they just had the hit the reset button. They played with probably one of the least talented teams in the last 10 years (although still won a few games) but had to do that just to get themselves back to being competitive. They had kicked the can to the edge and had nowhere to go but down.

Now with the Pats they are not in any kind of trouble. They can cut a couple of guys to help resign a couple of the key guys back but most likely will lose some of the depth that they have had from this past season. Seahawks experienced that this year where they lost some of the depth guys and didn't think much of it until the Super Bowl where some of those depth guys could have been huge such as them losing Lane early in the game where a guy like Browner would have been nice to have but had to lose him because of just not having the money. Or when Avril went down with injury in the 4th they didn't have a pass rushing option to really replace him with. The Patriots are a team that will have to depend on this past year's draft and this years draft to replenish the draft. Again this is what the best teams in the league do of using the draft to fill out the roster more so than FA.
 
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